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  • Gargoyle
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    Originally posted by bodyup88 View Post
    Anyone ready for a new thread?
    Great idea! I think we've wrapped up 2022-2023 rather nicely.

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  • bodyup88
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    Anyone ready for a new thread?

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  • BadgerPete
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    Hey, can I just take a moment to think about how we have Caroline Harvey for THREE MORE YEARS?!?

    K, thanks.

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  • Timothy A
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    I'm on board with Patricio in giving Picard and Woz opportunities up the line chart. From what I have seen, Picard can be a distributor. Can she win faceoffs against the top opposing C's? I struggle with wanting the most talented Fr F not on the 4th line, yet getting Woz up the chart. Freshmen can go 2 ways, start out hot then hit a wall, or start slow then get hot. This last year it was get hot at the end for all 3. I like the idea of Potter and Murphy being together. WI has a great history of Fr D pairs being solid from day 1 and their talent level coming in should be between KK and Jungels. No extra F's and no extra D, a very lean ship. I'd like to see another D come on board, I'm not a big fan of the rotating 5 D system.

    Enright OB Eden
    Curl Picard LE
    Wheeler Simms Hall
    Gorbatenko Woz Vassuer

    Jungels Harvey
    Potter Murphy
    Helgeson Kotlowski

    Gervais McNaughton Baker

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  • Patricio
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    In their recent posts, Timothy A, Bonzo, and Badger Pete have commented about the makeup of next seasons F and D lines plus how the 3 goalies may be used. Over the past few weeks, I have been pondering the same questions, so I decided to add my thoughts to the discussion.

    Beginning with the D lines. I see the pairings of Harvey-Jungels and Helgesen-Kotlowski continuing. I think Jungels will expand on the improvements in her offensive play in the second half of this past season and adopt a more active role on offense, increasing the threats posed by her pairing with Harvey. Helgesen may seek to be more active on offense, but her contributions on that front likely will remain minimal. However, she and Kotlowski will remain a solid D pairing. The 3rd D line will consist of Potter and Murphy. I believe these two have the potential to be another Harvey-Jungels twosome. Both play solid D, have speed, aggressiveness, tough shots, and an eye for open teammates. This will give the Badgers 2 D lines that will serve to add significant pressure when either one is on the ice with any of the O lines.

    The O limes are a little trickier in my view. Enright-Simms-Eden started to jell nicely toward the end of the season when Enright was added to the line. Their chemistry should improve unless something changes dramatically. That leaves Edwards-Kurl-?, OB-Wheeler-?, Woz-Picard-?, and the 3 incoming recruits – Hall, Gorbatenko, and Vasseur. While all of the recruits are seen as offering plenty of potential, with Hall being the most heavily publicized, how well they will adjust to the level of the forthcoming competition remains an open question. However, MJ and his staff undoubtedly have thoughts and expectations that will inform the choices for placing them on the O lines. With those notes of caution, here are my suggestions for the O lines:
    • Enright-Simms-Eden for reasons already given.
    • Curl-Edwards-Woz. I believe Woz has a style of play that matches well with Curl’s and the two can fuel Edwards becoming more active in the slot and around the crease.
    • Hall/Picard-OB-Wheeler. All of these players have speed. Picard, OB, and Wheeler also have shown themselves to be aggressive jostling for the puck. Since Hall is regarded as a big time play maker, I assume she is somewhat aggressive as well. The key to me is matching the aggressiveness of OB and Wheeler with the 3rd member of this line.
    • Hall/Picard-Gorbatenko-Vasseur. This will be determined by the decision about the members of the previous line.
    I want to add that I have no objection to a line consisting of the 3 recruits. While that might prove shaky at first, the talent (if it proves out) is sufficient for them to become a productive threesome. However the lines are configured, I want to see all 4 average a minimum of 12 -13 minutes of playing time per game to ensure Woz and Picard get shots at a healthy amount of playing time (which I think they have earned and to which they will respond well), as well as to provide ample opportunities for them and the recruits to develop with a look to the future. The 24-25 season will have another 3 promising recruits to replace 3 graduating Fs, and I prefer that MJ does not have to address the loss of any more Fs to the portal following the 23-24 season.

    For the goalies, I expect Gervais to be #1 at the beginning of the season, but McNaughton will play substantial minutes given her status as a very promising prospect. However, I also would like Baker be given some time in goal in at least several of the early games against less challenging opponents to see if she would be a viable choice to fill in should one of the other suffer an injury requiring her to sit out for a week or two – like the situation with Gervais this past season.

    So, those are my musings. Regardless of how accurate they prove to be, I am confident MJ and his staff will put 7 solid lines and several quality Gs on the ice with a good chance of landing an 8th championship.

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  • BadgerPete
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    Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
    Holes to fill this upcoming season...

    Wheeler OB XXXX
    Curl XXXX LE
    Enright Simms Eden
    Woz Picard XXXX

    XXXX XXXX
    Jungels Harvey
    Helgeson Kotlowski

    XXXX Gervais Baker
    The six freshman (Hall, Gorbatenko, Vasseur, Murphy, Potter, MacNaughton) fill the x's precisely, although in what order will be up in the air.

    I could see something like:
    Wheeler-OB-Woz
    Hall-Curl-LE
    Enright-Simms-Eden
    Gorbatenko-Picard-Vasseur

    Jungels-Harvey
    Murphy-Helgeson
    Potter-Kotlowski

    Gervais-MacNaughton-Baker

    For the forwards, I almost switched Hall and Gorbatenko because Gorbatenko's size would hew closer to how that line was used last year, but having seen Cassie Hall play at 2 U18s I just don't see her not having a Top 9 spot. Eden and Hall might switch as well; Hall's play style could work with Simms and Enright quite well. For the defense, I split up Murphy and Potter with experienced players but again, I think both of them are good enough and the Jungels-Harvey line certainly showed that the right freshman can be a deadly pair. I can see Gervais and MacNaughton splitting weekends at the start.

    We definitely could use a 7th D from the portal, fortunately that's a depth player so I think there's options for someone who just wants a good chance at a Natty.

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  • Bonzo
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    Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
    Holes to fill this upcoming season...

    Wheeler OB XXXX
    Curl XXXX LE
    Enright Simms Eden
    Woz Picard XXXX

    XXXX XXXX
    Jungels Harvey
    Helgeson Kotlowski

    XXXX Gervais Baker
    Another talented class of freshman coming in to take those spots. Although they still need to add another defender. Potter and Murphy make 6 but you should have 7. Still waiting on whether Chayla Edwards is definitely moving on. She was at SR day but does have another year to play with her sister if she wants.

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  • Timothy A
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    Holes to fill this upcoming season...

    Wheeler OB XXXX
    Curl XXXX LE
    Enright Simms Eden
    Woz Picard XXXX

    XXXX XXXX
    Jungels Harvey
    Helgeson Kotlowski

    XXXX Gervais Baker

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  • Timothy A
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    Originally posted by ARM View Post
    Short side. It's similar to UW's first goal in that game: when the D turns the puck over right in front of the goalie, she's not going to be as ready to defend the net as she typically is.
    My memory of the play was there not a whole lot of space and the shot was from in tight and the D was all over the F.

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  • ARM
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    Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
    It also helps blot out the goal the rodents scored on ARD in OT in the semi's, was that in 2016? I still don't know how that goal went in.
    Short side. It's similar to UW's first goal in that game: when the D turns the puck over right in front of the goalie, she's not going to be as ready to defend the net as she typically is.

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  • Timothy A
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    Originally posted by Gargoyle View Post
    Here's a nice article about Harvey. https://www.ballysports.com/wisconsi...es-hockey-star
    What stood out to me was JJ opting for the old farts playing D and not playing KK. I think she ended up exceeding my lofty expectations for this season. That shot in OT against the rodents will live in my head forever, just like "the save" will. It also helps blot out the goal the rodents scored on ARD in OT in the semi's, was that in 2016? I still don't know how that goal went in. Anyway, ancient history. If you think about it, the gap between Olympic and non-Olympic players these days is razor thin. The UW Olympians didn't really jump out vs the non-Olympians.

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  • Timothy A
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    Originally posted by Gargoyle View Post
    Here's a nice article about Harvey. https://www.ballysports.com/wisconsi...es-hockey-star
    Great find. Thanks for sharing.

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  • Gargoyle
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    Here's a nice article about Harvey. https://www.ballysports.com/wisconsi...es-hockey-star

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  • Timothy A
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    Originally posted by BadgerPete View Post
    I found them on the tournament page: https://nationals.usahockey.com/2023girlstieri19u

    Lots of future Badgers in the tournament: Cassie Hall, Kelly Gorbatenko, Laney Potter, Bella Vasseur, and Ava MacNaughton and then Finley McCarthy and Maggie Scannell as future commits.
    What a great website, thanks for the link! Turns out Vasseur is rather good at hockey, shocking!

    Vasseur 5gp 3g 7a season 26gp 14g 12a
    Potter 6gp 1g 2a season 41gp 12g 21a 4 ppg 3 shg
    Hall 4gp 4g 4a season 20gp 18g 15a 2 ppg
    Gorbatenko 4gp 4g 2a season 16 gp 10g 5 a 1 ppg
    McNaughton 5gp 1.88 gaa .935 s% for the season 1.29 ga .921 s%

    Potter 3 shg as a D and 33 pts in 41 games, very impactful. Hall has HUJE numbers.

    Future....
    McCarthy 5gp 1g 4a season 21 gp 8g 10a 1 ppg
    Scannel 6gp, 5g 4a season 21 gp 21g 16a 5 ppg 1 shg

    Scannel putting up big numbers for being a younger player.

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  • BadgerPete
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    Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

    No you can't, It's just crazy that's school won't post any statistics.
    I found them on the tournament page: https://nationals.usahockey.com/2023girlstieri19u

    Lots of future Badgers in the tournament: Cassie Hall, Kelly Gorbatenko, Laney Potter, Bella Vasseur, and Ava MacNaughton and then Finley McCarthy and Maggie Scannell as future commits.

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