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Originally posted by hab View PostI have no direct experience with the Harvard program. As someone who had a daughter on an opposing team I was well aware of Stone's unique coaching style. But because I was not close to the program I have tried to stay out of this messy situation. By I do want to say that I am impressed at how various folks who have had a history of intelligent commentary on the Harvard program, in this forum, have come forward to help the University work its way through this. They didn't need to do that....their daughters, friends etc, have move on, but they came forward for the sake of the program.
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Kerstin Matthews, former associate coach at BU , should be on the short list.
Great coach, recruiter and mentor . Almost forgot , a good person.
IMO , should have been chosen as Head of BU buT they went w an alumna .
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Originally posted by Timothy A View PostSo the Stonester gets a free get out of jail card that allows her to be somewhat hirable vs just getting flat out fired, which would make her un-hirable. This way she admits nothing and pretends it never happened. At least she's out. That was a must.
So who might the candidates be to replace her? MN and OSU seem to have revolving doors with assistants, so looking for someone from there is not likely. The UW assistants have been there for a long time, but I don't know if either wants to uproot their families and head east. Both would be viable options. Maybe Crowell heads back east, she might be the best choice as far as my western bias goes. Her or Muzzy.
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Originally posted by Watson Rink View PostHow about asking the program's first coach, Joe Bertagna, to take the reins as interim head coach for 2023-2024? Uniquely experienced at starting a Harvard women's hockey program from scratch.....
And wondering how many, if any, of the players who dropped out but are still eligible will be interested in rejoining the team
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I have no direct experience with the Harvard program. As someone who had a daughter on an opposing team I was well aware of Stone's unique coaching style. But because I was not close to the program I have tried to stay out of this messy situation. By I do want to say that I am impressed at how various folks who have had a history of intelligent commentary on the Harvard program, in this forum, have come forward to help the University work its way through this. They didn't need to do that....their daughters, friends etc, have move on, but they came forward for the sake of the program.
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Originally posted by thirdtime's . . . View Post
For now. To fire the AD on the heels of Stone's exit would be the acknowledgement of dysfunction and scandal that Stone's “retirement” statement is designed to avoid, and so would be a PR gaff worthy of McDermott herself. A seemly interval has to pass before she gets her “Onward and Outward” email. Meanwhile her punishment will be to live on borrowed time. Should other heads roll? Yes, but we should live so long.
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So the Stonester gets a free get out of jail card that allows her to be somewhat hirable vs just getting flat out fired, which would make her un-hirable. This way she admits nothing and pretends it never happened. At least she's out. That was a must.
So who might the candidates be to replace her? MN and OSU seem to have revolving doors with assistants, so looking for someone from there is not likely. The UW assistants have been there for a long time, but I don't know if either wants to uproot their families and head east. Both would be viable options. Maybe Crowell heads back east, she might be the best choice as far as my western bias goes. Her or Muzzy.
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Originally posted by Puckluck89 View Post
Natalie Darwitz disappeared from the Gophers coaching staff last week?
My guess is her destination is the open Whitecaps gig but her lifestyle may have changed since she said that about Hamline...
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Originally posted by Trillium View PostWhat is disturbing is that the AD remains
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Originally posted by Trillium View PostWhat is disturbing is that the AD remains
Btw, what’s Sami Reber doing these days?Last edited by thirdtime's . . .; 06-07-2023, 08:09 AM.
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Originally posted by dave1381 View Post
I agree there is objectively a good case to fire the AD based on her ra-ra Katey attitude in response to the internal investigation over the summer, which then allowed this whole situation to blow up in the Globe and the Athletic. It would've probably been better for everyone if Katey had stepped down more quietly back then.
But you can't fire the AD and not fire any associate AD who was in charge of oversight for women's hockey as well. It'd be pretty rich to fire Harvard's first female AD, but not fire any male associate AD responsible for overseeing women's hockey for many years before the AD arrived.
There is the possibility however that associates have brought issues to the attention of the AD, who was the one who then chose not to act on them.
The J&B investigation was broader than just Stone: why did athletes and their families not more often report issues? When they did repeatedly did over the last decade, why was nothing done? There is lots more culpability to still be addressed. It will be interesting to see if it will be.
By her words and actions, EM was a big supporter of Stone and apparently saw nothing to be concerned about. She has demonstrated poor judgement and a lack of leadership. This is the person they want to lead the process of finding Stone’s successor?!! Not a good look
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Originally posted by Skate79 View Post
Guessing that Harvard will look for a young and upcoming coach from a program that is nationally recognized. Whoever comes aboard will need to fix the culture first and foremost. And that may take a while given all that has gone on in the past twenty-plus years.
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Originally posted by Trillium View PostWhat is disturbing is that the AD remains
But you can't fire the AD and not fire any associate AD who was in charge of oversight for women's hockey as well. It'd be pretty rich to fire Harvard's first female AD, but not fire any male associate AD responsible for overseeing women's hockey for many years before the AD arrived.
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How about asking the program's first coach, Joe Bertagna, to take the reins as interim head coach for 2023-2024? Uniquely experienced at starting a Harvard women's hockey program from scratch.....
And wondering how many, if any, of the players who dropped out but are still eligible will be interested in rejoining the team
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