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  • #31
    https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5998527?__t...mpression=true

    Donna Spencer with reaction from Canadians

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Lindsay View Post
      https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5998527?__t...mpression=true

      Donna Spencer with reaction from Canadians
      The people who posted comments for the most part are very unsympathetic towards the players. Canada has handled this covid thing with the fist of Stalin and it hasn't dome them any good, that is for sure. They have destroyed their resort industry and they don't at all seem bothered by it.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

        Canada has handled this covid thing with the fist of Stalin and it hasn't dome them any good, that is for sure. They have destroyed their resort industry and they don't at all seem bothered by it.
        Per CNNhealth:
        Doses administered per 100 people
        USA 65, Canada 30

        https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021...-vaccinations/
        Minnesota Golden Gopher Hockey

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        • #34
          Emily Kaplan from ESPN:

          https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/...ships-canceled

          Global news: Saulnier interview
          https://www.google.com/amp/s/globaln...cellation/amp/


          Sorry for such a depressing thread! these quotes from Coyne, Saulnier et al are just so revealing into how they feel, and they are hitting on the variety of issues ways in which this hurts.

          Darren Dreger of TSN has reported that Finland, US and other cities in Canada have reached out about hosting. We’ll see what happens.

          when they finally get this tourney played it will be the 20th iteration of the tourney. First was played back in 1990. Canada has 10 golds, and US 9.... can’t wait to watch when they finally get this thing going. One thing about women’s hockey, it will never go away, the passion and drive of the players, the joy at playing women’s hockey has literally been their since women played back in 1892 or whatever it was. I hope the players take all the time they need to process this hurt. For me, I am reminded to keep supporting this sport in the ways I can, and just keep cheering for them.





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          • #35
            USA Hockey very quickly moved the U18 mens from Michigan to Texas to ensure it was going to happen. I don't know how things are going in Finland, but if the IIHF wants to guarantee this happens, move to a US state that is not in perpetual lock down mode. Aug 20-30th seems like the new target date.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Cornholio View Post
              USA Hockey very quickly moved the U18 mens from Michigan to Texas to ensure it was going to happen. I don't know how things are going in Finland, but if the IIHF wants to guarantee this happens, move to a US state that is not in perpetual lock down mode. Aug 20-30th seems like the new target date.
              How about "Move to a state that has coronavirus under control", rather than just a state that prefers not to acknowledge that it exists?

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              • #37
                Not to turn this into a (yet another) covid thread, but most honest presentation of the data shows very little correlation to covid rates / cases vrs 'how hard' of a lockdown a state/area is in. Michigan right now has been one of the strictest lockdown states for the past year and currently has one of highest rates. California, another strict lock down has one of the lowest rates currently. New York, strict lockdown high rates. Texas, fully open with no mask mandate, lower rates. Etc. In short, this has become way too political with the 'science' being however the data can be constructed to fit ones plans. Back to the thread, women's hockey is just not that important enough to the 'health' officials in Nova Scotia to warrant the 'risk'. If this was a men's tournament it would be held (as proven with the U20 tournament back when rates were higher and no vax, etc.).

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                • #38
                  If the players, coaches, officials and rink personnel are all shot up, play the freaking games.
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                  Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
                  "Baggot says Hughes and Rockwood are centering the top two lines...
                  Timothy A --> Great hockey mind... Or Greatest hockey mind?!?"

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                  • #39
                    Despite rising cases there, still would have been safer there than most places. Especially given the bubble. Just no political will as Cornholio said. Political will or someone powerful who cares makes all the difference.

                    In the book “Offside” by Rhonda Leeman Taylor, Taylor explains that when she organized the 1982 National Women’s Tournament in Canada (it’s first ever), when she needed money and help she went to Maureen Clark, a women who had grown up playing girls hockey. . Clark was married to Joe Clark, then leader of the Federal opposition, and future brief prime minister. Anyway Maureen Clark wrote a letter to Abby Hoffman who was a director of Sport Canada at the time (first female to hold the role) asking for support for this tournament. Hoffman got on board and helped the tourney organizers get a grant from Sport Canada and even more important: sanctioning from CAHA (now Hockey Canada) that CAHA did not want to provide. With sanctioning and money they pulled off the tournament and it’s the sort of thing that helped hockey take a big stride towards getting that first ever IIHF Womens Worlds in 1990.

                    I believe Hockey Canada and IIHF weren’t the problem in this latest debacle, but when the event needed a Maureen Clark or an Abby Hoffman, in this go round the politician in question wasn’t going to go to bat for them and here we are. The scarcity of powerful people who will step up for Canada’s women is a huge huge problem for elite women’s hockey in Canada right now imo. Even if we give NS a pass, if you pan out as Jenner said, where was the support for the PW all year? Why didn’t the women play. It has to be so concerning for the women’s side of Hockey Canada.

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                    • #40
                      https://jhanhky.substack.com/p/the-s...f-alina-muller

                      Hockey article by Jack Han about Alina Mueller. Ties in the women’s worlds issue at the end of the article.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Cornholio View Post
                        Not to turn this into a (yet another) covid thread, but most honest presentation of the data shows very little correlation to covid rates / cases vrs 'how hard' of a lockdown a state/area is in. Michigan right now has been one of the strictest lockdown states for the past year and currently has one of highest rates. California, another strict lock down has one of the lowest rates currently. New York, strict lockdown high rates. Texas, fully open with no mask mandate, lower rates. Etc. In short, this has become way too political with the 'science' being however the data can be constructed to fit ones plans. Back to the thread, women's hockey is just not that important enough to the 'health' officials in Nova Scotia to warrant the 'risk'. If this was a men's tournament it would be held (as proven with the U20 tournament back when rates were higher and no vax, etc.).
                        My dad's side of the family resides in Michigan and they're of the opinion it's covid situation is a train wreck thanks to Governor Gretchen's handling of it. Only repeating their opinions as I don't live there to know firsthand.

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                        • #42
                          To highlight the impact of will - USA Hockey Youth Nationals is still happening. Tier 1 girls in Pennsylvania, Tier 2 girls Colorado. High school girls just finished up in Nebraska. I don't know how it works in Canada but did any of the youth leagues play? It is crazy to think that, without 'protocols', without a 'bubble' that the youth national tournaments can be held safely while the biggest event of the year for the women apparently cannot.

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                          • #43
                            Also to be fair - this is not just a Canada issue. The Ivy League has shown no spine or will either in terms of athletics. Most colleges look like they will try to hold in person classes next fall as I guess the pocketbook has been hit hard but still no guarantee of a fall season in the Ivy league, and if if one does happen, what format it will look like.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Lindsay View Post
                              Emily Kaplan from ESPN:

                              ...Darren Dreger of TSN has reported that Finland, US and other cities in Canada have reached out about hosting...
                              It boggles my mind that the IIHF didn't have a fallback plan to move the tournament to a US venue if that became necessary. And that the national governing bodies (especially USA Hockey) all stood idly by while all of the tournament eggs were placed in the Canadian basket. A move from Nova Scotia to any of a number of venues in Maine or elsewhere in New England could have easily been accommodated IMO. With few or no fans allowed, there would have been no shortage of college or local arenas that would have filled the bill.

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                              • #45
                                Yes there was youth hockey in some places.
                                https://hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/news/2...ns-safety-reps

                                Some guys leagues weren’t so lucky. OHL didn’t play, Nova Scotia QMJHL teams had to drop out of playoffs I think. Calgary flames had a positive test on Friday, still played Friday night. So it’s all over the map.

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