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  • Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

    OTOH, here is a good place not to be right now.

    Although the first thought is: they aren't last?
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      As we all know, France has banned the burqua. But, did they also ban these???

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      • Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

        Good article that maintains what many (most?) FP experts have been saying for a while now (although you wouldn't know it from the Military-intelligence complex' flacks on "news" TV: AQ, while of course always a threat as an enabler of individual actions, has had its back broken.

        The war with al Qaeda is over. It is time to shift to a containment strategy to deal with the remnants of the group and its scattered partners. Any such strategy must involve the empowerment of Muslim societies and the exercise of judicious restraint in the use of force. Western leaders must level with their citizens: there is no absolute security, and the security of the West is organically linked to that of the rest of humanity. People must know that there are limits to the effectiveness of force in international affairs. Terrorism cannot be eradicated with unmanned air attacks or even massive military interventions, both of which are, in any case, costly.

        As for how to deal with recent terrorist plots and homegrown radicalization, there is an urgent need to expedite the withdrawal of Western, particularly American, boots from Muslim territories. For Muslims, the presence of tens of thousands of U.S. and NATO troops in their homeland remains a constant and painful reminder of the European colonial legacy of domination and subjugation. Neither Iraqis nor Afghans view the U.S. military presence as benign and disinterested, nor designed to bring them security, peace, and democracy. Rather, they see a foreign occupation, an intrusive, humiliating violation. Most of the recent bombing plots were blowback against American military tactics and campaigns in Muslim countries. The U.S. government’s own National Intelligence Estimate on “Trends in Global Terrorism” reports that the U.S.-led invasion and occupation of Iraq militarized Muslim opinion, shaped a new generation of jihadis, and generated hundreds of additional terrorist attacks and tens of thousands of civilian casualties. Today the conflicts in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and, to a lesser extent, Somalia have replaced the Iraq occupation as a major source of radicalization, including that of homegrown terrorists.

        Even if the United States withdraws its troops from Iraq and Afghanistan in the next few years, as President Obama has pledged, the U.S. military footprint in the greater Middle East would still be substantial. At the very moment Obama announced “the end of our combat mission in Iraq,” the Pentagon dug deeper in the Middle East, expanding and upgrading military bases and other facilities in Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, Oman, and Saudi Arabia. This formidable, long-term military presence in the countries surrounding Iraq and Iran is likely to inflame anti-American sentiment.

        Threats do exist in Yemen and Pakistan, and the United States, together with the international community, can and should assist those countries in rebuilding their institutions and addressing the threats. But the United States must resist the temptation to turn the struggle into a war between al Qaeda and the West. Neither Iraqi nor Yemeni al Qaeda factions can survive a direct confrontation with their own societies and governments. They are well aware that such a confrontation would trigger public backlash and ultimately doom them. Only taking up the anti-Western mantle can save them, and it behooves the United States and its allies not to give them a chance.

        The critical factor in determining the outcome of the contest between al Qaeda operators and local governments is the degree of legitimacy the latter possess in the eyes of their Muslim populations. Legitimacy requires the establishment of representative and responsive governments and open political systems where grievances can be publicly aired. Without this, pro-Western Muslim regimes are still likely to win most battles against terrorists simply by force, but there will always be a small, disgruntled constituency that will support terrorists and extremists.

        Tyranny, dismal social conditions, and the absence of hope provide the fuel that powers radical, absolutist ideologies in the Muslim world. It is not enough to focus on the violent ideology of al Qaeda without devoting sufficient attention to the social conditions that gave rise to it. Only if the Arab revolutions manage to fill the gap of legitimate political authority will al Qaeda finally be allowed to die.
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        • Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          Good article that maintains what many (most?) FP experts have been saying for a while now (although you wouldn't know it from the Military-intelligence complex' flacks on "news" TV: AQ, while of course always a threat as an enabler of individual actions, has had its back broken.
          They made a dreadful mistake by flowing into Iraq to confront the "great Satan." Thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of 'em paid for that mistake with their lives. So called "home grown" terrorists concern me. Especially killers like "Dr. Hassan." How can anyone explain how a field grade officer in the United States Army, a doctor, a psychiatrist, who owes all he is in life to America and the army, wakes up one day and decides he really needs to murder some unarmed GI's? If a man like Hassan can be influenced to kill by the blandishments of Muslim fanatacism, who is immune? And who is safe?
          Last edited by Old Pio; 09-13-2011, 09:07 PM.
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            Originally posted by joecct View Post
            Personally, I like my nuns looking like nuns and not in "civvies"
            Not to mention problems with lift.

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            • Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

              Looks like Iran finally got around to releasing our spies.
              I wish I am able to live long enough to do all the things I was attributed to.

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                Because when the government criminalizes having 4000 pounds of explosives, only criminals will have 4000 pounds of explosives

                TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. — Federal authorities say a Michigan man bought and hid more than 4,000 pounds of explosives with enough potential firepower to equal the Oklahoma City bombing and told an undercover informant that “when the government takes over, we will be mercenaries.”

                John Francis Lechner, 64, was arrested last week on a charge of possessing explosives while facing other charges and ordered held following a U.S. District Court hearing Monday. His attorney said Lechner, a builder and farmer from Sault Ste. Marie in the Upper Peninsula, obtained the materials years ago for construction projects.

                “He’s not a terrorist, he’s not a mercenary, he’s not some freedom fighter,” defense attorney Charles Malette told The Associated Press on Tuesday. “He intended no type of violence, pro- or anti-government. The man is not like that.”
                I guess he just had two tons of explosives sitting around because he thought it looked pretty.

                In an affidavit dealing with the federal charges, ATF agent Timothy DeClaire said an informant told the Chippewa County Sheriff’s Department that Lechner asked for help moving the explosive mixture from Sault Ste. Marie and hiding it in Dafter, a village a few miles away. The informant wore a recording device while performing the task Sept. 20. The affidavit said a sheriff’s detective listened to the recording and heard Lechner’s remark about “mercenaries.”

                DeClaire said he obtained a search warrant the same day and found 83 bags of the mixture, each weighing about 50 pounds. The combined weight was about 4,150 pounds. The next day, he found a supply of explosive boosters, detonating cord and blasting caps at Lechner’s mother’s nearby home. Another box of blasting caps was recovered in Sault Ste. Marie, he said.
                And the detonating cord was just because he ran out of bungee and needed something to tie sticks together. The blasting caps and explosive boosters were just for fun...he may be 64 but he's just a kid at heart.

                During the hearing, U.S. Magistrate Judge Timothy Greeley asked how big an explosion could result from detonating the materials.

                “The quantity we’re talking about would be at least that of an Oklahoma City bombing or more,” DeClaire replied.
                Or he wanted to make a massive hole in the ground where a government building used to be...

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                • Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

                  Not saying he's guilty or not, but Uncle Sam could go after farmers who have a lot of ammonium nitrate fertilizer - saying that they possess bomb making materials.
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                  • Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

                    Originally posted by joecct View Post
                    Not saying he's guilty or not, but Uncle Sam could go after farmers who have a lot of ammonium nitrate fertilizer - saying that they possess bomb making materials.
                    Of course. It's just a coincidence that a guy has two tons of explosives and detonating cord, has been sued numerous times and wanted help hiding the stuff. And Brutus was an honorable man.
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                      Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                      Of course. It's just a coincidence that a guy has two tons of explosives and detonating cord, has been sued numerous times and wanted help hiding the stuff. And Brutus was an honorable man.
                      He's a fan of Falling Skies?????
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                        Federal prosecutors said Wednesday that a 26-year-old Ashland, Mass., physicist planned to pack remote-controlled aircraft with C-4 plastic explosives and use them to blow up the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol.

                        Rezwan Ferdaus was charged with attempting to provide material support and resources to a foreign terrorist organization. That organization was al Qaeda, prosecutors said.

                        Ferdaus is a U.S. citizen and was graduated from Northeastern University .

                        U.S. Attorney for Massachusetts Carmen Ortiz's office said the public was never in danger because the explosives Ferdaus sought to use never left the FBI's control.
                        He was probably using it for farming

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                        • Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

                          Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                          And Brutus was an honorable man.
                          ...misunderstood Brutus.
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                            "unmarried with no children"

                            You don't say?
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                              Maybe the guy in Ashland had an accomplice
                              ??
                              http://mobile.washingtonpost.com/rss...d=961405&spf=1
                              Last edited by joecct; 09-29-2011, 12:26 AM.
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                                Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                                Terrorists tend to be recruited from the USCHO demographic.
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