Utica College: The gang's all here.

[Russell Jaslow]

I guess anything north of NYC is actually considered upstate. I never really thought about it, actually who cares ?

Actually, anything north of Yonkers (or maybe White Plains) is considered Upstate. LOL

[sshablak]

Just questioning the accuracy of the statement that Utica "has become the top-dog in Upstate D-3 hockey over the past few years."

Your questioning is accurate.

[Fishman'81]

Actually, anything north of Yonkers (or maybe White Plains) is considered Upstate. LOL

'Zactly what I was going to say.

And my numb-skulled omission of Genny was egregious. Guilty as charged. Genny might actually be the best program up here in recent years.

And, FWIW, I root with great vigor for OSU, Geneseo and Platty in OOC games... (Unless one of them is playing Utica.)

[geneseo]

'Zactly what I was going to say.

And my numb-skulled omission of Genny was egregious. Guilty as charged. Genny might actually be the best program up here in recent years.

And, FWIW, I root with great vigor for OSU, Geneseo and Platty in OOC games... (Unless one of them is playing Utica.)

Nov. 27 is highlighted on my Calendar. Should be a barn-burner if it's in the cards.

[Fishman'81]

Nov. 27 is highlighted on my Calendar. Should be a barn-burner if it's in the cards.

Could be one of those 8-7 deals. (I love that, actually.)

Have to get past UMB first, though, and I hope that you do.

[sshablak]

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[sshablak]

And the Pios have to get by Amherst.

[geneseo]

And the Pios have to get by Amherst.

Yep. That's why I said "in the cards."

[Fishman'81]

And the Pios have to get by Amherst.

Not very concerned about Amherst, though perhaps I should be.

The UMB/Genny winner looks tough, though, either way.

And, just saying here, while we're talking about great programs Upstate, we have to mention Hobart.

HC bailed on Upstate for whatever reason, but that's a great program in the context of the past 20 years or so, despite it's God-awful venue.

[Fishman'81]

Quality win tonight, on paper.

Loved the 3x3 OT.

Tomorrow's game might have gigantic NCAA implications.

[Fishman'81]

D-3 refs are generally God-awful, and today was no exception.

Adrian has talent, but they clutch, grab, hold and slash a la the WWF.

The refs evidently got tired of seeing it, and swallowed their whistles after calling the first four on AC, then called a few "make-up" penalties on Utica, just in the name of some absurd notion of "fairness". They even called a dive on UC when the guy charged with the crime was on his feet.

It was a brutal game to watch, but I'll give the AC goalies credit. They both played very well. (Otherwise, AC would easily have been swept.)

[802Hockey]

D-3 refs are generally God-awful, and today was no exception.

Adrian has talent, but they clutch, grab, hold and slash a la the WWF.

The refs evidently got tired of seeing it, and swallowed their whistles after calling the first four on AC, then called a few "make-up" penalties on Utica, just in the name of some absurd notion of "fairness". They even called a dive on UC when the guy charged with the crime was on his feet.

It was a brutal game to watch, but I'll give the AC goalies credit. They both played very well. (Otherwise, AC would easily have been swept.)

Unfortunately this has become all too common in D3 hockey. I have seen it for far too many years and truly believe the rougher, dirtier teams are helped by it. Some teams play so atrociously bad that there could be 20 penalties a game on them...at some point the refs start to swallow the whistle but also look at the other team to try and even out the penalty calls....this basically turns into a game being called drastically different for two teams...even favoring the team that pushes the physical/borderline play. If D3 wants to continue to grow they need to penalize this type of play more and encourage clean hockey.

[Fishman'81]

Unfortunately this has become all too common in D3 hockey. I have seen it for far too many years and truly believe the rougher, dirtier teams are helped by it. Some teams play so atrociously bad that there could be 20 penalties a game on them...at some point the refs start to swallow the whistle but also look at the other team to try and even out the penalty calls....this basically turns into a game being called drastically different for two teams...even favoring the team that pushes the physical/borderline play. If D3 wants to continue to grow they need to penalize this type of play more and encourage clean hockey.

I agree. D-1 has moved on from that calculus, but there's a double-standard in D-3 still.

Western teams seem to get the most leeway, especially in National play. As you say, the P/T refs want to "even things out", for no defensible reason.

That's an archaic approach, and it makes for early-90's viewing. D-3 should review their performances, and make personnel moves based on that evidence.

Make no mistake, Adrian has talent. Yet they were out-shot something like 71-38 over the weekend, and still salvaged a split. Furthermore, the refs ignored 10-20 obvious Adrian holds/interferences in Game 2 alone, and right around the puck! Then they whistled UC for phantom penalties

I could go on and on, but I won't. Sounds like sour grapes, I get that... And it sure made for some ****ty hockey, as well.

;-)

[Tom Coughlin]

Unfortunately this has become all too common in D3 hockey. I have seen it for far too many years and truly believe the rougher, dirtier teams are helped by it. Some teams play so atrociously bad that there could be 20 penalties a game on them...at some point the refs start to swallow the whistle but also look at the other team to try and even out the penalty calls....this basically turns into a game being called drastically different for two teams...even favoring the team that pushes the physical/borderline play. If D3 wants to continue to grow they need to penalize this type of play more and encourage clean hockey.

As a fan of a team who plays Adrian 3 times per year, I didn't even have to look at the post you were replying to to know what team you were talking about.

[802Hockey]

As a fan of a team who plays Adrian 3 times per year, I didn't even have to look at the post you were replying to to know what team you were talking about.

As a Norwich fan I do not get to see Adrian play too many times but in the games I have witnessed both live and streamed they are definitely at the top of this list and one of the more skilled teams to play this way. Norwich played Salve Regina this past weekend who were downright goons from the Coaches down to the Equipment managers. Salve honestly looked like a talented team as well so I was disappointed to see their lack of respect for the game.

There are plenty of other teams out this way in the East that carry this type of play to not only pick on Adrian too bad