Wisconsin Badgers 2020-2021

[Timothy A]

I think she might be the daughter of former Badger Jon Helgeson who was a member of the 1990 NCAA championship team

I was curious about that possibility. I follow Duane Derksen on twitter and he tweeted out something to the effect of "do your parents approve of your choice?" Which made me think maybe he was not related to her.

[robertearle]

I was curious about that possibility. I follow Duane Derksen on twitter and he tweeted out something to the effect of "do your parents approve of your choice?" Which made me think maybe he was not related to her.

Jon Helgeson's twitter account. Obviously, he is the twins' father.

https://twitter.com/jonhelgeson

At some point this past year during a men's game (I think) Brian Posick was talking about father-son Badger combinations and which would be the scoring leaders for it (His guess was Mark Johnson and Patrick Johnson. pretty obvious there, but he had others for second and third, etc. Suters, Johannsons, etc) So I tweeted to him 'what about father-daughter combos?' Again, Mark Johnson and Mikala would be the leaders, and the only other I could think of was Lexi Doner and Molly Doner. So now we'll have a third such combo!

[ARM]

Thoughts....I like Quinnipiac series, Q typically is a contender in the CHA, could be a good measuring stick series for the leagues.

Q is typically in the second tier of the ECAC, other than that one year where they reached the NCAAs. They would figure to be somewhere between 5th to 7th this year. I don't see it as being a measuring stick for anyone, but least of all, the CHA. ;-)

[Lindsay]

Q is typically in the second tier of the ECAC, other than that one year where they reached the NCAAs. They would figure to be somewhere between 5th to 7th this year. I don't see it as being a measuring stick for anyone, but least of all, the CHA. ;-)

I just assumed Timothy was having flashbacks or something and possibly existing in the 2004-2005 season. Hopefully the episode passes soon.

http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0405/standings/chaw

[Timothy A]

Q is typically in the second tier of the ECAC, other than that one year where they reached the NCAAs. They would figure to be somewhere between 5th to 7th this year. I don't see it as being a measuring stick for anyone, but least of all, the CHA. ;-)

I can remember ranking them in the top 10 in the 9 or 10 slot, it must have been during that run.

[Timothy A]

After nosing around RPI's thread, Helgeson has a 4.25 Neutral Zone rating. I hope that's on a 1-5 scale LOL. They seemed pretty happy to have her on the books, so I'm assuming so.

[ARM]

They seemed pretty happy to have her on the books, so I'm assuming so.

They just want placeholders to keep you calm until they get around to fleecing some other NCAA rosters.

[Timothy A]

They just want placeholders to keep you calm until they get around to fleecing some other NCAA rosters.

Come on, tell us how you really feel instead of these vague, heavily veiled innuendos. Wink.

[ARM]

Come on, tell us how you really feel instead of these vague, heavily veiled innuendos. Wink.

Oh come on. The veil isn't that heavy.

As for how I feel, I don't think that any of your additions have really changed the balance of power all that much. Eden's case wasn't good for the sport, because the sport is healthier if she stays at Princeton where she'll make a difference. Wisconsin is going to be what it is either way, whether the talent level is a notch up or a notch down. Princeton, however, is still at a point where losing a blue-chip recruit for four years is going to leave a hole in the roster. There have been 22 years of UW hockey, and the Badgers have had a decent goalie for all but one of them, so I don't know how big of a difference even those transfers made in the big picture.

[robertearle]

Oh come on. The veil isn't that heavy.

As for how I feel, I don't think that any of your additions have really changed the balance of power all that much. Eden's case wasn't good for the sport, because the sport is healthier if she stays at Princeton where she'll make a difference. Wisconsin is going to be what it is either way, whether the talent level is a notch up or a notch down. Princeton, however, is still at a point where losing a blue-chip recruit for four years is going to leave a hole in the roster. There have been 22 years of UW hockey, and the Badgers have had a decent goalie for all but one of them, so I don't know how big of a difference even those transfers made in the big picture.

Are we just going to pretend that the Gophers didn't have a transfer in goal last season?

[ARM]

Are we just going to pretend that the Gophers didn't have a transfer in goal last season?

Were we speaking about the Gophers? Sorry, I missed that. Yes, they had a transfer in goal. She was very good early in the season, and wasn't able to make as much of a difference later, to the point that she didn't even start their only postseason game. Again, I didn't see transfers shifting the balance of power much for Minnesota either. I think that they could have missed the NCAA Tournament just as well with the goalies that returned from the previous year.

[robertearle]

Were we speaking about the Gophers? Sorry, I missed that.

You were speaking about transfers and the "heavily veiled innuendos" concerning how "you really feel" about them.

[ARM]

You were speaking about transfers and the "heavily veiled innuendos" concerning how "you really feel" about them.

Yes, I understand what I'm posting. Is there something that you would like me to address that I haven't? To recap, from my perspective: Timothy and I were joking about UW transfers; I said, in different words, that I didn't think the UW transfers had changed the landscape of where UW fits in the national picture; and I agreed that UM started a transfer in goal after its presumed starter suffered a career-ending injury. I don't think that transfer altered the national picture much, either. Is there something that you still want?

[robertearle]

Yes, I understand what I'm posting. Is there something that you would like me to address that I haven't? To recap, from my perspective: Timothy and I were joking about UW transfers; I said, in different words, that I didn't think the UW transfers had changed the landscape of where UW fits in the national picture; and I agreed that UM started a transfer in goal after its presumed starter suffered a career-ending injury. I don't think that transfer altered the national picture much, either. Is there something that you still want?

Are you in favor of college athletes being able to transfer schools, or not? If not, what problem do you have with it? Are there particular instances that run 'opposite' to your general opinion? That is, "generally OK with transfers, but not this one" or "generally not OK with transfers, but OK in this case", etc.

Right now, it seems like your position is "I'm OK with transfers, so long as they are not particularly impactful, but not so if they have a significant impact". And that would an absurd position; how is a school supposed to know apriori the level of impact?

No more "veiled innuendo", please.

[ARM]

Are you in favor of college athletes being able to transfer schools, or not? If not, what problem do you have with it? Are there particular instances that run 'opposite' to your general opinion? That is, "generally OK with transfers, but not this one" or "generally not OK with transfers, but OK in this case", etc.

College students have the right to transfer. We as fans can't make a decision for any young lady. Speaking for myself, I have a hard enough time running my own life and I don't wish to run anyone else's life. There is definitely something to be said for the student-athlete who runs into problems at a school and decides to stick it out and make things work, but I have no knowledge of why anyone decides to transfer in the first place. I've heard of all sorts of reasons in real-life situations: change of major field; family illness; homesick; etc.

Most of my comments are around the periphery of the transfers. I think we've discussed it being curious that UW didn't have a goalie all set to go, such that the transfer came in and took the job, seemingly without much of a battle. That doesn't mean I think it is the wrong decision for her, seeing an opportunity to play at Wisconsin and taking advantage of it. If Eden wants to go to Madison and compete for a title instead of waiting around for Princeton to resume competition, that is her business. I feel that I can comment on the impact on the sport while still saying that the student athlete has every right to attend any school to which she can gain admission. I went to school with many non-athletes who transferred to different schools, also for many different reasons. I planned to transfer when I first enrolled, but ultimately didn't. I don't see transferring as some evil.

As for a veil, that was Timothy's words, not mine. I never intended there to be one.