Holy mackerel M Webster. That has to be shocking to more than just me.
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Originally posted by Reddington View PostHoly mackerel M Webster. That has to be shocking to more than just me.
With Olympians coming back and freshmen coming in, there could be a pretty significant "squeeze" on available scholarship dollars at Wisconsin. Maybe not so surprising that someone didn't want to "take a pay cut" when they don't have to.
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Originally posted by robertearle View Post
Yeah, but then again, maybe not.
With Olympians coming back and freshmen coming in, there could be a pretty significant "squeeze" on available scholarship dollars at Wisconsin. Maybe not so surprising that someone didn't want to "take a pay cut" when they don't have to.
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Originally posted by Sieve1 View Post
There were rumors. Unfortunately when someone commits in 8th grade maybe reality just can’t live up to expectations. The family doesn’t need scholarship money, but a drop in playing time could be a factor.
Or she could have reasons entirely unrelated to hockey. At the end of the day it is "college student decides to change schools". And that happens all the time.
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Originally posted by Sieve1 View Post
There were rumors. Unfortunately when someone commits in 8th grade maybe reality just can’t live up to expectations. The family doesn’t need scholarship money, but a drop in playing time could be a factor.
There's no way she was going to see a drop in PT with all the Fr forwards. No way.
I hope she goes to BC. I'm appreciative of our time with Wattage.Wisconsin Hockey: 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 WE WANT MORE!
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Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
"Baggot says Hughes and Rockwood are centering the top two lines...
Timothy A --> Great hockey mind... Or Greatest hockey mind?!?"
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Originally posted by robertearle View Post
She and O'Brien were truly third line during 2020-21, but played so well during the NCAAs that people tend to forget that. Last year they were first line. With Eden and Curl and Compher, the guess would be they'll be second line this year. I don't see first vs second that big a deal at UW, but of course someone else might disagree.
Or she could have reasons entirely unrelated to hockey. At the end of the day it is "college student decides to change schools". And that happens all the time.
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Originally posted by robertearle View PostShe and O'Brien were truly third line during 2020-21, but played so well during the NCAAs that people tend to forget that. Last year they were first line. With Eden and Curl and Compher, the guess would be they'll be second line this year. I don't see first vs second that big a deal at UW, but of course someone else might disagree.
Webster, O'Brien, and Watts lit it up to start the season against weaker competition. As good as their season was, they weren't able to maintain similar production over the second half in general, and in particular against top competition. That said, I don't see O'Brien suddenly being regarded as a 2nd-line player. The more likely scenario is that UW winds up with at least two 1st lines, one of which has to be listed higher than the other on the sheet.
Missing a season for the Olympics doesn't automatically make someone better than somebody who stayed in college. Curl is a nice player, and I thought so from the first time I saw her playing with the U-18s. Still as a rival, SS is the player who worries me most, because she contributes in so many ways.
If there was a team that was configured such that it could lose a Webster and survive it just fine, it's likely yours.
"... And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;" -- Rudyard Kipling
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Sign Compher and Webster enters the portal it might be that simple. Perhaps it is deeper than that with a perceived Olympic snub and if your coach has you behind Olympic players you may think you are better off playing against them. Or maybe I'm not going to the Olympics, I need to get my education paid for kind of like the girl who played for Minnesota that is going to play in Canada this year. That girl probably paid for three years of out of state tuition at Minnesota and had two years paid for. That is complete speculation on my part. Yet, it could be just playing time - I'm not on first line and first pp, how am I going to shine. Yes, she has notoriety as an 8th grade commit.
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Originally posted by Reddington View PostSign Compher and Webster enters the portal it might be that simple. Perhaps it is deeper than that with a perceived Olympic snub and if your coach has you behind Olympic players you may think you are better off playing against them. Or maybe I'm not going to the Olympics, I need to get my education paid for kind of like the girl who played for Minnesota that is going to play in Canada this year. That girl probably paid for three years of out of state tuition at Minnesota and had two years paid for. That is complete speculation on my part. Yet, it could be just playing time - I'm not on first line and first pp, how am I going to shine. Yes, she has notoriety as an 8th grade commit.
And committing in the 8th grade makes her leaving more devastating as I had been drooling over her (and O'B) for FIVE years (Ava McNaughton is in the same classification). And on top of that, her first year I didn't even get to see her play in person.
Someone over in the WI thread posted she was asked to leave. I can't even comprehend the circumstances that would lead to that. It would have to be something horrible for that to happen. She was never benched for any indiscretions.Wisconsin Hockey: 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 WE WANT MORE!
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Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
"Baggot says Hughes and Rockwood are centering the top two lines...
Timothy A --> Great hockey mind... Or Greatest hockey mind?!?"
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Originally posted by ARM View PostA nice offseason topic ... the individual power rankings of Badger forwards.
Webster, O'Brien, and Watts lit it up to start the season against weaker competition. As good as their season was, they weren't able to maintain similar production over the second half in general, and in particular against top competition. That said, I don't see O'Brien suddenly being regarded as a 2nd-line player. The more likely scenario is that UW winds up with at least two 1st lines, one of which has to be listed higher than the other on the sheet.
Missing a season for the Olympics doesn't automatically make someone better than somebody who stayed in college. Curl is a nice player, and I thought so from the first time I saw her playing with the U-18s. Still as a rival, SS is the player who worries me most, because she contributes in so many ways.
If there was a team that was configured such that it could lose a Webster and survive it just fine, it's likely yours.
SS used to be a hold your breath when she as the puck type of player. Last year there was little of that until the end of the season when she seemed to have some of that mojo back. Which SS shows up next year?
Trading Compher for Webster is a net gain for UW and yes due to Compher UW will not be sunk by this departure. If UW hadn't had Compher and Webster left there would not be enough thinner on the planet to help me get through the summer and my teeth would have been gnashed to the gum line.
So where does she end up? Her phone still hasn't stopped smoking. I can see the cloud plume from where I live 50 miles away and the wind is in the wrong direction. She's from MO, so I'm all for Lindenwood.Wisconsin Hockey: 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 WE WANT MORE!
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Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
"Baggot says Hughes and Rockwood are centering the top two lines...
Timothy A --> Great hockey mind... Or Greatest hockey mind?!?"
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Originally posted by Timothy A View PostCurl is a fascinating player in that she isn't your prototypical over a point a game scorer yet she has garnered the interest of the US National team.
Originally posted by Timothy A View PostSS used to be a hold your breath when she (h)as the puck type of player. Last year there was little of that until the end of the season when she seemed to have some of that mojo back. Which SS shows up next year?
Originally posted by Timothy A View PostTrading Compher for Webster is a net gain for UW and yes due to Compher UW will not be sunk by this departure.
Originally posted by Timothy A View PostShe's from MO, so I'm all for Lindenwood.
"... And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;" -- Rudyard Kipling
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Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
So where does she end up? Her phone still hasn't stopped smoking. I can see the cloud plume from where I live 50 miles away and the wind is in the wrong direction. She's from MO, so I'm all for Lindenwood.
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Originally posted by drhockey View Postmy source tells me webster to OSU is a done deal. she left Wisconsin to be a two sport athlete and OSU field hockey coach coached her on Field hockey junior national team
Reminds me of Alev Kelter (and her sister Derya), who played both soccer and ice hockey for Wisconsin. They would be full-time soccer players until that season ended, and then join the hockey team, maybe after Thanksgiving or after Christmas break.
The field hockey season runs through October, or into November, depending on how far into the NCAA tournament one gets.
(And this just came up with regard to questions around a couple Nebraska volleyball players: as far as scholarships go, there is a hierarchy of sports as far as where a multi-sport athlete's scholarship gets counted. But neither women's ice hockey nor field hockey is expressly mentioned; men's hockey is. So I *think* the school gets to designate which team's limit the scholarship counts against. That is to say, Ohio State would get to choose which team Webster would count against, meaning the other team gets a "free" player. If women's ice hockey works like men's, then she would count against the ice hockey team limit.)
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Adding, six B1G teams made last year's NCAA field hockey tournament, but Ohio State was not one of them... but none of those have ice hockey. Looking at won-loss records, Ohio State's field hockey team was frankly not very good.Last edited by robertearle; 05-01-2022, 02:47 PM.
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