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  • Timothy A
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    Originally posted by robertearle View Post
    A person dies. A death certificate gets filed. They count how many certificates have been filed. They know how many deaths they expected, based on numbers from previous years. When they get more certificates than that, there are 'excess deaths'. Like there have been since March.

    Do you have an explanation, other than COVID, for that phenomenon?

    How does a hospital benefit financially by attributing the death to COVID, as opposed to, say, COPD or the flu?
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...xeXqu6M2_4OOmI

    Is isn't related to deaths, but there are financial reasons for Hospitals to list someone who has covid. I also read articles in March about the accuracy of death certificates and what the cause of death was. I'll see if I can find that. The basic gist of the article was that some, not all doctors, hate filling out paperwork and really put next to no effort into accurately filling out death certificates, which under normal circumstances isn't a big deal, right? Right now I guess it is, but whether the number of deaths is 140,000 or 180,000, it's still a lot of people dying.

    On the other hand....the recovery rates is between 97 and 99.5%.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...Dtvvwjq8h_PzZY

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  • robertearle
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    Originally posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post

    Sigh...I blame myself for getting into this mess. Lets just go with Peace, Love, and Bobby Sherman on WCH and on the rest agree to disagree.
    That, and "Dig into researching that for yourself" are the kind of things people say when they try to blow smoke, and somebody challenges them to back up their BS.

    First you insult me, and imply that I won't engage in discussion. Then when I do so, you walk away.

    Whatever, dude. Agree to disagree with facts all you want. They're still there, and they're still facts.

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  • FiveHoleFrenzy
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    Originally posted by robertearle View Post

    What the hell is "reshuffled numbers" supposed to mean? A person dies. A death certificate gets filed. They count how many certificates have been filed. They know how many deaths they expected, based on numbers from previous years. When they get more certificates than that, there are 'excess deaths'. Like there have been since March.

    Do you have an explanation, other than COVID, for that phenomenon?

    How does a hospital benefit financially by attributing the death to COVID, as opposed to, say, COPD or the flu?
    Sigh...I blame myself for getting into this mess. Lets just go with Peace, Love, and Bobby Sherman on WCH and on the rest agree to disagree.

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  • robertearle
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    Originally posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post

    OMG, you answered honestly. I am surprised.

    The answer is yes there is, but please don't take my word for it. Dig into researching that for yourself.

    Are there really excess deaths or could those be reshuffled numbers? Interesting to consider when the money becomes a factor. Clear and critical thinking.

    What the hell is "reshuffled numbers" supposed to mean? A person dies. A death certificate gets filed. They count how many certificates have been filed. They know how many deaths they expected, based on numbers from previous years. When they get more certificates than that, there are 'excess deaths'. Like there have been since March.

    Do you have an explanation, other than COVID, for that phenomenon?

    How does a hospital benefit financially by attributing the death to COVID, as opposed to, say, COPD or the flu?

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  • FiveHoleFrenzy
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    Originally posted by robertearle View Post
    No idea
    OMG, you answered honestly. I am surprised.

    The answer is yes there is, but please don't take my word for it. Dig into researching that for yourself.

    Are there really excess deaths or could those be reshuffled numbers? Interesting to consider when the money becomes a factor. Clear and critical thinking.


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  • robertearle
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    Originally posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post

    Again with the disingenuous I'm all ears.

    I try a question just to see how much you'll listen

    Is there a financial incentive for entities like hospitals to report CCP virus deaths?
    No idea,

    Do you, or do you not, have an alternative explanation for the number of 'excess deaths' the US has been seeing since March?

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  • FiveHoleFrenzy
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    Originally posted by robertearle View Post

    If you have an alternative explanation, I'm all ears.

    Do you have one, or not?
    Again with the disingenuous I'm all ears.

    I try a question just to see how much you'll listen

    Is there a financial incentive for entities like hospitals to report CCP virus deaths?

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  • robertearle
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    Originally posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post

    You think Bobby E is willing to listen to someone who has a different view? No think so.
    My name is Robert.

    Do you, or do you not, have an alternative explanation for the number of 'excess deaths' the US has been seeing since March?

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  • FiveHoleFrenzy
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    Originally posted by KTDC View Post

    The deniers telling you you don't listen! Ironic stuff...lol
    You think Bobby E is willing to listen to someone who has a different view? No think so.

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  • robertearle
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    Originally posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post

    No you are not.
    If you have an alternative explanation, I'm all ears.

    Do you have one, or not?

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  • KTDC
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    Originally posted by robertearle View Post

    Denying an obvious reality is not.
    The deniers telling you you don't listen! Ironic stuff...lol

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  • FiveHoleFrenzy
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    Originally posted by net presence View Post


    FiveHole.....I'll make you a deal, I'll link to at least 5 articles from extremely respected science journals and/or individual scientist/researchers who explain exactly why that, not only is the 160,000 plus deaths accurate but, there's extremely valid evidence and information that actually points to it being significantly under-counted. And, you provide links to at least 5 articles that are written by actual scientists and researchers that are truly respected as experts in a field that directly correlates to Covid 19.
    You, as well, are not interested in a deal.

    Hey nice job though, on going "really" hard sell on the bit with stuff like extremely respected, extremely valid, and truly respected.

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  • FiveHoleFrenzy
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    Originally posted by robertearle View Post

    Not "my" statistics; the US Census, and the CDC.

    If you have an alternative explanation, I'm all ears.
    No you are not.

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  • robertearle
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    Originally posted by net presence View Post

    "Corn"....As stated by another poster, it's all about liability. AND, the fact that at least 10 Big10 athletes who came down with Covid, have now been diagnosed with myocarditis, an extremely serious condition of an inflammation of the heart muscle that can lead to strokes and death. Almost all of the Big schools have extremely well respected research hospitals attached to them and, the Big10's health advisory group has some of the absolute best minds regarding Covid in the world. And, those experts have made a recommendation to halt fall sports. This is absolutely and purely, a science based decision. What's really interesting is that you have Nebraska's head football coach threatening to play outside of the Big10 and yet, the Big10's health and safety advisory group is lead by a scientist/doctor from that university's research hospital.
    In a nice bit of "right place, right time" coincidence, the current presidents of Michigan and Michigan State are both medical doctors with specialties in immuninology.

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  • net presence
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    Originally posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post

    The allegedly comment was going to produce a defensive response, which like clockwork, it did. How dare you question a Coronabro's statistics?



    See there you go...Much like Reddington, you were wasting your time.



    FiveHole.....I'll make you a deal, I'll link to at least 5 articles from extremely respected science journals and/or individual scientist/researchers who explain exactly why that, not only is the 160,000 plus deaths accurate but, there's extremely valid evidence and information that actually points to it being significantly under-counted. And, you provide links to at least 5 articles that are written by actual scientists and researchers that are truly respected as experts in a field that directly correlates to Covid 19.

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