Ohio State Buckeyes 2022-2023 ... The Drive For Duluth

[Still Eeyore]

I would counter that if a player is laying motionless on the ice, would it not be logical for the official to want to see the cause of it?

That was intended as a general comment. In this specific case, I think they didn't go to video review because they know that there's no camera in that arena that can see what happens in the corner with any clarity. I've certainly never seen any replays that can do that.

[MinnOTB]

That was intended as a general comment. In this specific case, I think they didn't go to video review because they know that there's no camera in that arena that can see what happens in the corner with any clarity. I've certainly never seen any replays that can do that.

I would add that the ref who is being mercilessly maligned here was in a very good position to see what actually happened and maybe didn’t need to review anything, as opposed to spectators who were 150-200 feet away or those of us viewing the stream who, of course, are watching the play through the special Ohio State net blur filter. Having said that, I’ve grabbed a clip of the play and have watched it frame-by-frame, stepping forward and backwards probably in excess of a hundred times and I’m not convinced the Bemidji player ever initiated any significant contact with Buglioni. It appears to me that the two players are about even with each other as they approach the boards and Buglioni leans forward and is able to get her stick on the puck and successfully punch it up the boards to her teammate. Just after that her left, forward skate hits the boards and doesn’t move again until her head has nearly hit the ice. Progressing from the moment her skate hits the boards and stops, the first thing that happens is that her breezers rise up several inches as her left leg straightens and approaches vertical. This rising up motion occurs before any similar motion is detectable by the Bemidji player, suggesting no hip check occurred. It is also observable at this point that Buglioni’s right leg is actually behind the Beaver player’s left leg, suggesting that the Beaver was the one with the positional advantage and ruling out a checking from behind penalty. That only leaves as a possible infraction something with the Beaver players left arm such as elbowing and it is mostly obscured in the video. However, the stick is visible and it appears that her left hand never left the stick and there was no telltale motion of the stick indicative of any infraction visible in the video. I’m convinced that everything was precipitated by Buglioni’s left skate making that immediate stop while she was bent over and focused on making the play to help hold the zone and unfortunately she got injured in the process.

[Steamboat]

I would add that the ref who is being mercilessly maligned here was in a very good position to see what actually happened and maybe didn’t need to review anything, as opposed to spectators who were 150-200 feet away or those of us viewing the stream who, of course, are watching the play through the special Ohio State net blur filter. Having said that, I’ve grabbed a clip of the play and have watched it frame-by-frame, stepping forward and backwards probably in excess of a hundred times and I’m not convinced the Bemidji player ever initiated any significant contact with Buglioni. It appears to me that the two players are about even with each other as they approach the boards and Buglioni leans forward and is able to get her stick on the puck and successfully punch it up the boards to her teammate. Just after that her left, forward skate hits the boards and doesn’t move again until her head has nearly hit the ice. Progressing from the moment her skate hits the boards and stops, the first thing that happens is that her breezers rise up several inches as her left leg straightens and approaches vertical. This rising up motion occurs before any similar motion is detectable by the Bemidji player, suggesting no hip check occurred. It is also observable at this point that Buglioni’s right leg is actually behind the Beaver player’s left leg, suggesting that the Beaver was the one with the positional advantage and ruling out a checking from behind penalty. That only leaves as a possible infraction something with the Beaver players left arm such as elbowing and it is mostly obscured in the video. However, the stick is visible and it appears that her left hand never left the stick and there was no telltale motion of the stick indicative of any infraction visible in the video. I’m convinced that everything was precipitated by Buglioni’s left skate making that immediate stop while she was bent over and focused on making the play to help hold the zone and unfortunately she got injured in the process.

Thank you for taking the time and effort to clarify what happened on the ice. As I have stated on another thread, hockey is by nature a dangerous sport. Ice is slippery, the players can get up to great speeds, and little things can cause that speed to suddenly stop, with injury to the players body, and the hearts and minds of us spectators.

[pgb-ohio]

Thank you for taking the time and effort to clarify what happened on the ice. As I have stated on another thread, hockey is by nature a dangerous sport. Ice is slippery, the players can get up to great speeds, and little things can cause that speed to suddenly stop, with injury to the players body, and the hearts and minds of us spectators.

Good words. I'll certainly acknowledge that both my heart & mind were badly wounded by Jenna's injury. When one of our players gets hurt, it's a member of my "hockey family" suffering. Not a distant public figure.

Let me expand a bit on your phrase "little things." In my experience as both a hockey participant and a spectator, it's the awkward hits and collisions that cause the most injuries. Players usually skate away from a big collision when they have an instant to prepare for it.

Everyone is going to agree that blowing up a totally defenseless player should result in a penalty. And that does directly combat some of the very worst injuries. But effectively legislating against the little things is a vexing challenge.

[pgb-ohio]

Well done, Buckeyes. Beating Soderberg & the Bulldog Defense isn't easy. On other threads you aren't getting credit for the forecheck pressure you applied. But I, for one, appreciate your play without the puck.

Just as importantly, great job closing out the game. Especially after UMD pulled to within one. You simply kept calm and got the job done.

[ARM]

On other threads you aren't getting credit for the forecheck pressure you applied.

tOSU has a great forecheck, no question. Both plays that produced goals were Bulldog miscues, however -- coming out in front of your own net when safer alternatives were available, and a soft flip through the middle. There are reasons why coaches tell you not to do certain things, and I would guess that 5th-year D know what they are. You still have to take advantage, and tOSU did.

[osualum86]

Pgb likes those music references, so I am going to go all Gearhead here and say the Buckeye Women were "Takin' Care of Business" today with their 2-1 win over a very good Minnesota-Duluth team. Neither team could find the back of the net in the first period so the teams went into the first intermission with a 0-0 tie. The Buckeyes lit the lamp in the second period on goals from Brooke Bink and Emma Maltais to take a 2-0 lead into the final intermission. The Bulldogs got a late goal from Nina Jobst-Smith to pull to within a goal, but that is how it ended. The Buckeyes outshot UMD 36-27 with Buckeye netminder Amanda Thiele stopping 26 of the 27 shots she faced to get the win. Bulldog backstop Emma Soderberg stopped 34 of the 36 shots she faced in the loss. Ohio State moves into the WCHA Final Faceoff Title Game tomorrow where they will face the Minnesota Gophers, who defeated Wisconsin 4-2 in the other semi-final. Gametime tomorrow is 3:00 pm EST.

[robertearle]

Pgb likes those music references, so I am going to go all Gearhead here and say the Buckeye Women were "Takin' Care of Business" today with their 2-1 win over a very good Minnesota-Duluth team. Neither team could find the back of the net in the first period so the teams went into the first intermission with a 0-0 tie. The Buckeyes lit the lamp in the second period on goals from Brooke Bink and Emma Maltais to take a 2-0 lead into the final intermission. The Bulldogs got a late goal from Nina Jobst-Smith to pull to within a goal, but that is how it ended. The Buckeyes outshot UMD 36-27 with Buckeye netminder Amanda Thiele stopping 26 of the 27 shots she faced to get the win. Bulldog backstop Emma Soderberg stopped 34 of the 36 shots she faced in the loss. Ohio State moves into the WCHA Final Faceoff Title Game tomorrow where they will face the Minnesota Gophers, who defeated Wisconsin 4-2 in the other semi-final. Gametime tomorrow is 3:00 pm EST.

They love to work at nothin' all day? Uhh...

[ARM]

Didn't pgb already use that song reference one of those times when the Buckeyes were workin' overtime?

[osualum86]

They love to work at nothin' all day? Uhh...

LOL, ok, you got me on that one! What can I say, I like BTO. Might have to think of something different after tomorrow's game.

[osualum86]

Didn't pgb already use that song reference one of those times when the Buckeyes were workin' overtime?

He probably did. I will have to dig into my music collection and come up with something else.

[Lindsay]

He probably did. I will have to dig into my music collection and come up with something else.

The way they were scoring with the aid of their limbs (catching, redirecting) I submit the Hokey Pokey.

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

The way they were scoring with the aid of their limbs (catching, redirecting) I submit the Hokey Pokey.

Very good...

If you like Pro tools over-production and autotune then this could work...

Richocet

[pgb-ohio]

tOSU has a great forecheck, no question. Both plays that produced goals were Bulldog miscues, however -- coming out in front of your own net when safer alternatives were available, and a soft flip through the middle. There are reasons why coaches tell you not to do certain things, and I would guess that 5th-year D know what they are. You still have to take advantage, and tOSU did.

I agree with all of this. But in the immediate aftermath of Friday's game, only half the story was being told.

Didn't pgb already use that song reference one of those times when the Buckeyes were workin' overtime?

Over the years I've probably used it several times!

But I've got to tell you, this Buckeye team works hard Eight Days A Week. Take them on, and the OSU Forecheck is Always On Your Mind.

Here's to hoping The Beat Goes On. Son of a gun, I'd Cherish that.

[Eddie Schorr]

Tough having to play the Gophers on their home ice despite being the #1 seed, but I guess that's the price of being in a Minnesota-centric conference. Time to start thinking BTWHC?

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