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  • There are, however, FAR more schools putting resources into hockey than there was 20 years ago.

    Regardless, all the coaches at Norwich were told (again, last week) by the acting administration that their plan to address the deficit is to scale back financial aid and they “won’t get the same students they have in the past”.

    Start praying the new President reverses that quickly when he gets into office.

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    • scaling back financial aid only apply to the athletic department or is it campus wide ???

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      • Originally posted by KrbFlint View Post
        There are, however, FAR more schools putting resources into hockey than there was 20 years ago.

        Regardless, all the coaches at Norwich were told (again, last week) by the acting administration that their plan to address the deficit is to scale back financial aid and they “won’t get the same students they have in the past”.

        Start praying the new President reverses that quickly when he gets into office.
        You know what they say about excuses...

        It's damn near endless around here. I get that the factors are real but the fact of the matter is the team isn't as good and there are plenty of steps that people in charge don't seem to be taking to change it. Pack the rink with fans and students the next two weeks and win a couple of damn hockey games would be a good start!

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        • Originally posted by dwb View Post
          scaling back financial aid only apply to the athletic department or is it campus wide ???
          Campus wide

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          • Originally posted by ***JCB*** View Post

            You know what they say about excuses...

            It's damn near endless around here. I get that the factors are real but the fact of the matter is the team isn't as good and there are plenty of steps that people in charge don't seem to be taking to change it. Pack the rink with fans and students the next two weeks and win a couple of damn hockey games would be a good start!
            No doubt. I just think we’re being really naive to think that the ladnscape changes in college hockey haven’t affected Norwich. For quite a while, NU had their pick of elite talent in the northeast and now there are far more viable options for kids.

            I also would love to see a packed rink, but I don’t know how we blame Ellsworth/the program for that. Attendance was declining during the McShane years too.

            Meanwhile the GD club game was jammed with students this past weekend. Irritating.

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            • Maybe look in the mirror because its naive to think that the head coach of the hockey team is powerless to try to increase attendance.

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              • Funding for the Ellsworth experiment needs to conclude. He lacks intensity and is extremely disagreeable, just listen to his responses during the Coach’s Corner. Why is he immune to all these theories floating around regarding NU’s decline?

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                • Attendance Averages by season, also number of home dates:

                  2022-23 1086 12
                  2022-23 1209 17
                  2021-22 1125 10
                  2020-21 none
                  2019-20 1278 17
                  2018-19 1329 17 Ellsworth named coach-Runner up
                  2017-18 1380 17 Last McShane year
                  2016-17 1629 16 Championship
                  2015-16 1312 17
                  2014-15 1528 16
                  2013-14 1287 18
                  2012-13 1618 17
                  2011-12 1421 17
                  2010-11 1732 17
                  2009-10 1498 19 Championship
                  2008-09 1682 13
                  2007-08 1982 17
                  2006-07 1839 16
                  2005-06 1618 17
                  2004-05 1589 14
                  2003-04 1747 15
                  2002-03 1871 20 Championship
                  2001-02 1355 17

                  The trend is downwards.
                  Go 'Wick!

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                  • Originally posted by jerrynu26 View Post
                    Attendance Averages by season, also number of home dates:

                    2022-23 1086 12
                    2022-23 1209 17
                    2021-22 1125 10
                    2020-21 none
                    2019-20 1278 17
                    2018-19 1329 17 Ellsworth named coach-Runner up
                    2017-18 1380 17 Last McShane year
                    2016-17 1629 16 Championship
                    2015-16 1312 17
                    2014-15 1528 16
                    2013-14 1287 18
                    2012-13 1618 17
                    2011-12 1421 17
                    2010-11 1732 17
                    2009-10 1498 19 Championship
                    2008-09 1682 13
                    2007-08 1982 17
                    2006-07 1839 16
                    2005-06 1618 17
                    2004-05 1589 14
                    2003-04 1747 15
                    2002-03 1871 20 Championship
                    2001-02 1355 17

                    The trend is downwards.
                    Agreed, and your data shows it started during the McShane era. There are also posts on threads all over these boards talking about declining attendance at a bunch of schools.

                    I had conversations with another active poster here about declining attendance/empty seats way before Ellsworth took over.

                    Nonetheless, it absolutely SUCKS to see an, essentially, empty student section every weekend in Kreitzberg when it used to be so strong.

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                    • Originally posted by KrbFlint View Post

                      Agreed, and your data shows it started during the McShane era. There are also posts on threads all over these boards talking about declining attendance at a bunch of schools.

                      I had conversations with another active poster here about declining attendance/empty seats way before Ellsworth took over.

                      Nonetheless, it absolutely SUCKS to see an, essentially, empty student section every weekend in Kreitzberg when it used to be so strong.
                      Ticket prices, streaming, town/team relationship, older fan base, corps/civilian divide, administration enforcing strict student conduct policies, inability to buy a ticket to a game more than 5 days in advance, season ticket holders not using seats, lack of in-game entertainment, loss of “traditional” rivals in nescac opponents with interlock ending (Bowdoin/colby used to be a massive weekend), lack of scoring etc

                      The list goes on and on.
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                      • Originally posted by KrbFlint View Post

                        Agreed, and your data shows it started during the McShane era. There are also posts on threads all over these boards talking about declining attendance at a bunch of schools.

                        I had conversations with another active poster here about declining attendance/empty seats way before Ellsworth took over.

                        Nonetheless, it absolutely SUCKS to see an, essentially, empty student section every weekend in Kreitzberg when it used to be so strong.
                        Mike’s average over the first 17 years of record keeping is 1,593 in attendance, since Mike it is only 1,205. Mike’s worst year for attendance is better than all but Ellsworth’s first, which was boosted both by the novelty of a new coach and the fact that team should have won a championship ( a team built by Mike).

                        Go 'Wick!

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                        • Theres about 100 seats in the sections where the students sit and it's amazing what 1-2 full sections can do for the atmosphere. The difference in feel in this rink between 1,000 and 1,500 is astronomical never mind 2-3k which some playoff games used to get.

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                          • Originally posted by jerrynu26 View Post

                            Mike’s average over the first 17 years of record keeping is 1,593 in attendance, since Mike it is only 1,205. Mike’s worst year for attendance is better than all but Ellsworth’s first, which was boosted both by the novelty of a new coach and the fact that team should have won a championship ( a team built by Mike).
                            1) Well they would have won it that year if Ellsworth hadn’t been running his crazy schemes and it hadn’t been in that horrible rink.
                            2)Big and slow is no way to go
                            3)Quote from an opposing player. “Hobart is the new Norwich”

                            Frustrating

                            A change needs to be made.

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                            • Well, it was a packed arena.
                              and how about that defensive team that’s been built?
                              Terrible d zone most of the night, in the 26th game.
                              that was just awful.
                              Go 'Wick!

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                              • Before anyone asks or calls me out, horrible loss. Period.

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