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  • Timothy A
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    Originally posted by robertearle View Post
    A ninth WCHA member would complicate scheduling, meaning either even fewer non-conference games than now, or an unbalanced schedule and doing away with the home-and-home two game weekends vs every conference opponent. I'm not a fan of either option.
    This would be a horrible outcome.

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  • Hockeybuckeye
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    Originally posted by robertearle View Post

    A ninth WCHA member would complicate scheduling, meaning either even fewer non-conference games than now, or an unbalanced schedule and doing away with the home-and-home two game weekends vs every conference opponent. I'm not a fan of either option.
    I hear you but I wouldn't let the thought of it bother you much at this point with it just being the opinion of a sports writer.
    When they do get a team and will have to petition a conference for admission the WCHA might like the idea of another Big Ten university but I guess we'll see.

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  • robertearle
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    Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View Post
    A paragraph from the Michigan women's hockey story in The Rink Live.

    The addition of Michigan to the women’s college hockey world would mean five Big Ten schools sponsoring the sport, with Minnesota, Wisconsin, Ohio State and Penn State already having programs in place. The Wolverines would seemingly be a natural geographic fit in the current WCHA, and would be the ninth member of that conference.
    A ninth WCHA member would complicate scheduling, meaning either even fewer non-conference games than now, or an unbalanced schedule and doing away with the home-and-home two game weekends vs every conference opponent. I'm not a fan of either option.

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  • Still Eeyore
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    Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View Post
    I have connections at UM and from those sources I started this thread. I've known for a year this was gathering momentum at Michigan.
    The Illich family will make it happen and get other mega donors on board. Look for the team to come into existence no later than three years.
    As I've also said, if there is a large donation specifically tied to starting a women's hockey team, that becomes a different matter. But I've also become quite skeptical of a lot of the claims you make.

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  • Hockeybuckeye
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    A paragraph from the Michigan women's hockey story in The Rink Live.

    The addition of Michigan to the women’s college hockey world would mean five Big Ten schools sponsoring the sport, with Minnesota, Wisconsin, Ohio State and Penn State already having programs in place. The Wolverines would seemingly be a natural geographic fit in the current WCHA, and would be the ninth member of that conference.

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  • Hockeybuckeye
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    Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

    I clearly stated I was referring to the little MN schools' costs to head so far east, not the fans.
    I wasn't referencing your particular comment but the grousing I've heard over the years from many on forum.

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  • Timothy A
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    Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View Post
    Ohio State absolutely won't leave the WCHA unless they're made to with a Big Ten conference happening and it's total nonsense to imply otherwise.
    You guys complain about travel but Eeyore is the only one of you dedicated enough that I've seen in Columbus supporting his team so if you aren't making the trip don't complain. Do you hear us whining about going to Minnesota and Wisconsin for all of our conference away games?
    Also it's inevitable that when we get the new arena it will be in the rotation to host WCHA Final Faceoffs so what are you gonna do then besides complain?
    I clearly stated I was referring to the little MN schools' costs to head so far east, not the fans.

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  • Hockeybuckeye
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    Originally posted by StPaulSam View Post

    I didn't realize they were going to start rotating the championship. The only reason it's in Duluth next year is because we're also hosting the Frozen Four.
    To be more accurate the schools have to apply to host which Ohio State will do. If the arena's meet the requirement they won't deny them. I assume when St.Thomas gets their new barn they might try and get a Final Faceoff as well.

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  • StPaulSam
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    Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View Post

    Also it's inevitable that when we get the new arena it will be in the rotation to host WCHA Final Faceoffs so what are you gonna do then besides complain?
    I didn't realize they were going to start rotating the championship. The only reason it's in Duluth next year is because we're also hosting the Frozen Four.

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  • Hockeybuckeye
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    Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

    Wow, I never thought about the fact that you really don't need an auto bid if you have good teams in your league. That being said, I still don't want a big 16 hockey League to see the light of day.

    Geographically it does make sense to put tosu and Michigan in the CHA. That would help the small Minnesota schools with their travel budget.
    Ohio State absolutely won't leave the WCHA unless they're made to with a Big Ten conference happening and it's total nonsense to imply otherwise.
    You guys complain about travel but Eeyore is the only one of you dedicated enough that I've seen in Columbus supporting his team so if you aren't making the trip don't complain. Do you hear us whining about going to Minnesota and Wisconsin for all of our conference away games?
    Also it's inevitable that when we get the new arena it will be in the rotation to host WCHA Final Faceoffs so what are you gonna do then besides complain?

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  • Timothy A
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    Originally posted by robertearle View Post

    I don't think a five team B1G would have to worry about getting bids into tournament, even without an autobid.

    Scheduling might be a bit tricky, but an autobid really wouldn't matter much.
    Wow, I never thought about the fact that you really don't need an auto bid if you have good teams in your league. That being said, I still don't want a big 16 hockey League to see the light of day.

    Geographically it does make sense to put tosu and Michigan in the CHA. That would help the small Minnesota schools with their travel budget.

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  • Hockeybuckeye
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    Originally posted by Still Eeyore View Post
    I'll once again say that I'm dubious that this will happen.
    I have connections at UM and from those sources I started this thread. I've known for a year this was gathering momentum at Michigan.
    The Illich family will make it happen and get other mega donors on board. Look for the team to come into existence no later than three years.

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  • Still Eeyore
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    I'll once again say that I'm dubious that this will happen. I suspect that it will take someone making an enormous donation specifically to start the program, like the Pegulas at Penn State. Again, this would require a new arena, after Michigan has spent millions renovating Yost. A women's team might play at The Cube for a few years while it gets built, but that wouldn't be considered a permanent solution.

    Michigan does this every twelve years, like clockwork. They study adding women's hockey, and then conclude that they could add more sports, and more athletic opportunities, for less money, by adding other sports. In 2001, it was women's soccer and women's water polo. In 2012, it was men's and women's lacrosse.
    Last edited by Still Eeyore; 04-01-2024, 11:38 PM.

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  • Still Eeyore
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    Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post

    Doesn't matter. No conference is going to form from scratch without at least six teams.
    It is against the Big 10's bylaws to have a conference sport without at least six teams.

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  • StPaulSam
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    Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post

    There was a fairly loud outcry from the athletes of these PAC schools in the non-revenue sports when the B1G announcement was made. Many of them did not want to travel like this, taking time away from school, not to mention the wear and tear from traveling across country so many times when they weren't earning the NIL bucks like the revenue sports were. Most of those sports aren't sending athletes to the pros, especially on the women side, so falling behind in school was not a desire for them. I think there could be an issue for these former PAC schools recruiting for certain sports moving forward.
    Indeed when Washington and Oregon were added to the B1G (with olympic sport powerhouse Stanford left behind to join the ACC), Nebraska's football coach was telling anyone who'd listen that it'd be a huge boon for Nebraska olympic sports because of their now being more or less in the geographic center of the Big Ten. Since most of those teams will be flying commercial, I'd be better to be near a hub airport like Minneapolis or Chicago, for example, but that's neither here nor there.

    It's also a huge burden on the equipment staffs. Big 12 schools struggled all last FB season going from, e.g., Utah to Cincy or Orlando to Lubbock. And they spent an enormous amount of money to do it. So there's another expense eating up all of that B1G money for our new "friends."

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