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  • Originally posted by BadgerPete View Post

    I presume that they are referring to Payton Holloway. That's not how that happened from, well, an interview with her:

    Holloway originally committed to the University of Wisconsin back in January of 2022. Growing up in Tomah, which is about 100 miles northwest of Madison, it only made sense to commit to the team from her home state.

    But, like many other hockey players in the past two seasons, recruiting plans changed. Holloway was set to join the Badgers in 2022-23, but she decided to reopen her recruitment when she realized there was a long road ahead to get playing time at Wisconsin.

    "With all the fifth years [skaters who used their extra year of eligibility], and with COVID kind of pushing stuff back, I wouldn't have been able to play until like my late sophomore or maybe junior year, and I wanted to play all four years," said Holloway. "So I seeked other options."

    Source: https://www.therinklive.com/high-sch...-headed-to-umd
    She played very sparingly when the Duluth was in Madison. I'm not sure she even saw the ice in the first game. So much for playing 4 years. And with all the injuries turns out she would have had playing time on that fourth to line since they were playing one to two defensemen on that fourth line. She dressed for Duluth in 32 games of the 39 and had 2 assists. She only dressed in one game after March 2nd.
    Last edited by Timothy A; 05-07-2024, 05:48 AM.
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    • Originally posted by robertearle View Post

      No, quite likely there were violations. Just ones that are very hard to prove.
      This is an awful thing to speculate about.


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      • Originally posted by Lindsay View Post

        This is an awful thing to speculate about.

        How far back did you have to go for that post? A month? [added later: I looked it up, March 10th]

        I'm not sure exactly what the immediate context was for it, because that has come up a couple times over the last six weeks or so; but in those contexts, I was responding to HockeyBuckeye and maybe others' characterizations of S-As transferring to Ohio State as being a "done deal" prior to their names having even appeared in the portal.

        Yes, that would be a violation, and a hard one to prove.

        And yes, violations like that would be an awful thing.
        Last edited by robertearle; 05-07-2024, 10:14 AM.

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        • Originally posted by robertearle View Post


          Yes, that would be a violation, and a hard one to prove.

          And yes, violations like that would be an awful thing.
          I do my best to try and be civil to you but when you imply my coach could be breaking rules it really starts to **** me off! You have no right to question her integrity based on your grossly flawed assumptions. You don't see any Ohio State fans speaking ill of MJ or any coach so I'd think Nadine really deserves the same courtesy.

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          • Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View Post

            I do my best to try and be civil to you but when you imply my coach could be breaking rules it really starts to **** me off! You have no right to question her integrity based on your grossly flawed assumptions. You don't see any Ohio State fans speaking ill of MJ or any coach so I'd think Nadine really deserves the same courtesy.
            It is YOUR characterization of "done deals" for S-As not yet even in the portal that gives rise to the implication of NCAA recruiting violations. I have every right to raise the question, based on YOUR characterizations. And if that ****es you off, too bad.
            Last edited by robertearle; 05-07-2024, 11:43 AM.

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            • Originally posted by robertearle View Post
              It is YOUR characterization of "done deals" for S-As not yet even in the portal that gives rise to the implication of NCAA recruiting violations. I have every right to raise the question, based on YOUR characterizations. And if that ****es you off, too bad.
              Um yeah, this is true. A fan who tells us they have inside connections to the program bragging about done deals before the players are even in the portal sure looks like a smoking violation gun to me. Hockeybuckeye, how are we to take this? "Shrugs Shoulders" / "Confused". Are you just BSing us like Sierra did with the Mustang story?
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              Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
              "Baggot says Hughes and Rockwood are centering the top two lines...
              Timothy A --> Great hockey mind... Or Greatest hockey mind?!?"

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              • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

                Um yeah, this is true. A fan who tells us they have inside connections to the program bragging about done deals before the players are even in the portal sure looks like a smoking violation gun to me. Hockeybuckeye, how are we to take this? "Shrugs Shoulders" / "Confused". Are you just BSing us like Sierra did with the Mustang story?
                I've come to the conclusion that hockeybuckeye is totally full of ****, so that is how I take his posts. Like the one where he claimed that coaches get a special secret addendum to the NCAA rule book that nobody else knows about that has a bunch of exceptions to the portal rules.

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                • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

                  Um yeah, this is true. A fan who tells us they have inside connections to the program bragging about done deals before the players are even in the portal sure looks like a smoking violation gun to me. Hockeybuckeye, how are we to take this? "Shrugs Shoulders" / "Confused". Are you just BSing us like Sierra did with the Mustang story?
                  Timothy, trust me it's so worth the wait. I don't recall Hockeybuckeye saying an athletes name? Did he? I belive his comments are because of OSU dominating the transfer portal every single year. A two year old could make the same conclusion that OSU would get all the top players in the portal as they have every year. I understand robertearle is a conspiracy theory guy, but I'm sure it would be BIG news if coach Muzerall was using CIA tactics. Muzerall is just smarter than all the men. It's very entertaining, tho.

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                  • Originally posted by LongGame View Post
                    I've come to the conclusion that hockeybuckeye is totally full of ****, so that is how I take his posts. Like the one where he claimed that coaches get a special secret addendum to the NCAA rule book that nobody else knows about that has a bunch of exceptions to the portal rules.
                    I am 98% there to not reacting to them at all. They are just typically so over the top that that has to be the only explanation. The only other close equivalent poster that I can recall is when BC was good, TTT/Grant was just hyper BC is GOD, but then they blew it every year, so that was a bit funny.
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                    Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
                    "Baggot says Hughes and Rockwood are centering the top two lines...
                    Timothy A --> Great hockey mind... Or Greatest hockey mind?!?"

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                    • Originally posted by Sierra View Post

                      I understand robertearle is a conspiracy theory guy,
                      No.

                      Simply observing HockeyBuckeye make his claims, and pointing out that if they are true, then they would constitute NCAA violations.

                      You can close your eyes to that all you want, that's your choice. But making that observation is not a "conspiracy", it is making an observation.
                      Last edited by robertearle; 05-07-2024, 04:47 PM.

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                      • On the topic at hand, I don't think it has been noted: Josey Dunn going to Lindenwood. Here's hoping she has a healthy year.

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                        • I keep clicking on this thread and IMHO this thread has turned into something I would expect in the Men's Forum. Wish you all would take the name calling and conspiracy theories off line and actually talk about the women in the portal and what the pick ups by the teams and losses by the teams mean. Oh I guess that that would just turn into more bashing between the WCHA fans (Wisco vs OSU) and BC lament their losses and probably no other posts on this thread. LOL.

                          So I will stay away from any name calling and give you the following about Clarkson
                          Clarkson has 3 portal losses of significance
                          Swiderski - from what was posted on the Clarkson Forum did not see eye to eye with the coaching staff the way she was being used. Fair enough, time to feed the Clarkson to OSU defensive pipeline (wink).
                          Frenette and Bogden - was surprised both moved on. Not sure why. I think both could have been major contributors to the offense in their final years (thinking double digit goals and 20-30 points).
                          Hull and Ham did not play as freshmen and so it was time to move on.

                          Clarkson additions
                          Fess and Goffredo from BC have been discussed before in this thread. Should be good pickups
                          Chantler from Quinny should be another good pickup to help with offense

                          The 3 portal losses and forward losses from graduation (Petrie, McQuigge, Lappan and Guay) as well as the graduation of All ECAC Goalie Pasiechnyk are going to make it tough to repeat the 2023-2024 win total unless there are some freshmen forwards that can put the puck in the net and Julia Minotti can repeat her performance in the nets against the top ECAC teams that she had against the lower eschelon teams.
                          Once again Haley Winn and Nicole Gosling on D may end up being the top 2 scorers on the 24-25 edition.

                          That is all folks.
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                          • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

                            Um yeah, this is true. A fan who tells us they have inside connections to the program bragging about done deals before the players are even in the portal sure looks like a smoking violation gun to me. Hockeybuckeye, how are we to take this? "Shrugs Shoulders" / "Confused". Are you just BSing us like Sierra did with the Mustang story?
                            Sierra wasn't BSing you about the Mustang and I'll admit I have in the past jerked robertearle's chain on occasion which you caught when he was too annoying but the things we say that are true you guys just don't believe it.
                            For the dedicated Badger fans on forum I don't understand how you guys aren't connected enough to your program to know things that aren't general knowledge. I even have connections to know behind the scenes things at University of Michigan. That's how I was able to post about their getting a women's team a year before it was publicly announced they were looking into it.
                            I'm considering now of utilizing my connection at Wisconsin for inside info. How would you like that?

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                            • Originally posted by vicb View Post
                              ... and actually talk about the women in the portal and what the pick ups by the teams and losses by the teams mean.
                              The portal window has closed and I was intrigued to see St. Thomas at the top of the list for number of players entering the portal with 9 followed by BU with 8 and Quinnipiac with 7. Anyone have any insight into why so many players entering the portal from those schools? None of them are in the "usual suspect" category of schools with a history of large numbers of players entering the portal.

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                              • Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View Post

                                Sierra wasn't BSing you about the Mustang and I'll admit I have in the past jerked robertearle's chain on occasion which you caught when he was too annoying but the things we say that are true you guys just don't believe it.
                                For the dedicated Badger fans on forum I don't understand how you guys aren't connected enough to your program to know things that aren't general knowledge. I even have connections to know behind the scenes things at University of Michigan. That's how I was able to post about their getting a women's team a year before it was publicly announced they were looking into it.
                                I'm considering now of utilizing my connection at Wisconsin for inside info. How would you like that?
                                I truly don't understand what "connected... to your program" is even supposed to mean. Under what conditions do you imagine this "connection" would take place? I'm gonna go hang out with MJ at LaBahn and he's going to tell me who he's looking at offering next recruiting period? That's utterly absurd.

                                As best I can recall, I have been in a room with Mark Johnson small enough and uncrowded enough to walk over and start a conversation twice in my life: once was a 'celebration' of the 2011 championship, and there were 'only' a couple hundred people in the Nicholas-Johnson Pavilion (while they were signing autographs, I asked Hilary Knight about a reported broken thumb, she said Dr appointment the next day to see if surgery would be needed); the other was a campus house party in 1978 or so, when a friend of mine and I had heard about a party at such-and-such an address, so we went, walked in, saw it wasn't an 'everybody come' kind of party, apologized, and left (and I'm not completely sure MJ was even there, other UW hockey players were). I have never seen the other UW WH coaches outside of LaBahn/Kohl Center in my life. When would I? Under what circumstances would I?

                                Seriously, I have no idea what you are talking about, what sort of events or conditions you imagine. Enlighten me. Describe to me a 'for instance' of the circumstances when you and Muzzeral had a substantive conversation.
                                Last edited by robertearle; 05-07-2024, 06:39 PM.

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