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  • Reddington
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    Originally posted by Offsides Guy View Post
    My son just got good news from Montana State. Fall semester now runs Aug 17 to Thanksgiving then the students are off until Jan 10 when 2nd semester will start. Evidently the school is trying to avoid the heart of flu season and possibly the 2nd COVID season. I’m keeping my eyes out for other schools doing this as well. Bad news is Harvard Med School has announced Fall semester will be online.

    I’m gonna focus on the positive!
    Interesting on Montana State and Harvard.


    Oh Nooo. Bowling Green just dropped baseball, following Akron who dropped three sports.
    Last edited by Reddington; 05-15-2020, 02:18 PM.

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  • Offsides Guy
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    Originally posted by Offsides Guy View Post
    The other reality is no one knows yet if getting and surviving COVID gives you any lengthy immunity. I actually just had an antibodies test because I was sick with all the symptoms back in late December (test results not in yet) and my doctor made a point of telling me a positive test does not mean anything relating to immunity. She said people are studying this but, unfortunately, a positive antibodies test today does not mean I can relax things like social distancing, face covering, etc.

    My hope is the experts can determine this by the start of the school year so they could test players and ID who on the team has immunity.
    My son just got good news from Montana State. Fall semester now runs Aug 17 to Thanksgiving then the students are off until Jan 10 when 2nd semester will start. Evidently the school is trying to avoid the heart of flu season and possibly the 2nd COVID season. I’m keeping my eyes out for other schools doing this as well. Bad news is Harvard Med School has announced Fall semester will be online.

    I’m gonna focus on the positive!

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  • Reddington
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    Originally posted by KTDC View Post
    Your post seems to imply this is all about politics.

    But actually it is possible that the virus itself might have something to say about what is happening during the next school year.
    I said a month ago look to the Eastern Seaboard beaches as an indicator on college football. If the Beaches are not open, there would definitely not be college football.

    And I will say it again, if there is no college football, there will be no sports. My view on this has nothing really to do with politics.

    On another note, I would be interested in seeing data from Spring Breakers and Mardi Gras participants between 17-25 on fatality rate and etc from the virus.

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  • Offsides Guy
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    Re: Coronavirus

    Originally posted by Reddington View Post
    Jersey Shore is opening for Memorial Day Weekend. As I say even Democrats have beach houses. I'll take that as a positive. Both Dems and Republicans have college aged kids and lots of Dems work at Universities. How far will Governors take this. The Jersey Gov blinked which I think is a good sign for college sports.
    And the WI Supreme Court overruled their Gov's Stay-At-Home order and within hours several bars around the state were busy again with few safety/health adjustments. Tells me the Badgers will play, not worry about sanitizing anything and will fly commercial to all their games even when they could take a bus. Anyone tries to restrict them will simply be taken to court and overruled. Let the paint thinner flow! LOL!

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  • KTDC
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    Re: Coronavirus

    Originally posted by Reddington View Post
    Jersey Shore is opening for Memorial Day Weekend. As I say even Democrats have beach houses. I'll take that as a positive. Both Dems and Republicans have college aged kids and lots of Dems work at Universities. How far will Governors take this. The Jersey Gov blinked which I think is a good sign for college sports.
    Your post seems to imply this is all about politics.

    But actually it is possible that the virus itself might have something to say about what is happening during the next school year.

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  • Reddington
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    Jersey Shore is opening for Memorial Day Weekend. As I say even Democrats have beach houses. I'll take that as a positive. Both Dems and Republicans have college aged kids and lots of Dems work at Universities. How far will Governors take this? The Jersey Gov blinked which I think is a good sign for college sports.
    Last edited by Reddington; 05-15-2020, 09:41 AM.

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  • FiveHoleFrenzy
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    Re: Coronavirus

    Clear and critical thinking needed...You're spidey senses should be tingling.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...t-tracing.html

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  • EMPTYNETTER
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    Good News...I think we will start to see more schools following this path in the coming weeks.
    https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/n...ents-back.html

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  • Offsides Guy
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    Re: Coronavirus

    Originally posted by robertearle View Post
    There were studies done on people who had been infected with SARS that showed their antibodies remained measureable for 12 or 18 or 24 months (I don't recall exactly, but on that order). SARS was caused by a similar coronavirus, so it is reasonable to assume that COVID antibodies will be around for a similar time period.
    I certainly hope immunity turns out to be the case!

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  • robertearle
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    Originally posted by Rightnut View Post
    A study came out of BU last week confirming that antibodies give immunity at least in the short term. Since this hasn’t been around long enough to know anything long term, that’s about as good as we will get.
    There were studies done on people who had been infected with SARS that showed their antibodies remained measureable for 12 or 18 or 24 months (I don't recall exactly, but on that order). SARS was caused by a similar coronavirus, so it is reasonable to assume that COVID antibodies will be around for a similar time period.

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  • Rightnut
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    Originally posted by Offsides Guy View Post
    The other reality is no one knows yet if getting and surviving COVID gives you any lengthy immunity. I actually just had an antibodies test because I was sick with all the symptoms back in late December (test results not in yet) and my doctor made a point of telling me a positive test does not mean anything relating to immunity. She said people are studying this but, unfortunately, a positive antibodies test today does not mean I can relax things like social distancing, face covering, etc.

    My hope is the experts can determine this by the start of the school year so they could test players and ID who on the team has immunity.
    A study came out of BU last week confirming that antibodies give immunity at least in the short term. Since this hasn’t been around long enough to know anything long term, that’s about as good as we will get.

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  • Offsides Guy
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    Re: Coronavirus

    Originally posted by robertearle View Post
    Just so people understand what tests do what: the test in that article (if I am reading it correctly) only tests for the 'long term' IgG antibody. IgG antibodies form days or even weeks after symptoms appear; 7 to 10 days after symptoms, meaning maybe as long as two weeks after infection. It does not test for IgM antibodies, which form more quickly. And neither type of antibodies form - at least to any detectable level - during the critical first few days when a person is pre-symptomatic but can still be infecting others. To know that, you have to take the RNA detecting "swab test", and that (unless you work at the White House, apparently) can take days to get results.

    So, if the idea is to find out which players had COVID weeks and months ago (and are presumably now carrying some level of immunity), an IgG antibody test is fine. But if you want to know what players are infected right now and are a risk to spreading the virus to other players or the other team, the RNA swab test is necessary.

    (And, as I have said before, until there is a plan as to what to do when a player tests positive for active COVID two days before a game, I am not at all optimistic about 'sports' being played in any meaningful way.)
    The other reality is no one knows yet if getting and surviving COVID gives you any lengthy immunity. I actually just had an antibodies test because I was sick with all the symptoms back in late December (test results not in yet) and my doctor made a point of telling me a positive test does not mean anything relating to immunity. She said people are studying this but, unfortunately, a positive antibodies test today does not mean I can relax things like social distancing, face covering, etc.

    My hope is the experts can determine this by the start of the school year so they could test players and ID who on the team has immunity.

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  • robertearle
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    Re: Coronavirus

    Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
    Instead of deaths, how about percent of tests that are positive? That will tell us if the spread is lessening. Number of deaths tell us nothing.
    All the different numbers - new cases, active cases, number hospitalized, test rates - tell you something; no one number tells you everything you want and need to know.

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  • robertearle
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    Re: Coronavirus

    Originally posted by Rightnut View Post
    Just so people understand what tests do what: the test in that article (if I am reading it correctly) only tests for the 'long term' IgG antibody. IgG antibodies form days or even weeks after symptoms appear; 7 to 10 days after symptoms, meaning maybe as long as two weeks after infection. It does not test for IgM antibodies, which form more quickly. And neither type of antibodies form - at least to any detectable level - during the critical first few days when a person is pre-symptomatic but can still be infecting others. To know that, you have to take the RNA detecting "swab test", and that (unless you work at the White House, apparently) can take days to get results.

    So, if the idea is to find out which players had COVID weeks and months ago (and are presumably now carrying some level of immunity), an IgG antibody test is fine. But if you want to know what players are infected right now and are a risk to spreading the virus to other players or the other team, the RNA swab test is necessary.

    (And, as I have said before, until there is a plan as to what to do when a player tests positive for active COVID two days before a game, I am not at all optimistic about 'sports' being played in any meaningful way.)

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  • Timothy A
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    Re: Coronavirus

    Originally posted by Rightnut View Post
    I probably should have put that at the end of my statement! Thank you for teeing that up. Gotta shake things up a bit. But its bad in California. Gov. Grewsome said that counties can't get to the next stage of reopening (dine in restaurants etc) until a county has 14 days in a row of no Covid deaths. .
    Instead of deaths, how about percent of tests that are positive? That will tell us if the spread is lessening. Number of deaths tell us nothing.

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