Transfer Portal

[Reddington]

Let me throw out an example - and I really know nothing on the inner workings of OSU. Let's say players come into OSU on the you pay for two we pay for two model and you pay for the first two. So those players would not be on the ledger. Or money came from academics. Most colleges are handing out merit based money and the bar is low. For example I hear most lax players both boys and girls say "that they wished that their grades were a little better as they could have gotten the same money I'm getting athletically as the regular student body is getting without having to play a sport." Now, is it a far fetch to imagine that a coach would say you can stay, but you are either fourth line or going to be a healthy scratch if those players are not on the books because they were either paying their own way or getting merit based academic. The question becomes can a coach not give a scholarship as promised after you paid for the two years or maybe the coach is saying we will see how it goes - I'm going to guess yes they can because I would think that you may not sign until after sophomore year because you have to sign on the dotted line for atheletic money. I really don't know on this but, someone else might. I think this is how Wisc Minn and apparently now OSU are getting around the Big Ten four year thingie the other guy brought up.


Keep in mind only the Big Ten has the four year scholly and that is to protect the football players, but what they give to football has to apply to the other sports. This is much different than all other scholarships as other schools not in the Big Ten are year to year.

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

Their web site shows it as eight (albeit with three of them being from Robert Morris, which IMO means they carry an asterisk if the topic is 'poaching' or forcing players out, etc.)

Ok thanks... Not sure why I thought it was 11? But still Eight is enough

[robertearle]

And the Yuckeyes had more the year they won the title...Wasn't it like 11?

I don't recall the Sinners having more than two and that is pretty similar to the Tunnelers. Speaking of the Tunnelers, Goalie Olivia King is in the Portal.

Their web site shows it as eight (albeit with three of them being from Robert Morris, which IMO means they carry an asterisk if the topic is 'poaching' or forcing players out, etc.)

[robertearle]

Prior to the last three championships his women’s coaching legacy was on par with Frost and Miller.

Transfers helped take it to the next level.

Prior to the last three championships, Mark Johnson became the winningest coach in NCAA women's hockey, and became the only hockey player to have his number retired at Wisconsin.

[Lindsay]

I guess he could be called Ifailyouski...Needs some work but it's a start.

Lol that is fantastic.

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

This is not directed at Eeyore specifically,
but no calls for Idalski to develop his 7 players in the portal? Just multiple coach of the year awards and a t shirt that says it’s not personal it’s business. Hmmm,

I guess he could be called Ifailyouski...Needs some work but it's a start.

[AlwaysCold2]

This is complete bull**** and couldn't be more wrong. Coach Nadine did not "decommit" any players. The players that are in the transfer portal are there because they chose to leave, not because our coach "decommitted" them.

A coach doesn't decommit players that are already on their roster. *facepalm*

Decommitment is what happens when a Coach doesn't honor the verbal commitment to an incoming freshman because the coach decides to raid the transfer portal for seasoned players, leaving the incoming freshman scrambling to find a new program. And I've been told that's 100% happened at OSU over the past few years.

[Lindsay]

Ohio State had, I think, six transfers on this year's roster. Has Wisconsin ever had more than two?

(And I'm pretty confident that Johnson's legacy was already firmly established prior to 2019.)

Prior to the last three championships his women’s coaching legacy was on par with Frost and Miller.

Transfers helped take it to the next level.

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

Ohio State had, I think, six transfers on this year's roster. Has Wisconsin ever had more than two?

(And I'm pretty confident that Johnson's legacy was already firmly established prior to 2019.)

And the Yuckeyes had more the year they won the title...Wasn't it like 11?

I don't recall the Sinners having more than two and that is pretty similar to the Tunnelers. Speaking of the Tunnelers, Goalie Olivia King is in the Portal.

[Lindsay]

The five St Cloud players combined for zero goals, four assists, and the one goalie got zero minutes..

This is not directed at Eeyore specifically,
but no calls for Idalski to develop his 7 players in the portal? Just multiple coach of the year awards and a t shirt that says it’s not personal it’s business. Hmmm,

[robertearle]

As an example Sophie Jaques was on a 2 year engineering scholarship this year, because of what is available at OSU and her academic ability. Didn’t need an athletic scholarship.

Mark Johnson’s legacy has skyrocketed on the strength of his last 3 championships. Transfers factored heavily in all of those. People act like there werent people on his rosters losing playing time because of it. I don’t think it’s right to criticize Muzerall like she is the only one who loves the portal. In fact she herself lost a high profile player in Sauve to Clarkson (yes she was a graduate). The knife cuts both ways. Any of the five programs that has won a natty has been on the receiving end of high profile transfers simply because those are the programs people want to be at.

Ohio State had, I think, six transfers on this year's roster. Has Wisconsin ever had more than two?

(And I'm pretty confident that Johnson's legacy was already firmly established prior to 2019.)

[Lindsay]

But if they all chose to stay, how would she 1) afford their scholarships and afford the transfers and 2) keep her commitment to them when it appears she's trying replace them?

As an example Sophie Jaques was on a 2 year engineering scholarship this year, because of what is available at OSU and her academic ability. Didn’t need an athletic scholarship.

Mark Johnson’s legacy has skyrocketed on the strength of his last 3 championships. Transfers factored heavily in all of those. People act like there werent people on his rosters losing playing time because of it. I don’t think it’s right to criticize Muzerall like she is the only one who loves the portal. In fact she herself lost a high profile player in Sauve to Clarkson (yes she was a graduate). The knife cuts both ways. Any of the five programs that has won a natty has been on the receiving end of high profile transfers simply because those are the programs people want to be at.

[Hockeybuckeye]

But if they all chose to stay, how would she 1) afford their scholarships and afford the transfers and 2) keep her commitment to them when it appears she's trying replace them?

Not all players get scholarships and only a few get full rides. Some of the top players get full rides and the rest of the scholarship are broken apart and various amounts are distributed among the rest of the team as the coach sees fit.

[Timothy A]

This is complete bull**** and couldn't be more wrong. Coach Nadine did not "decommit" any players. The players that are in the transfer portal are there because they chose to leave, not because our coach "decommitted" them.

But if they all chose to stay, how would she 1) afford their scholarships and afford the transfers and 2) keep her commitment to them when it appears she's trying replace them?

[osualum86]

I find it interesting that there's an entire thread on Harvard women's hockey coach playing "mind hunger games" with her players - and yet Muzzerall is being lauded on here for basically decommitting players at whim, walking back promises/scholarships the last minute to players who had their hearts set on tOSU, replacing players that SHE RECRUITED after only 1-2 years so she can pick up transfers instead of actually, oh, I don't know, coaching and developing kids. What kind of experience are her student-athletes having? No one seem to cares, the sentiment is more 'oh, players should know what they're getting into because she's The Muzzinator". Because she's winning with the hodge podge she's been able to put together the last few years because of COVID, that way she's running her program is ok? Why don't you ask some of the earlier players about the time she walked into the locker room, made a popping sound with her finger, and said "That's you guys getting your heads out of your asses". Talk about class.

This is complete bull**** and couldn't be more wrong. Coach Nadine did not "decommit" any players. The players that are in the transfer portal are there because they chose to leave, not because our coach "decommitted" them.