Coronavirus

[Scott_TG]

So I am on Day 22 of suffering from COVID. I, too, did everything I could think of to avoid it but then our son came home from college with it. Interestingly enough, he took a cab home from the airport and went right to the basement where he quarantined for 14 days. We went so far as to leave food outside the door but somehow my wife and I both got it anyway. Maybe air circulating through the house?

I'll say that, while it's good news the death rate is dropping due to advances in treatments, you still **** well don't want to get it. I never had to go to the hospital but, since spending a week feeling like I had a terrible flu and then starting to feel better, I'm still coughing so bad it makes conversing difficult and I'm very fatigued, sleeping 12+ hours a night which is very unusual for me.

Of course, what's so frustrating with Covid is how it impacts so many so differently. My wife and son had mild cold symptoms for 5 or 6 days and then felt fine. My college-hockey-playing daughter had it and had the same minor symptoms. Now my 82-year-old mother-in-law has it and is asympotmatic (thank goodness!).

I will say I'll continue to support mask wearing and will get the vaccine as soon as it's available to me. I wouldn't wish Covid on anyone and anything I can do to help prevent the spread - even if it's a minor help - I'll do. Take care, people!

Thank you for sharing your story and I hope you get well soon. It's scary how many people are so dismissive of getting this thing despite how many patients there are with similar experiences to yours. It's not a game worth playing in my opinion

[Offsides Guy]

So I am on Day 22 of suffering from COVID. I, too, did everything I could think of to avoid it but then our son came home from college with it. Interestingly enough, he took a cab home from the airport and went right to the basement where he quarantined for 14 days. We went so far as to leave food outside the door but somehow my wife and I both got it anyway. Maybe air circulating through the house?

I'll say that, while it's good news the death rate is dropping due to advances in treatments, you still damn well don't want to get it. I never had to go to the hospital but, since spending a week feeling like I had a terrible flu and then starting to feel better, I'm still coughing so bad it makes conversing difficult and I'm very fatigued, sleeping 12+ hours a night which is very unusual for me.

Of course, what's so frustrating with Covid is how it impacts so many so differently. My wife and son had mild cold symptoms for 5 or 6 days and then felt fine. My college-hockey-playing daughter had it and had the same minor symptoms. Now my 82-year-old mother-in-law has it and is asympotmatic (thank goodness!).

I will say I'll continue to support mask wearing and will get the vaccine as soon as it's available to me. I wouldn't wish Covid on anyone and anything I can do to help prevent the spread - even if it's a minor help - I'll do. Take care, people!

[EMPTYNETTER]

Last January my wife, youngest son and his girlfriend all had a covid like illness except for the loosing taste thing. We suspect it was covid. Just about a year ago my parents were hospitalized with what was called pneumonia. My Dad's symptoms were strange in that he had some cognitive fogginess that is a symptom of covid, along with low oxygen. My Mom's was just straight up low oxygen. My daughter and myself have had no illness that could be covid over the last 12 months. My wife and I have discussed getting the antibody test.

Tempting fate.....Yes the Christmas cookie event was a risk, though the one who got the positive is the one who gets tested all the time LOL. We mask everywhere, we mostly on line shop. I do make a weekly run to the Pig for items, maybe once a month to Menards of Fleet Farm. I have eaten in a restaurant once in the last 9 months. For a period we were doing Church online, now we are back to in person, but masks are virtually required and the capacity of attendance is 20% at the busiest service. Every other pew is roped off, people don't hang around and socialize afterwards, they pretty much just leave. I do attend 4 socially distanced church meetings a month in person and I go to a 12 person socially distanced Bible Class twice a month. We end up seeing our sons maybe twice a month and my parents twice a month. What we have done is now allow our sons to see my parents, so my parents contact is limited to me, my wife my daughter and my sister. If we have an exposure or do something risky, we don't see my parents for 2 weeks. For work I do end up maybe twice a week dealing with customers in person, but socially distanced and masked. I wear a mask at work when I talk to fellow employees, who pretty much have stopped wearing masks. That's basically my life right now. I never really looked at myself as one who was taking un-necessary risks. Maybe I am? I suppose seeing my parents is.....Interesting to ponder on it, thanks for encouraging me to do a self evaluation.

I went for the antibody test and was told that if my exposure had not been in the prior 10-12 weeks, the test would not pick it up. There are undoubtedly many who feel that they may have had the virus in Q1 2020, but no way to conclusively determine.

[Timothy A]

You could consider doing two things:
- get an antibody test; maybe you had it, were asymptomatic and now have antibodies
- stop tempting fate, and take more and better precautions

Last January my wife, youngest son and his girlfriend all had a covid like illness except for the loosing taste thing. We suspect it was covid. Just about a year ago my parents were hospitalized with what was called pneumonia. My Dad's symptoms were strange in that he had some cognitive fogginess that is a symptom of covid, along with low oxygen. My Mom's was just straight up low oxygen. My daughter and myself have had no illness that could be covid over the last 12 months. My wife and I have discussed getting the antibody test.

Tempting fate.....Yes the Christmas cookie event was a risk, though the one who got the positive is the one who gets tested all the time LOL. We mask everywhere, we mostly on line shop. I do make a weekly run to the Pig for items, maybe once a month to Menards of Fleet Farm. I have eaten in a restaurant once in the last 9 months. For a period we were doing Church online, now we are back to in person, but masks are virtually required and the capacity of attendance is 20% at the busiest service. Every other pew is roped off, people don't hang around and socialize afterwards, they pretty much just leave. I do attend 4 socially distanced church meetings a month in person and I go to a 12 person socially distanced Bible Class twice a month. We end up seeing our sons maybe twice a month and my parents twice a month. What we have done is now allow our sons to see my parents, so my parents contact is limited to me, my wife my daughter and my sister. If we have an exposure or do something risky, we don't see my parents for 2 weeks. For work I do end up maybe twice a week dealing with customers in person, but socially distanced and masked. I wear a mask at work when I talk to fellow employees, who pretty much have stopped wearing masks. That's basically my life right now. I never really looked at myself as one who was taking un-necessary risks. Maybe I am? I suppose seeing my parents is.....Interesting to ponder on it, thanks for encouraging me to do a self evaluation.

[robertearle]

So I have been in 2 instances now where multiple people in my group were exposed to a person within 1-3 days of them testing positive and no one but the sick person tested positive. I don't think anyone truly understands who this thing works.

You could consider doing two things:
- get an antibody test; maybe you had it, were asymptomatic and now have antibodies
- stop tempting fate, and take more and better precautions

[ARM]

And the death rate is down 50% from the start as we develop and fine tune treatments.

I wonder how much is improved treatment and how much is increased testing of people who didn't experience symptoms.

[Timothy A]

So we had a Christmas cookie decorating event a week ago. Me, the wife, daughter, 2 sons and 2 girlfriends and my sister. The day after the girlfriend of the son who already had it felt bad, got a positive test. No one else tested positive. We were together in a small apartment kitchen/livingroom for close to 4 hours. What baffles me more is when my son had it she never got it. She works in an assisted living place and gets tested 3-4 times a week. So she didn't get it from a guy who she shares spit with, she got it from somewhere else?!?!

So I have been in 2 instances now where multiple people in my group were exposed to a person within 1-3 days of them testing positive and no one but the sick person tested positive. I don't think anyone truly understands who this thing works.

And the death rate is down 50% from the start as we develop and fine tune treatments.

[DonaldD]

Should I go to the dentist for a dental cleaning during the COVID-19 outbreak?
I'm wondering if people are canceling their routine doctor's appointments and tests to avoid possible exposure to the virus, until things calm down a bit.
I have scheduled appointments for knee cortisone shots, a mammogram, an eye exam and the dentist.
I'm in my mid 60's with a few health issues that many have--hypertension and AFib but would prefer not being in medical settings or in medical office buildings that are attached to hospitals right now.
I think waiting, unless its an emergency is prudent.
Anyone else postponing routine appointments for a while?
Thanks for weighing in!

Yes, if you are a healthy individual showing no signs or symptoms of COVID-19, and it is time for you to have your scheduled six-month dental checkup and cleaning, we encourage you to stick to your appointment. Dental cleanings are an essential part of maintaining good oral health and preventing gum disease and cavities. The CDC reports that gum disease affects nearly half of adults in the U.S. And, there are severe health risks associated with poor oral health, including an increased risk of heart disease, stroke, diabetes, and even cognitive decline that leads to Alzheimer’s. While the outbreak of COVID-19 may have people panicking, the health threats associated with poor oral health are just as serious. Continue with your cleaning appointments to minimize your risk of developing gum disease. I personally had a problem and only new dental bridges might help so I had to visit my dentist

[Timothy A]

Should I go to the dentist for a dental cleaning during the COVID-19 outbreak?
I'm wondering if people are canceling their routine doctor's appointments and tests to avoid possible exposure to the virus, until things calm down a bit.
I have scheduled appointments for knee cortisone shots, a mammogram, an eye exam and the dentist.
I'm in my mid 60's with a few health issues that many have--hypertension and AFib but would prefer not being in medical settings or in medical office buildings that are attached to hospitals right now.
I think waiting, unless its an emergency is prudent.
Anyone else postponing routine appointments for a while?
Thanks for weighing in!

I'm not a doctor and I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but here's my .02 worth. The older you are the more likely you are to have a hard time dealing with it if you get it. People wear masks and social distance and still get it. I would only do what you feel is totally essential to your long term well being. I'm a guy but I would not skip the mammogram, that C thing is not something to be trifled with.

[BirdPiano]

Should I go to the dentist for a dental cleaning during the COVID-19 outbreak?
I'm wondering if people are canceling their routine doctor's appointments and tests to avoid possible exposure to the virus, until things calm down a bit.
I have scheduled appointments for knee cortisone shots, a mammogram, an eye exam and the dentist.
I'm in my mid 60's with a few health issues that many have--hypertension and AFib but would prefer not being in medical settings or in medical office buildings that are attached to hospitals right now.
I think waiting, unless its an emergency is prudent.
Anyone else postponing routine appointments for a while?
Thanks for weighing in!

[TinyViking]

A simple search shows this article was retracted. You might have also considered the source in the first place. This "brave" student does not study disease nor medicine, she's an economist. The study was not peer-reviewed and it was published in a student newspaper. As someone in the healthcare field, I am seeing first-hand the ramifications of this disease on individual and collective health. To deny its impact on our families, our communities, and our society is incredibly selfish and destructive.

Here is a link to the rationale for the retraction: https://www.jhunewsletter.com/articl...ue-to-covid-19

[Blackbeard]

I give up. You’ve gone down too many rabbit holes for me to respond to and clearly believe many, many individuals, companies and agencies are conspiring to create an imaginary pandemic for a variety of reasons. Just, please, wear a mask, keep your distance and wash your hands.

"Clearly believe...imaginary pandemic"???.

You don't seem to be paying attention. When did I claim that it was imaginary? You are making assumptions that are clearly false because that is not what I think. But maybe you are referring to the "official" numbers as opposed to the existence of the virus itself. Not quite sure what you meant....maybe you aren't either.

Don't you think that any of us, regardless of whether or not we have family or friends that we are concerned about, owe it to ourselves to get as clear a picture as is possible of what the exact situation really is? Wouldn't we be able to help ourselves and others that we care about, in one way or another, if our understanding was greater...if it was more accurate? That can only happen by our investing time and effort to attempt to educate ourselves. I would guess that your attitude would be somewhat different if you had actually read/listened to all the items that I posted. At the very least I would think that you wouldn't be making these wild assumptions.


And you are right, in a way, about too many rabbit holes, because this is a multi faceted issue. I didn't create it. I'm just trying to understand it as accurately as possible. But virtue signaling in the dark doesn't do anyone any good. In fact it is counter productive.


Regardless, I came here today to post an article that some might find helpful...possibly even yourself.

It is a study by a brave student and is related to the comment that I made in a previous post to you about the public comments made back in Feb/Mar by the CDC to the doctors in the US. The results of the study are entirely consistent with the point that I was making about those CDC comments. So, they come as no surprise to me other than why it took so long for anyone to pay any attention to what the possible consequences would be to those comments/instructions from the CDC.

I suggest going back and reading what I previously posted about the CDC comments before reading this article/study. It will allow you to get the most out of it.


https://web.archive.org/web/20201122...ue-to-covid-19

[top cheese]

Maine stopping now until Dec 8

[MAHOCKEY FAN]

Northeastern.....stopping winter sports until DEC 18

[Offsides Guy]

If high school sports are paused there almost certainly will immediately be questions about college sports, particularly at the state's public institutions, including the University of Minnesota. There is a lot of money at stake for the Gopher football team so I expect them to play this weekend but any other sport, including, obviously, women's hockey, seems quite a bit less likely.

Gov Walz was asked about college and pro sports being allowed to continue and he said the reason they can is they have the resources to be testing the athletes regularly which HS and youth sports programs don't have.