The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker

[Kepler]

Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker

But it's a matter of "principle."

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[bronconick]

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[ScoobyDoo]

Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker

Well, we've reached the debt ceiling. We're now staving off default through accounting tricks alone (like not funding federal pension plans, no longer lending to states, etc.).

But I'm sure somehow this isn't the fault of the wingnuts.

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Awesome. Keep it going righties.

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Here's the president

The full consequences of a default — or even the serious prospect of default — by the United States are impossible to predict and awesome to contemplate. Denigration of the full faith and credit of the United States would have substantial effects on the domestic financial markets and the value of the dollar in exchange markets. The Nation can ill afford to allow such a result. The risks, the costs, the disruptions, and the incalculable damage lead me to but one conclusion: the Congress must pass this legislation.

[unofan]

Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker

Well, we've reached the debt ceiling. We're now staving off default through accounting tricks alone (like not funding federal pension plans, no longer lending to states, etc.).

But I'm sure somehow this isn't the fault of the wingnuts.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...imminently.php

[Kepler]

Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker

Let's face it, women are experts at bending reality to fit their needs.

"Truth is what works." -- William James

[Bakunin]

Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker

It all boils down to the woman's situation and psyche. If she wants children, she'll view the pregnancy as a baby, regardless of how early or late in the pregnancy it is when she becomes aware of it. If she doesn't want children under any circumstances, then she's not going to view it as a baby.

Let's face it, women are experts at bending reality to fit their needs.

[leswp1]

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You really think that if they presented adoption as a good, viable option to all the women coming in the door, even those who lean toward abortion, that only one in 400 would go toward adoption? Yes, as noted previously, you have a very active imagination, or else are simply avoiding inconvenient truths.

But this is coming from a guy who is advocating forcing people to be told things in church as somehow being equivalent to people freely accepting the offer of an ultrasound.

As someone who counsels on this I can tell you that most people walk in my office already having an opinion before I discuss all the options. I always discuss all the options. I have very little positive response to adoption regardless of how much I talk about it as an option and I do, at length. People either view the pregnancy as a baby and therefore theirs, or they view it as not a baby yet and want an abortion. I think that if you view it as a baby it is very hard to understand someone not doing so but there are people who do not see it that way.

Strikingly even those who tell me they previously would have never considered abortion will chose it over adoption, even when presented with contact info regarding agencies. This has always baffled me but in my experience remains a constant. It seems like if they can't have the baby/deal with the pregnancy then it can't exsist.

[amherstblackbear]

Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker

ftfy.

Your point is taken. But you have to remember that with a divided Congress and a Democratic president, conservatives have no real way to advance an agenda of their own except at the state level. There are plenty of examples. So I wouldn't brush it aside as being "just TX" quite so quickly.

[amherstblackbear]

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I get the name "planned parenthood" - you want to advertise the fact that you provide a wide range of services. But to provide abortion services under the PP banner - I can also see how that rankles people. It makes abortion seem like just another form of contraception. To some folks, I'm sure it is. But I know a lot of pro-choice folks who blanch at talk like that. Maybe PP needs to spin off the more controversial procedures to a new subsidiary.

As ever, The Oatmeal has the answer.

(link is SFW, but contains humor of questionable taste )

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Hedge Funder John Paulson Earns More Hourly Than Most Americans Do In A Lifetime And Pays A Lower Tax Rate

If your job paid $50,000 a year and you stayed at it for 47 years, your tally for a lifetime of work would be $2.4 million. Not bad — but hedge fund hustler John Paulson pulled down that much last year.

Most of us would consider an annual income of $2.4 million to be a windfall, but it didn’t take Paulson a full 12 months of work to pocket his windfall — or one month, a week, or even a day. That’s how much he made an hour. Yes, Paulson could’ve worked one single hour in 2010 and hauled off a paycheck equal to what a typical household gets for a lifetime of work.

He must be creating a lot of jobs.

[joecct]

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Do you go to a car wash to get a hamburger? If I was in a position to make that decision, I would be inclined to seek the services of an organization that is well known for adoption services. When I needed brain surgery I went to a neurologist, not an OB/GYN.

New marketing idea - Jiffy Lube attached to a McDonalds. So while you wait to get a lube job, you can get a quick bite to eat. Plus the old oil can be recycled into the other store....

[Bakunin]

Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker

No one is pro-abortion.

Wrong!

Kepler, it counts if it's a Super Target.

[Kepler]

Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker

There are so few people who go to the supermarket to buy shoes.

{nervous} Does Target count? {/nervous}

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Yah, it's pretty ****ing of PP that people don't even think they'd consider trying to put babies up for adoption before aborting them. Good catch.

Do you go to a car wash to get a hamburger? If I was in a position to make that decision, I would be inclined to seek the services of an organization that is well known for adoption services. When I needed brain surgery I went to a neurologist, not an OB/GYN.