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  • #61
    Originally posted by BadgerPete View Post
    . Meh, I don't know why it wouldn't be expected. Only two schools have won a title since 2018. We aren't going to go portal hunting, and quite frankly there was nobody in the portal this year I would have penciled in as a Top 6 (maybe Top 9 depending on if you're as high on McCarthy and Scannell as I am) Forward or Top 4 D for us. Reality is if you're in the portal and you want minutes you ain't getting them in Madison.
    As many have pointed out, this is the last year of the Golden Portal anyway. I think that's why losing that last game really bothers me, because we had a chance to show the golden portal wasn't going to save them, but it did. I think whoever they get this season will not match the quality that they got last season. That being said, we lost a lot, the rodents lost hardly anybody (which nobody's talking about) and they are doing what they do to reload, thought you maybe a lesser extent. I'd sleep a lot better at night knowing O'Brien's coming back.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

      I'd sleep a lot better at night knowing O'Brien's coming back.
      Well, good news then. Both O'Brien and Wheeler will be coming back.
      "Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed" --- Friedrich Nietzche

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      • #63
        Originally posted by wheel snipe celly View Post

        Well, good news then. Both O'Brien and Wheeler will be coming back.
        So then, which forward on the roster is converting to play D?

        :-)

        Seriously, YAHOOOO!!!

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        • #64
          Originally posted by wheel snipe celly View Post

          Well, good news then. Both O'Brien and Wheeler will be coming back.
          Sweet! Natty, here we come!

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          • #65
            Originally posted by wheel snipe celly View Post
            Well, good news then. Both O'Brien and Wheeler will be coming back.
            Holy $@&#!!! R u serious!? I just pead myself.
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            Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
            "Baggot says Hughes and Rockwood are centering the top two lines...
            Timothy A --> Great hockey mind... Or Greatest hockey mind?!?"

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            • #66
              Can (K) Gorbatenko use that big stick on defense? (Again) third goalie options?

              A way out of the portal dilemma is for players to form a union. Madison is a good place to start. Hilary Knight is a good role model.

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              • #67
                Looking at the two-year plan, they're really going to have to look at getting a pair of one-and-dones out of the transfer portal for depth. With Mackenzie Jones and Rachel Gorbatenko coming in, that's 8 D on the roster in 25-26 (even with Harvey likely taking a few weeks off for the Olympics). With Stewart coming in, that's 3 G for 25-26.

                As we've mentioned, it's a tepid portal this year. Particularly for the one-and-dones.

                At D, honestly the best option would be for Sophie Helgeson to return. Sidney Fess from BC or Bella Parento from Vermont had decent numbers last year. Savannah Popick from St. Anselm could be a dark horse. And Su Yeon Eom would just be fun because she played for the Korean National Team and I like a dash of international flavor.

                At G, with the scuttlebutt being that Osborne has withdrawn from the portal (and her being unlikely to transfer to be second fiddle anyway), either Tindra Holm from LIU or Jorden Mattison from Maine would be quality depth behind MacNaughton. Mattison played for the same juniors program that produced incoming Badger Emma Venusio

                That said, going into a season hoping to find a 6th/7th D and a backup goalie is a heck of a problem to have.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by BadgerPete View Post
                  Looking at the two-year plan, they're really going to have to look at getting a pair of one-and-dones out of the transfer portal for depth. With Mackenzie Jones and Rachel Gorbatenko coming in, that's 8 D on the roster in 25-26 (even with Harvey likely taking a few weeks off for the Olympics). With Stewart coming in, that's 3 G for 25-26.

                  As we've mentioned, it's a tepid portal this year. Particularly for the one-and-dones.

                  At D, honestly the best option would be for Sophie Helgeson to return. Sidney Fess from BC or Bella Parento from Vermont had decent numbers last year. Savannah Popick from St. Anselm could be a dark horse. And Su Yeon Eom would just be fun because she played for the Korean National Team and I like a dash of international flavor.

                  At G, with the scuttlebutt being that Osborne has withdrawn from the portal (and her being unlikely to transfer to be second fiddle anyway), either Tindra Holm from LIU or Jorden Mattison from Maine would be quality depth behind MacNaughton. Mattison played for the same juniors program that produced incoming Badger Emma Venusio

                  That said, going into a season hoping to find a 6th/7th D and a backup goalie is a heck of a problem to have.
                  US and Canadian players don't "take a few weeks off" for the Olympics; they take the entire year to be "centralized" with the national team. Count on Harvey (and probably Simms and Edwards and Eden) being gone for the entire 2025-26 season.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by robertearle View Post

                    US and Canadian players don't "take a few weeks off" for the Olympics; they take the entire year to be "centralized" with the national team. Count on Harvey (and probably Simms and Edwards and Eden) being gone for the entire 2025-26 season.
                    The PWHL and US Hockey have both said there will be no big centralization this coming Olympic year. The PWHL isn't losing all those players for the entire season.

                    "But there will also be changes, including a centralization for Olympic years, including the upcoming 2026 Games in Italy that will not span months. As Hefford says, she expects federations around the globe to begin working around the PWHL.

                    "For the Olympic year, there won't be a traditional centralization like we've seen in the past," she said. "My expectation is that federations around the world will work around the PHWL's season with the exception of the international breaks that we do not schedule games during, centralization will certainly look different than it's looked in the past.""
                    Last edited by BadgerPete; 04-09-2024, 08:32 PM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by BadgerPete View Post

                      The PWHL and US Hockey have both said there will be no big centralization this coming Olympic year. The PWHL isn't losing all those players for the entire season.

                      "But there will also be changes, including a centralization for Olympic years, including the upcoming 2026 Games in Italy that will not span months. As Hefford says, she expects federations around the globe to begin working around the PWHL.

                      "For the Olympic year, there won't be a traditional centralization like we've seen in the past," she said. "My expectation is that federations around the world will work around the PHWL's season with the exception of the international breaks that we do not schedule games during, centralization will certainly look different than it's looked in the past.""
                      Well, that will be "interesting".

                      What do you supposed the NCAA will do? The number of teams affected will be minimal, but the teams that are affected, like Wisconsin, may well be greatly affected. The Olympics themselves take the better part of three weeks, any sort of "centralization" goes on top of that; an additional three weeks? More? Is Wisconsin forced to play six weeks handicapped? Does Wisconsin choose to play six weeks handicapped. Does a player choose to lose six weeks out of a season that will count against their eligibility? Or take the year off anyway?

                      As I said, interesting...

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by robertearle View Post

                        Well, that will be "interesting".

                        What do you supposed the NCAA will do? The number of teams affected will be minimal, but the teams that are affected, like Wisconsin, may well be greatly affected. The Olympics themselves take the better part of three weeks, any sort of "centralization" goes on top of that; an additional three weeks? More? Is Wisconsin forced to play six weeks handicapped? Does Wisconsin choose to play six weeks handicapped. Does a player choose to lose six weeks out of a season that will count against their eligibility? Or take the year off anyway?

                        As I said, interesting...
                        I don't see the NCAA doing anything. 14 schools lost a player for three weeks for the 2022 Olympics, 7 of those lost more than one. It's only going to increase with the influx of international players over the last four years. Wisconsin could/will lose five (Sapovalivova, Eden, Harvey, Simms, and Edwards) and Minnesota will lose a couple (definitely Bouveng and Murphy) and Ohio State could lose a couple (Dunne and Jungaker) but the NCAA isn't going to take an international break in a niche sport over something that affects maybe 50 of the ~775 Division I women's college hockey players for a couple of weeks. If anything it's more if the WCHA would tweak something in their schedule.

                        Looking at Wisconsin, taking out the probable Olympians, we'd have the following lineup for the Olympic weeks:
                        F - Picard, Enright, Vasseur, Hall, K. Gorbatenko, McCarthy, Scannell, Halverson, Pieckenhagen, N. Gorbatenko
                        D - Jungels, Potter, Murphy, Venusio, Bickett, Jones, R. Gorbatenko
                        G - MacNaughton, Stewart, Baker

                        The rest of the NCAA are getting out the tiny violins for us having to play 6 games with that lineup.

                        The early scuttle butt is that they will use the "off-weeks" in November and December that were usually used for the Rivalry Series for a pair of camps before the Olympics. The players would then go to the Olympics which would affect the weekends of Feb 6/7, Feb 13/14, Feb 20/21.

                        I don't see players taking the year off if its only those three weeks because what else would they do? The vast majority of other potential players will be playing in the PWHL, and I can't see USA Hockey being happy with the players not having anything close to meaningful game reps for an entire season prior to the Olympics. (The insane speed of the USA-Canada game on Monday night showed how much of a difference the ability for the players to stay in game shape meant.)

                        This is also going to show the strength of the PWHL as they go into year three. It's quite possible that Lacey Eden (and Murphy for UM) would forgo the COVID year to play in the PWHL, where the league will take a break that coincide with the Olympics and associated activities. I can't see the players who haven't graduated yet going that route unless the league has really found a gear that we haven't seen yet in terms of salaries and infrastructure.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by BadgerPete View Post
                          Looking at Wisconsin, taking out the probable Olympians, we'd have the following lineup for the Olympic weeks:
                          F - Picard, Enright, Vasseur, Hall, K. Gorbatenko, McCarthy, Scannell, Halverson, Pieckenhagen, N. Gorbatenko
                          D - Jungels, Potter, Murphy, Venusio, Bickett, Jones, R. Gorbatenko
                          G - MacNaughton, Stewart, Baker

                          The rest of the NCAA are getting out the tiny violins for us having to play 6 games with that lineup.
                          Wow this is great. Thanks for posting. The biggest question is if WI losing a bunch of games those 3 weekends will the math knock them out of the ncaa tourney? I wonder what the committee would do in that scenario? Too bad, so sorry, you are out or give them an at large bid.
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                          Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
                          "Baggot says Hughes and Rockwood are centering the top two lines...
                          Timothy A --> Great hockey mind... Or Greatest hockey mind?!?"

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                          • #73
                            Official UWBadgers.com article on Grace Bickett: https://uwbadgers.com/news/2024/4/10...25-season.aspx

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by BadgerPete View Post

                              I don't see the NCAA doing anything. 14 schools lost a player for three weeks for the 2022 Olympics, 7 of those lost more than one. It's only going to increase with the influx of international players over the last four years. Wisconsin could/will lose five (Sapovalivova, Eden, Harvey, Simms, and Edwards) and Minnesota will lose a couple (definitely Bouveng and Murphy) and Ohio State could lose a couple (Dunne and Jungaker) but the NCAA isn't going to take an international break in a niche sport over something that affects maybe 50 of the ~775 Division I women's college hockey players for a couple of weeks. If anything it's more if the WCHA would tweak something in their schedule.

                              Looking at Wisconsin, taking out the probable Olympians, we'd have the following lineup for the Olympic weeks:
                              F - Picard, Enright, Vasseur, Hall, K. Gorbatenko, McCarthy, Scannell, Halverson, Pieckenhagen, N. Gorbatenko
                              D - Jungels, Potter, Murphy, Venusio, Bickett, Jones, R. Gorbatenko
                              G - MacNaughton, Stewart, Baker

                              The rest of the NCAA are getting out the tiny violins for us having to play 6 games with that lineup.

                              The early scuttle butt is that they will use the "off-weeks" in November and December that were usually used for the Rivalry Series for a pair of camps before the Olympics. The players would then go to the Olympics which would affect the weekends of Feb 6/7, Feb 13/14, Feb 20/21.

                              I don't see players taking the year off if its only those three weeks because what else would they do? The vast majority of other potential players will be playing in the PWHL, and I can't see USA Hockey being happy with the players not having anything close to meaningful game reps for an entire season prior to the Olympics. (The insane speed of the USA-Canada game on Monday night showed how much of a difference the ability for the players to stay in game shape meant.)

                              This is also going to show the strength of the PWHL as they go into year three. It's quite possible that Lacey Eden (and Murphy for UM) would forgo the COVID year to play in the PWHL, where the league will take a break that coincide with the Olympics and associated activities. I can't see the players who haven't graduated yet going that route unless the league has really found a gear that we haven't seen yet in terms of salaries and infrastructure.
                              I wouldn't discount the possibility of losing Ava McNaughton to the Olympics as well. She has Team USA experience as a U18, was a 1st team FR All-American, and the 2024 World Championships are evidence that USA hockey isn't afraid to bring college kids into that type of environment. The performance of Edwards, Simms, Harvey etc show the talented youngsters can certainly play on that level.

                              And don't forget, Maddie Rooney was Team USA's goalie at age 20 for the Olympic Gold Medal winning team in 2018.

                              Last edited by Bonzo; 04-10-2024, 04:19 PM.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by BadgerPete View Post
                                ... the NCAA isn't going to take an international break in a niche sport over something that affects maybe 50 of the ~775 Division I women's college hockey players for a couple of weeks. If anything it's more if the WCHA would tweak something in their schedule.
                                Interesting! Also, I agree with the numbers you roughly gave. I think it might be more like ~3% of players, from a higher total of players playing D I, at least if NEWHA is included. But, of course, more would be affected on Wisconsin.

                                Originally posted by BadgerPete View Post
                                ...
                                The early scuttle butt is that they will use the "off-weeks" in November and December that were usually used for the Rivalry Series for a pair of camps before the Olympics. The players would then go to the Olympics which would affect the weekends of Feb 6/7, Feb 13/14, Feb 20/21.
                                Would the WCHA change who its top teams/Olympic-heavy rosters are playing those weekends then, as you mention? Unlike other times of the season, non-conference games may not work unless coordinated across conferences. I think usually those weeks in February include only a bit of weekday, non-conference play like the Beanpot amid conference schedules. If the WCHA were to start conference play a couple weeks early, could it organize some intra-WCHA non-conference/exhibition games in February?

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