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  • Originally posted by osualum86 View Post

    Penn State's student section rooted for the other teams (Yale and UMD) in both of our games. Made it that much sweeter to win and watch them all slink out of there with their tails between their legs. Guess they didn't want to watch the trophy presentation.
    Obviously ones loyalty is to your own school first but once their own team is out of it their loyalty should be to a fellow Big Ten school. I guess they must still be bitter from all the spankings our football team has given them.
    Last edited by Hockeybuckeye; 02-09-2023, 10:07 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View Post

      Obviously ones loyalty is to your own school first but once their own team is out of it their loyalty should be to a fellow Big Ten school. I guess they must still be bitter from all the spankings our football team has given them.
      So, if Michigan had gotten past TCU in the semi, you would have been rooting for them to win the FBS championship last month? Let's say I have my doubts...

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      • Originally posted by robertearle View Post

        So, if Michigan had gotten past TCU in the semi, you would have been rooting for them to win the FBS championship last month? Let's say I have my doubts...
        As long as they weren't playing Ohio State again, painful as it is to admit it - yes. Another admission is my dad and wife are from Michigan and Grandma graduated from Michigan Class of 1918. Fortunately I'm Columbus born and bred and attended Ohio State!

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        • Originally posted by pgb-ohio View Post
          A little hockey history for you. 1986 Men's Frozen Four in Providence, RI. The Zamboni breaks down at the downtown arena. No back-up on site. A zam from Providence College, driving on city streets, steps up to save the day. Those of us at the game wondered about the extra long intermission, only learning the back story after the fact.
          That's a great story.

          Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

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          • Originally posted by ManBehindTheCurtain View Post
            That's a great story.
            I'll have to tell someday the story of Rick James partying with Ohio State's men's team after the CCHA title game in Detroit back in '04. It's a great story too!
            Last edited by Hockeybuckeye; 02-10-2023, 12:29 AM.

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            • Originally posted by pgb-ohio View Post
              1. It looks like the public seats on both sides are selling well.
              2. Obviously the participating team allotments aren't on the market yet. But the allotments will put fans in at least 4 additional sections. Can't tell from Ticketmaster where the 4 sections are located.
              3. It appears that seating on both ends will be general admission.

              Maybe I'm just a hopeless optimist, but I think this means that there will be a reasonable number of fans on all 4 sides of the ice sheet.
              I live about 2 hours and 20 minutes of very good and not excessively highly trafficked freeway away from Amsoil Arena. I don't attend every Gopher game in Duluth but it is an easy drive and we have been there lots of times.

              It isn't the DECC, a building with an oddly shaped rink and limited seating capacity. By the way, that building still stands and I think the local high schools play there. The complex includes that arena, a practice rink that most OSU fans would find familiar as it looks a lot like your "arena", a curling club with I can't remember for sure either 6 or 8 sheets, and Amsoil.

              The others are antiques or irrelevancies, AMSOIL is a modern hockey facility with seating capacity well over what is going to be necessary for the Women's Frozen Four.

              Originally posted by pgb-ohio View Post
              3. It appears that seating on both ends will be general admission.
              So get reserved seats if that is what you require to be comfortable but be assured that there will be plenty of seats available which allow excellent hockey viewing.

              I particularly recommend the high in the corner along the line of the boards seats. That's where I generally sit, that is where I prefer to sit, excellent view, general admission.

              Sometimes I sit down in the reserved seats even though I do not have the ticket for the seats I sit in. It is a large arena, lots of the people with those tickets are sitting somewhere else. I do not recall ever being challenged by someone who held the ticket for the seat I was sitting in.

              I am with Eeyore, don't pay anything to Ticketmaster. If and when your (and my) team gets to the Frozen Four you will have no problem at all finding a seat to watch the game.
              Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

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              • Originally posted by ManBehindTheCurtain View Post
                I live about 2 hours and 20 minutes of very good and not excessively highly trafficked freeway away from Amsoil Arena. I don't attend every Gopher game in Duluth but it is an easy drive and we have been there lots of times.

                It isn't the DECC, a building with an oddly shaped rink and limited seating capacity. By the way, that building still stands and I think the local high schools play there. The complex includes that arena, a practice rink that most OSU fans would find familiar as it looks a lot like your "arena", a curling club with I can't remember for sure either 6 or 8 sheets, and Amsoil.

                The others are antiques or irrelevancies, AMSOIL is a modern hockey facility with seating capacity well over what is going to be necessary for the Women's Frozen Four.


                So get reserved seats if that is what you require to be comfortable but be assured that there will be plenty of seats available which allow excellent hockey viewing.

                I particularly recommend the high in the corner along the line of the boards seats. That's where I generally sit, that is where I prefer to sit, excellent view, general admission.

                Sometimes I sit down in the reserved seats even though I do not have the ticket for the seats I sit in. It is a large arena, lots of the people with those tickets are sitting somewhere else. I do not recall ever being challenged by someone who held the ticket for the seat I was sitting in.

                I am with Eeyore, don't pay anything to Ticketmaster. If and when your (and my) team gets to the Frozen Four you will have no problem at all finding a seat to watch the game.
                I have my seats at the top of 106 next to the aisle. My wife recently had a knee replaced so a lot of stairs are not her bag. We bought for the whole series and we qualify for senior rates so if for some reason we don't make it I'm only out fifty six bucks. Chairback seats were a must with us both being disabled. The bleachers in our barn are excruciating for us so I pray when we get a new arena please let it have seats and not bleachers!

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                • Originally posted by robertearle View Post

                  So, if Michigan had gotten past TCU in the semi, you would have been rooting for them to win the FBS championship last month? Let's say I have my doubts...
                  With respect to the Buckeye FB fan base generally, your doubts are warranted. A good percentage of the Buckeye faithful root against Michigan on a 24/7/365 basis.

                  But HockeyBuckeye is being straight with you. Should you ever meet him in person, you're apt to see him wearing a Red Wings jersey. He does indeed have ties to both states.

                  Let me also note that your hypothetical is literally the toughest test of conference loyalty you could pose to a Buckeye fan. Football; Arch-Rival; Competing for a National Championship we feel we coulda shoulda have won, etc.


                  For my part, I also believe in conference loyalty. No Ann Arbor ties for me; just a way to root that was passed down by my Dad & Granddad. By root, I do not mean cheering out loud. Just hoping that the conference does well against non-conference competition.

                  In a normal FB Bowl season, I keep track of all of the Big Ten teams competing. When the season's finally over, I take note of the Big Ten won-lost record in the bowls, hoping for the best possible results. That means rooting for all conference mates, including Michigan. I do catch some heat for that from other Buckeye fans.

                  Now in your cruelest of all scenarios, I'm not 100% sure what I would have done. But you know what? Rooting for an SEC team in a national title game is pretty unthinkable as well. I certainly respect SEC Football. But root? For all intents and purposes, never. Had the nightmare match-up actually occurred, I probably would have gone with my fully neutral, student-of-the-game approach.

                  Back to Hockey.

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                  • Originally posted by pgb-ohio View Post
                    But HockeyBuckeye is being straight with you. Should you ever meet him in person, you're apt to see him wearing a Red Wings jersey. He does indeed have ties to both states.
                    I would add mother like myself was Columbus born & raised and my poor dad, I don't know if his mother ever forgave him for taking classes at Ohio State after the war. Lol!
                    As far as my Red Wings loyalty I like the Blue Jackets but I had a hockey team decades before the Jackets existed and a true fan doesn't jump ship which is why I'm stuck with the Browns!​​​​​​
                    My daughter was an Ice Crew girl for the Jackets and I was privy to a LOT of very interesting things. Sadly for them there's a lot of dust in the rafters of Nationwide Arena where any kind of championship banner would hang.
                    Just saying.

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                    • Originally posted by ManBehindTheCurtain View Post
                      I live about 2 hours and 20 minutes of very good and not excessively highly trafficked freeway away from Amsoil Arena. I don't attend every Gopher game in Duluth but it is an easy drive and we have been there lots of times.

                      It isn't the DECC, a building with an oddly shaped rink and limited seating capacity. By the way, that building still stands and I think the local high schools play there. The complex includes that arena, a practice rink that most OSU fans would find familiar as it looks a lot like your "arena", a curling club with I can't remember for sure either 6 or 8 sheets, and Amsoil.

                      The others are antiques or irrelevancies, AMSOIL is a modern hockey facility with seating capacity well over what is going to be necessary for the Women's Frozen Four.
                      All interesting; appreciate the scouting report.


                      So get reserved seats if that is what you require to be comfortable but be assured that there will be plenty of seats available which allow excellent hockey viewing.
                      Change "require" to "prefer," and you've got me pretty well pegged. But I do take a pragmatic approach to this. When travel is involved, I'm more risk averse. When a doubleheader is involved, having a chair rather than a bench is of heightened value. Local event, at a venue I'm very familiar with? I'm more likely to take measures to avoid the fees.

                      Sammy Haggar notwithstanding, there actually is more than One Way to Rock.

                      I particularly recommend the high in the corner along the line of the boards seats. That's where I generally sit, that is where I prefer to sit, excellent view, general admission.
                      You may be behind the curtain, but you're a man of good taste. Over the years I've referred to those as the "Scout's View" seats. That location is best for seeing the whole ice surface. If you're in the building to scout one specific player, and you're going to be watching that player all game long, it's a great choice. And yes, I've spoken to NHL Scouts who do this.

                      Sometimes I sit down in the reserved seats even though I do not have the ticket for the seats I sit in. It is a large arena, lots of the people with those tickets are sitting somewhere else. I do not recall ever being challenged by someone who held the ticket for the seat I was sitting in.
                      I've certainly done this, when attending with buddies or attending alone. With wife or daughter, not so much. I'll also admit that as I've gotten older, I have less energy for this strategy. But yes, of course. Be just a little observant, and you can sit in better seats with virtually no risk of a problem.

                      I am with Eeyore, don't pay anything to Ticketmaster. If and when your (and my) team gets to the Frozen Four you will have no problem at all finding a seat to watch the game.
                      Eeyore is a purist, which I respect. But again, I'm a pragmatist. I figure out what's the best deal for me, and proceed accordingly.

                      Loose Analogy: I used to be very determined not to overpay for gasoline. Then came the time I drove all over town in order to find the right price. It was a siege, but I eventually saved 15 cents per gallon. I was feeling pretty good about myself until I realized I had burned a gallon of gas in the quest. Net result? A washout. No savings at all. I became much less fanatical about gas prices.

                      Don't get me wrong; I still try not to overpay. I do use the Gas Buddy website from time to time. But if the savings is going to be, say, a dollar or less? I stop at the closest station and let them keep their "windfall profit."

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                      • Originally posted by ManBehindTheCurtain View Post
                        That's a great story.
                        Thanks; I think so.

                        I had actually forgotten that this involved the Gophers. Minnesota beat Denver in the 1986 3rd Place Game. First time the Gophs beat the Pios that season. And kind of fitting that the Zamboni mishap occurred during a 3rd Place contest, a tradition that's now extinct:

                        https://www.therinklive.com/mens-div...college-hockey

                        Lots of history on the Men's Frozen Four in the article as well.

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                        • Originally posted by robertearle View Post

                          So, if Michigan had gotten past TCU in the semi, you would have been rooting for them to win the FBS championship last month? Let's say I have my doubts...
                          I would have rooted for Michigan, too. I have family in suburban Detroit who are all Michigan fans. I have a little second cousin who graduated from Michigan and I think he is the coolest, so yes, I would root for Michigan. I wouldn't be as upset if they lost as I am when Ohio State loses, but I would have rooted for them. Since you are challenging Buckeye fans, if Minnesota is in the Frozen Four playing, let's say (someone other than a WCHA school) Yale, do you root for your arch-rival, the Gophers? Or do you cheer for Yale? What about Ohio State vs Yale? Would you root for the Buckeyes or Yale?

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                          • Originally posted by osualum86 View Post

                            I would have rooted for Michigan, too. I have family in suburban Detroit who are all Michigan fans. I have a little second cousin who graduated from Michigan and I think he is the coolest, so yes, I would root for Michigan. I wouldn't be as upset if they lost as I am when Ohio State loses, but I would have rooted for them. Since you are challenging Buckeye fans, if Minnesota is in the Frozen Four playing, let's say (someone other than a WCHA school) Yale, do you root for your arch-rival, the Gophers? Or do you cheer for Yale? What about Ohio State vs Yale? Would you root for the Buckeyes or Yale?
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                            • Originally posted by osualum86 View Post

                              I would have rooted for Michigan, too. I have family in suburban Detroit who are all Michigan fans. I have a little second cousin who graduated from Michigan and I think he is the coolest, so yes, I would root for Michigan. I wouldn't be as upset if they lost as I am when Ohio State loses, but I would have rooted for them. Since you are challenging Buckeye fans, if Minnesota is in the Frozen Four playing, let's say (someone other than a WCHA school) Yale, do you root for your arch-rival, the Gophers? Or do you cheer for Yale? What about Ohio State vs Yale? Would you root for the Buckeyes or Yale?
                              Rooting for or against other B1G schools depends on the sport, and the opponent (and if there's a Wisconsin interest - UW needs Minn to beat Iowa for some reason, eg - UW interest always wins out). Most of the time, I would root against Minnesota. Women's hockey, it's hard to imagine an opponent who could change that. Yale getting their first championship vs Minn getting another? Yale all the way. Football, against, except for an Alabama/Clemson kind of opponent (2003 vs Miami comes to mind; I was rooting for OSU). Gopher basketball is so meh, I'm not sure I could muster up a 'rooting' interest. Similar for Ohio State. OSU men hockey has a Badger head coach, and that factors in.
                              Last edited by robertearle; 02-10-2023, 06:14 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

                                I'd root for the rodents vs non- wcha and non-wcha vs osu. Don't hate me.
                                Reminds me of a short poem widely known to Big Ten fans:

                                Oh, how I hate Ohio State.

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