2021 World Championships

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

Tough day for the US overall but #3 and #4 for the US...Yikes.

#3 really left her teammate (#5) in a tough spot when she did the bc default which is to always pinch in from the point. Left #5 to contend with a Canada 2 on 1 and then didn't hustle back to tie up the 2nd player on the 2 on 1 who deposited the rebound into the back of the net.

#4 looked a little more like deer in the headlights than the hype we heard before the step up in competition with Canada.

[Xcfire]

The 2 top geographic areas to produce division 1 women hockey players
Ontario 176
Minnesota 145



https://cdn1.sportngin.com/attachmen...lege_stats.pdf

[Cornholio]

Some parent had way too much time on his/her hand and did a more recent analysis:
https://www.champs.app/2020/10/5-ins...ockey-commits/

[Xcfire]

Some parent had way too much time on his/her hand and did a more recent analysis:
https://www.champs.app/2020/10/5-ins...ockey-commits/

Obviously I think both websites are not an accurate view of current players to bad NCAA doesn’t publish the real #s
college commitment page only gets 1/2 the players if you compare rosters to commit
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[Steamboat]

Some parent had way too much time on his/her hand and did a more recent analysis:
https://www.champs.app/2020/10/5-ins...ockey-commits/

That is actually a pretty impressive presentation. I am not sure what the author does besides being a hockey parent, but they have certainly done the homework for the next stage of their child's development.

[Lindsay]

Thinking about the rematch and I think the good news for the Americans is that there is no way that was the best they have. Rewatched the 5 goals against and here are my observations :

1- Should Joel Johnson yell at the refs a bit more?. I think there is a time and place for it. Not Pasi M levels of yelling or anything, just something. Prior to Canada’s first goal, Zumwinkle got hauled down by Thompson shortly after a zone exit....no call, play continued and eventually Canada got Filliers line on the ice and their first goal.

2 - there were 16 skaters on the US that averaged shift lengths of 50 seconds or higher. need to address that especially with the young ones. Canada had not one skater with an average that high. Some of this is due to Canada’s forecheck but not all. On the second goal Curl, Compher and Zumwinkle had the puck in the offensive zone. Instead of peeling off and getting the Decker line out there, they let Daoust break out, approach the offensive zone blue line, do a massive circle (zum stuck with her but by this point her linemates
were changing so when Daoust rolled off Zum she was free to give a nice feed to wide open Clark on the neutral zone wall. The forwards had left the building so Bozek challenged Clark but didn’t touch her, which allowed Clark to feed the puck to Fast who took 3 shots on net, eventually scoring a goal. Harvey should have been beating the heck out of Fast but as someone else said, a bit more deer in head lights this game. Decker, coyne, and Knight took the minus on that but had no chance whatsoever to remedy anything by the time they got on the ice. Even when Bozek arrived on the scene where Fast was hacking away, no physicality, so unlike her.


3- I thought a key to this game was going to be the vets keeping things steady. They struggled tho. Reality is a bunch of young players and a new head coach. there’s going to be some nerves and the superstar vets need to take charge. On the first Rattray goal, Canada’s third goal, it was Deckers line and Keller and Barnes on the ice with the puck in Canada’s zone. Barnes pinched to help Coyne on the wall, maybe she had to since both Fast and Rattray were closing in on Coyne, but you also expect Coyne to get that puck fully in the zone on a zone entry. No question that if this team expects to win gold that line needs to be better against Canada. They still got more shots than any other line, historically they are amazing and I assume they’ll be better next game.

4- 4th goal was 18 27 and 13 getting victimized again. Canada’s third line penned them in the zone and then they (and Barnes and Harvey) had to deal with Canada’s first line. I don’t know how you handle Jenner on the wall behind the net when you’re fresh, let alone when you are exhausted.

5- it was Jenner winning a puck on the wall AGAIN on the pk, and feeding Nurse who skated down the ice and sniped on a cold Hensley. Jenner was a factor in 3 goals I think.

Nothing the US can do but get back to work. Of the new players I like Roque, Murphy, Zumwinkle. As exciting as the future might be for Harvey, Dunne and Harmon have a ton more experience. Harvey was third in ice time the other day among defenders. Maybe due to not being able to get off the ice but that surprised me considering she was listed as 7th d.

2 more games until they might meet again. Having witnessed this, and it was so needed, its going to be more painful now if Canada does not win gold. For now though the quarters. Waiting to see if Poulin is back, and what Johnson tries with his lines.

[MrOpinion]

"Come on man"
They simply got their *** kicked !

[Lindsay]

"Come on man"
They simply got their *** kicked !

What’s your point?

[Sieve1]

Thinking about the rematch and I think the good news for the Americans is that there is no way that was the best they have. Rewatched the 5 goals against and here are my observations :

1- Should Joel Johnson yell at the refs a bit more?. I think there is a time and place for it. Not Pasi M levels of yelling or anything, just something. Prior to Canada’s first goal, Zumwinkle got hauled down by Thompson shortly after a zone exit....no call, play continued and eventually Canada got Filliers line on the ice and their first goal.

2 - there were 16 skaters on the US that averaged shift lengths of 50 seconds or higher. need to address that especially with the young ones. Canada had not one skater with an average that high. Some of this is due to Canada’s forecheck but not all. On the second goal Curl, Compher and Zumwinkle had the puck in the offensive zone. Instead of peeling off and getting the Decker line out there, they let Daoust break out, approach the offensive zone blue line, do a massive circle (zum stuck with her but by this point her linemates
were changing so when Daoust rolled off Zum she was free to give a nice feed to wide open Clark on the neutral zone wall. The forwards had left the building so Bozek challenged Clark but didn’t touch her, which allowed Clark to feed the puck to Fast who took 3 shots on net, eventually scoring a goal. Harvey should have been beating the heck out of Fast but as someone else said, a bit more deer in head lights this game. Decker, coyne, and Knight took the minus on that but had no chance whatsoever to remedy anything by the time they got on the ice. Even when Bozek arrived on the scene where Fast was hacking away, no physicality, so unlike her.


3- I thought a key to this game was going to be the vets keeping things steady. They struggled tho. Reality is a bunch of young players and a new head coach. there’s going to be some nerves and the superstar vets need to take charge. On the first Rattray goal, Canada’s third goal, it was Deckers line and Keller and Barnes on the ice with the puck in Canada’s zone. Barnes pinched to help Coyne on the wall, maybe she had to since both Fast and Rattray were closing in on Coyne, but you also expect Coyne to get that puck fully in the zone on a zone entry. No question that if this team expects to win gold that line needs to be better against Canada. They still got more shots than any other line, historically they are amazing and I assume they’ll be better next game.

4- 4th goal was 18 27 and 13 getting victimized again. Canada’s third line penned them in the zone and then they (and Barnes and Harvey) had to deal with Canada’s first line. I don’t know how you handle Jenner on the wall behind the net when you’re fresh, let alone when you are exhausted.

5- it was Jenner winning a puck on the wall AGAIN on the pk, and feeding Nurse who skated down the ice and sniped on a cold Hensley. Jenner was a factor in 3 goals I think.

Nothing the US can do but get back to work. Of the new players I like Roque, Murphy, Zumwinkle. As exciting as the future might be for Harvey, Dunne and Harmon have a ton more experience. Harvey was third in ice time the other day among defenders. Maybe due to not being able to get off the ice but that surprised me considering she was listed as 7th d.

2 more games until they might meet again. Having witnessed this, and it was so needed, its going to be more painful now if Canada does not win gold. For now though the quarters. Waiting to see if Poulin is back, and what Johnson tries with his lines.

Is it time to address the elephant in the room...USA goaltending? Hindsight is 20/20 but I think a couple of those goals could’ve been stopped. Yes, Canada was absolutely outplaying USA, but goalies have to raise their games vs Canada if they’re going to stay in the game. On the other hand, I think ARD had some good saves (and a lucky paddle) but had the advantage of not challenged nearly as much as Cavallini and Hensley. Maybe USA goalies suffered from not being challenged in the first couple of games, but that’s nothing new. Bottom line is that every facet of USA’s game needs to improve the next time they play Canada.

[Lindsay]

Is it time to address the elephant in the room...USA goaltending? Hindsight is 20/20 but I think a couple of those goals could’ve been stopped. Yes, Canada was absolutely outplaying USA, but goalies have to raise their games vs Canada if they’re going to stay in the game. On the other hand, I think ARD had some good saves (and a lucky paddle) but had the advantage of not challenged nearly as much as Cavallini and Hensley. Maybe USA goalies suffered from not being challenged in the first couple of games, but that’s nothing new. Bottom line is that every facet of USA’s game needs to improve the next time they play Canada.

would you consider putting Frankel in net or is it too late in the tourney to do that? ARD came into the last game with 78% tourney save percentage so I haven’t been too focused on the US goalies, haha.

[Cornholio]

Has Japan ever scored against the US? I mean this game is not in doubt due to the offensive firepower of the US, but they already gave up 2 to the Japanese???

[D2D]

Has Japan ever scored against the US? I mean this game is not in doubt due to the offensive firepower of the US, but they already gave up 2 to the Japanese???

According to what they said on the broadcast those were Japan's first ever goals scored on the U.S. in three prior Worlds meetings.

[D2D]

Any word on Kelly Pannek? Unfortunately she took a very hard shot to her head off the stick of one of her teammates and to the best of my knowledge did not see any icetime the rest of the way. Sure hope she's OK.

[Lindsay]

https://www.theicegarden.com/platfor...mpression=true

on the historic goals by Japan, including gifs of the goals

[Lindsay]

Finland defeated Czech 1-0, despite being outshot so semis are Canada Switzerland, and US Finland.

On US’ goals against yesterday one was a bad line change. I don’t know what happened on the other but Keller was the 5th skater back into the zone while Scamurra tried to play defense. Lacey Eden, a 4th line rookie, averaging 59 second shifts (along with 12 others over 50 seconds)! Not to take anything away from Canada’s butt kicking the other day, but the US is making some simple mistakes, that are uncharacteristic of them.

Nice to see Roque get an assist yesterday. On to Finland.