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  • Originally posted by BadgerPete View Post
    Second, every time this comes out "But hey, let them all continue to disparage our team. That bull**** will get back to Coach and she'll use it to motivate our girls." I laugh audibly out loud. No way is Coach Muzerall dumb enough to come into practice and say "hey gals, I heard two internet *******s thought a couple of other players were better than you" and think that she found the motivation that was going to push the team over the top. We're USCHO posters: embrace your complete and utter irrelevance. I know I have.
    "Embrace your complete and utter irrelevance." Ok, thank you. This made me LMAO!! I'll 'fess up, I am not 100% sure Nadine ever uses any of this stuff to motivate our players (probably not). I just like to stir the pot a little sometimes. I do happen to know that her Mom and Husband read this stuff, but that is it. So, you are probably right that she has other ways of motivating our players.
    Last edited by osualum86; 01-27-2024, 10:04 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
      I think it's funny that Wisconsin posters get accused of downplaying the quality of Ohio state's roster. That is not the case. What wrinkles the feather of Wisconsin and Minnesota fans is the fact that Tosu posters are constantly asserting that the Ohio State players are all the best that everybody else is just an annoying fly on the screen. I appreciate your enthusiasm but a little less bravado would go a long way towards a peaceful coexistence amongst WCHA fans. But I get your perspective, you went from being total garbage to national champs, and it appears it's a sustainable level of quality and not a flash in the pan.
      I don't recall asserting that our players are all the best and everyone else is just an annoying fly on the screen. If someone has gotten that from anything I have posted, they'll have to point it out to me so I can make sure I don't do that again. I am enthusiastic about my team because I lived through the years when we were irrelevant and couldn't even get to the WCHA Final Face-Off, let alone anything beyond. I have had to learn to "act like I have been there." I even told Coach that in her second season when we started winning. In her second season, we had just swept a highly-ranked opponent. I gave her a big hug and was dealing with some happy tears, and I think she was a little stunned by it or something. I said, "Sorry, Coach, I know we are supposed to act like we have been here, but until now, we haven't been here." I am not on here trying to **** people off, I guess I just get a little over-excited sometimes about Ohio State Women's Hockey being relevant and competing for titles. There was a time when I never thought Ohio State Women's Hockey would get to Frozen Fours and actually win a National Title.
      Last edited by osualum86; 02-04-2024, 10:25 PM.

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      • Originally posted by robertearle View Post

        They have a spreadsheet at that web site that lists 144 players in the transfer portal, but I do not see a column that shows 'years of eligibility remaining'.

        But contending that there was only one player transferring for their final year is just silly. Bilka and Barnes are both transfers in their final year; Markowski is, King is. Reese Hunt happens to be at the top of the spreadsheet, and she's in her final year. One of the two (and maybe both?) Badgers who entered the portal, Grace Shirley, is playing at Providence in her final year.

        These guys showed 150+ players who entered the portal during/after the 2022-23 season, they show 89 of them as having done so with a single year of eligibility remaining.

        https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1606114829

        The questions will be for the coming year, will there be as many as 144 or 150 entering the portal, and what sort of 'breakdown' of years of eligibility remaining will be. I expect the number will be smaller, and likely much smaller.

        But IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

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        Adding, it is also possible that the number of 'one year remaining' COVID year players entering the portal also drove the number of 'more than one year' players higher, and as the one falls, so will the other. Ohio State had five (?) players transfer OUT last year; did they do so because they saw playing time and scholarship diminish because of the players transferring in? Fewer players transferring in could well translate into fewer players transferring out, driving the total 'population' available in the portal lower.
        I agree with you regarding it remains to be seen what role the transfer portal will play in the future. I think there will always be some players who are unhappy with their situation and will enter the transfer portal, but I think it will decrease once this season is done and there are no longer players who have the extra covid year. I counted 8 grad students on our roster playing their extra year this season. Of the eight, only two of them have been here at OSU all five seasons. The other six transferred in. Whatever happens with the transfer portal, I trust Coach Muzerall to adapt.

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        • Ok, well, there was a game played earlier today. The Buckeyes completed their sweep at St. Cloud by a final score of 3-2. As expected, the Huskies made Ohio State work hard for this one. St. Cloud opened the scoring in this one on a goal by Emma Gentry and led 1-0. The scored stayed that way until late in the first period when Kiara Zanon lit the lamp for the Bucks to tie it at 1-1. Ohio State's Makenna Webster scored the only goal of the second period and the Buckeyes went into the final intermission with a 2-1 lead. Joy Dunne would find the back of the net in the third period to give Ohio State a 3-1 lead and they would need her goal as Taylor Lind got a late 6-on-4 PP goal to cut the lead to 3-2. The Buckeyes did not allow the Huskies to get the equalizer and that is how it ended. Ohio State outshot St. Cloud 36-20 in this one with Amanda Thiele stopping 18 of the 20 shots to get the win. Sanni Ahola was brilliant, as she usually is, stopping 33 of the 36 shots she faced in the loss. Ohio State returns home next weekend to take on the Bemidji State Beavers. St. Cloud will travel to Madison to take on the Wisconsin Badgers.

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          • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

            You don't understand how this thread works. It's 100% hype and positivity 110% percent of the time. It's perfection exemplified and nothing less. There's not room for objective analysis. The thought of a Muzzinated player not being perfect is completely bonkers. I personally appreciate it though.
            Personally I've overtly embraced the goal of being "relentlessly positive," posting that disclaimer many times over the years. So I guess I'm part of the successful effort. (winking emoticon here)

            Objectivity in this forum? I'd say that's pretty much limited to the material provided by USCHO Staff. The vast majority of the user posts are influenced by the user's vantage point. It's not a shocker that the Ohio State thread is Buckeyecentric.

            Originally posted by Timothy A
            I think it's funny that Wisconsin posters get accused of downplaying the quality of Ohio state's roster. That is not the case. What wrinkles the feather of Wisconsin and Minnesota fans is the fact that Tosu posters are constantly asserting that the Ohio State players are all the best that everybody else is just an annoying fly on the screen.
            I take it you routinely skip my 3 Stars Posts, which of course you have every right to do. But I try hard to include praise for opposing players. IMHO, the OSU thread praises opposing players at a rate that's well above average.

            I appreciate your enthusiasm but a little less bravado would go a long way towards a peaceful coexistence amongst WCHA fans. But I get your perspective, you went from being total garbage to national champs, and it appears it's a sustainable level of quality and not a flash in the pan.
            You're not 100% wrong. Some of our posts in recent seasons can characterized as nouveau riche. But if you're really opposed to bravado, you might want to hold off on phrases like "total garbage." That's certainly intemperate, and in this case it's demonstrably false.

            I've been around for all 25 seasons. Pre-Nadine, the big picture is that OSU was a good, middle-of-the-pack club. Won lots of games with many admirable players. Didn't win championships. Couldn't break into the WCHA's Top 3. Was generally battling for 4th Place. Did a decent job of representing the WCHA in non-conference play.

            One season the Buckeyes finished as the WCHA Playoff Runner-Up. Other seasons can be fairly characterized as failures. But these seasons were outliers.

            Fully objective? Oh, probably not. But from a Buckeye vantage point, I'll claim it's a decent effort at objectivity.

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            • Originally posted by BadgerPete View Post

              ...every time this comes out "But hey, let them all continue to disparage our team. That bull**** will get back to Coach and she'll use it to motivate our girls." I laugh audibly out loud. No way is Coach Muzerall dumb enough to come into practice and say "hey gals, I heard two internet *******s thought a couple of other players were better than you" and think that she found the motivation that was going to push the team over the top.
              I agree that this specific scenario isn't happening.

              We're USCHO posters: embrace your complete and utter irrelevance. I know I have.
              You need to loosen your embrace. The college hockey world is much smaller than you think it is.

              I'll emphasize that I'm not commenting on any current coach in either the Women's WCHA or the Men's BTHC. But I know from first hand knowledge of multiple past coaches who read USCHO, occasionally including the Fan Forum.

              When you think it through, it makes some sense. These days everyone who has goods, services or entertainment to sell wants consumer feedback. I don't know about you, but my experience is that I've been absolutely bombarded with requests for feedback from every imaginable seller.

              Whether a coach makes any actual use of public opinion is more speculative, of course. But they do want to be aware of the opinions that are circulating.

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              • Too lazy to quote but yes referring to teams as total garbage is just insane. Kind of funny because when Muzerall first joined and had success haters said it was because what she inherited was already good. We have to pick a lane, lol.

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                • Originally posted by pgb-ohio View Post
                  Personally I've overtly embraced the goal of being "relentlessly positive," posting that disclaimer many times over the years. So I guess I'm part of the successful effort. (winking emoticon here)

                  Objectivity in this forum? I'd say that's pretty much limited to the material provided by USCHO Staff. The vast majority of the user posts are influenced by the user's vantage point. It's not a shocker that the Ohio State thread is Buckeyecentric.

                  I take it you routinely skip my 3 Stars Posts, which of course you have every right to do. But I try hard to include praise for opposing players. IMHO, the OSU thread praises opposing players at a rate that's well above average.

                  You're not 100% wrong. Some of our posts in recent seasons can characterized as nouveau riche. But if you're really opposed to bravado, you might want to hold off on phrases like "total garbage." That's certainly intemperate, and in this case it's demonstrably false.

                  I've been around for all 25 seasons. Pre-Nadine, the big picture is that OSU was a good, middle-of-the-pack club. Won lots of games with many admirable players. Didn't win championships. Couldn't break into the WCHA's Top 3. Was generally battling for 4th Place. Did a decent job of representing the WCHA in non-conference play.

                  One season the Buckeyes finished as the WCHA Playoff Runner-Up. Other seasons can be fairly characterized as failures. But these seasons were outliers.

                  Fully objective? Oh, probably not. But from a Buckeye vantage point, I'll claim it's a decent effort at objectivity.
                  I think you are lumping yourself into a larger group that you don't quite fit the bill for being in that group.

                  I do regret the "total garbage". Posting in haste sometimes does not allow for proper wordsmithing. I had the thoughts of the 15-0 weekend dancing in my head and that was just one weekend many years ago.

                  I wish we were all just a little softer with each other, myself included. It would be sad to see this forum goes the way of the men's or worse the open forum.
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                  • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

                    I think you are lumping yourself into a larger group that you don't quite fit the bill for being in that group.

                    I do regret the "total garbage". Posting in haste sometimes does not allow for proper wordsmithing. I had the thoughts of the 15-0 weekend dancing in my head and that was just one weekend many years ago.

                    I wish we were all just a little softer with each other, myself included. It would be sad to see this forum goes the way of the men's or worse the open forum.
                    You did stir it up with your question in the bc thread, which obviously wasn't taken very well. I frankly think that was actually a pretty good question to ask as it is evident to this outsider that bc needs to make a coaching change. No better example of what a coaching change can do than what has happened with the yuckeyes and if you want to look at the men's side, your very own sinners under new leadership have turned it around.

                    At the outset, we could hang with the dude...

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                    • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

                      I think you are lumping yourself into a larger group that you don't quite fit the bill for being in that group.
                      I certainly agree that individual posters should be judged on their individual body of work. My posting style does differ from most others, including those in my own fanbase.

                      But I'm not the one who did the "lumping." I am an OSU Poster. My 3 Stars Posts have been an inherent part the Ohio State Thread for many seasons. Yes, if you go back enough years, the 3 Stars used to appear on the WCHA Thread. But they were always identified as coming from an Ohio State perspective.

                      Anyhow, these are long-standing affiliations. Not things I signed up for in the last week. If you're going to sit in judgement of the Ohio State Thread, then my work deserves to be included in that conversation.


                      I do regret the "total garbage". Posting in haste sometimes does not allow for proper wordsmithing. I had the thoughts of the 15-0 weekend dancing in my head and that was just one weekend many years ago.

                      I wish we were all just a little softer with each other, myself included. It would be sad to see this forum goes the way of the men's or worse the open forum.
                      I certainly support your call for civility. I agree that the other boards have been damaged by a lack of the same. You are a major contributor on USCHO and I appreciate you.

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                      • Originally posted by pgb-ohio View Post
                        You are a major contributor on USCHO and I appreciate you.
                        Like-wise, I do enjoy your game recaps and I give you a big atta boy for acknowledging your opponents good performances.

                        I'm torn if I want Tosu to finish up in Madison with the title already won or do I want the Badgers within 6 points with the likelihood that my eyes will bleed again after one of the 2 games. If my eyes bleed or not, it will be fun to see the 2 teams in person and see how match up on the eye test.
                        Wisconsin Hockey: 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 WE WANT MORE!
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                        Come to the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod
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                        Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
                        "Baggot says Hughes and Rockwood are centering the top two lines...
                        Timothy A --> Great hockey mind... Or Greatest hockey mind?!?"

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                        • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

                          Like-wise, I do enjoy your game recaps and I give you a big atta boy for acknowledging your opponents good performances.

                          I'm torn if I want Tosu to finish up in Madison with the title already won or do I want the Badgers within 6 points with the likelihood that my eyes will bleed again after one of the 2 games. If my eyes bleed or not, it will be fun to see the 2 teams in person and see how match up on the eye test.
                          That's easy. Ohio State isn't going to lose over the next three weeks. So for Wisconsin to still be within the six standings point, they will have swept their six games between now and then. Than just about guarantees at least the third seed in the NCAAs, and home game, and not against Minnesota (and a #6 seed vs #11 seed at LaBahn).

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                          • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

                            Like-wise, I do enjoy your game recaps and I give you a big atta boy for acknowledging your opponents good performances.
                            Well, thank you.

                            I just hope everyone keeps in mind that I only chronicle positive accomplishments. Meaning I'm not even trying to do complete recaps. I'll never declare a player "Sieve of the Series," even if someone earns that tag. And if some bakery wants to sponsor "The Turnover of the Game?" Not happening; no matter how good the money is. (winking emoticon here)

                            I'm torn if I want Tosu to finish up in Madison with the title already won or do I want the Badgers within 6 points with the likelihood that my eyes will bleed again after one of the 2 games. If my eyes bleed or not, it will be fun to see the 2 teams in person and see how match up on the eye test.
                            If you guys feel the need to drop a point here or there, you won't find me complaining. Both of our teams intend to be part of all four weekends of the post-season. There will be more than enough white-knuckle hockey to satisfy everyone.

                            Besides, your ophthalmologist is already overworked, and doesn't need another bleeding eye case.

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                            • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

                              Like-wise, I do enjoy your game recaps and I give you a big atta boy for acknowledging your opponents good performances.

                              I'm torn if I want Tosu to finish up in Madison with the title already won or do I want the Badgers within 6 points with the likelihood that my eyes will bleed again after one of the 2 games. If my eyes bleed or not, it will be fun to see the 2 teams in person and see how match up on the eye test.
                              I am torn, too. It would be nice to already have the Julianne Bye Cup wrapped up before that weekend in Madison. Then again, that close to the postseason, it would be nice to go up there and have something to play for. I think it might be better if we kept our foot on the gas. We'll see what happens. We need to take care of our business leading up to that series.

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                              • Originally posted by osualum86 View Post
                                I am torn, too. It would be nice to already have the Julianne Bye Cup wrapped up before that weekend in Madison. Then again, that close to the postseason, it would be nice to go up there and have something to play for. I think it might be better if we kept our foot on the gas. We'll see what happens. We need to take care of our business leading up to that series.
                                If you are 6 points up, and you will be, before the WI series, you can party all you want to, you will have at least a share of the league title secured, and a share IS being league champs. All that will be left is to deny the BADgers the same title.
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                                Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
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