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  • Originally posted by bakdraft21 View Post

    OK OK let's not technical,just breaking Fishes balls.....;-)))
    I feel like it's just you and I having a conversation right now. lol
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    • Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post

      I feel like it's just you and I having a conversation right now. lol
      I'm on and off the computer all day,stocks and my rental properties so why not....takes my mind off the Ahole renters..

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      • Originally posted by bakdraft21 View Post

        OK OK let's not technical,just breaking Fishes balls.....;-)))
        I had it coming... But a prominent D-3 program losing 6-2 to even a "mid-level" D-1 team is hardly a statement game, no matter how you slice it.

        I am interested in the general topic, though. I watch both divisions, and don't see a HUGE gulf between the best D-3 teams and mediocre D-1 teams, but I've also seen pine-shining D-1 players become D-3 All-Americans once they transferred.
        Last edited by Fishman'81; 11-19-2020, 10:10 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post

          I had it coming... But a prominent D-3 program losing 6-2 to even a "mid-level" D-1 team is hardly a statement game, no matter how you slice it.

          I am interested in the general topic, though. I watch both divisions, and don't see a HUGE gulf between the best D-3 teams and mediocre D-1 teams, but I've also seen pine-shining D-1 players become D-3 All-Americans once they transferred.
          All in good fun.......I can speak for what I have seen at Oswego,we have had several D1 transfers,some come in and kick butt,some end up 3/4th line and dont do much,I'm sure it has to do with skill,but also the player personality.I don't get that excited anymore when I see a D1 transfer coming to Oz,the coaches do a GREAT job recruiting, and many are on the D1/D3 bubble to begin with.

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          • there is a gap between DIII and DI but it is not a big as some people think it is.
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            • Originally posted by sacole13 View Post
              there is a gap between DIII and DI but it is not a big as some people think it is.
              I would consider the gap to still be fairly large. Even a top-tier D-3 team such as my beloved 19/20 UC squad would struggle to make a splash even in a weak D-1 conference such as the Atlantic.

              Just my opinion, or maybe not... All of the emperical evidence bears that out as well.
              Last edited by Fishman'81; 11-20-2020, 11:32 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post

                I would consider the gap to still be fairly large. Even a top-tier D-3 team such as my beloved 19/20 UC squad would struggle to make a splash even in a weak D-1 conference such as the Atlantic.

                Just my opinion, or maybe not... All of the emperical evidence bears that out as well.


                And I only give my opinion with no evidence.
                The Titanic only had one Captain..........
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                "Don't take any wooden nickels." Ray Rouse
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                • Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post

                  I would consider the gap to still be fairly large. Even a top-tier D-3 team such as my beloved 19/20 UC squad would struggle to make a splash even in a weak D-1 conference such as the Atlantic.

                  Just my opinion, or maybe not... All of the emperical evidence bears that out as well.
                  So when Adrian beat Princeton, St. Norbert tied Wisconsin, Norwich battled Dartmouth to two close games, including outshooting them in one, those aren’t evidence to contradict your opinion?
                  The Poster Formerly Known as Purple_and_Gold10
                  "The Prezidential Three - Elmira, Oswego, Norwich" Joecct
                  GO EAGLES!!! R.I.P. L.H. #4 In our hearts forever
                  GO LAKERS!!!
                  GO CADETS!!! R.I.P. Charlie Crosby '63
                  "Reisweber trying to circle in front of the net, he does, HE SCORES! that's it! Oswego State has done it!! The Lakers take home the first NCAA title of any kind in school history. It's celebration time in Upstate New York!"
                  Oswego State '09

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                  • I suspect tonight’s BG vs Adrian rematch will be a little tighter. Should be able to watch live on Adrian’s YouTube channel.
                    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n3uX65W10rQ
                    Last edited by altazo; 11-21-2020, 05:24 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post

                      So when Adrian beat Princeton, St. Norbert tied Wisconsin, Norwich battled Dartmouth to two close games, including outshooting them in one, those aren’t evidence to contradict your opinion?
                      The best of D-3 going 1-2-1 vs. the dregs of D-1 in what amounted to meaningless scrimmages..?

                      Dream on. There just isn't a reasonable comparison to be drawn there.
                      Last edited by Fishman'81; 11-21-2020, 11:24 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post

                        The best of D-3 going 1-2-1 vs. the dregs of D-1 in what amounted to meaningless scrimmages..?

                        Dream on. There just isn't a reasonable comparison to be drawn there.
                        I thought the “dregs of Division I” was Atlantic Hockey in your eyes. None of those schools listed play in that league.

                        Also, no one is claiming top D3 can consistently beat Division 1 teams. Your “it’s not even close” mindset is off base and there is evidence to contradict it that you just refuse to hear.

                        The top d3 teams could compete and do decent in Atlantic Hockey every year. Nearly every player on a Norwich, St. Norbert, Stevens Point, Oswego etc. drew Division I interest at some point or in some cases played at D-I before transfering. If all those schools are looking at the same players, wouldn’t those games inherently be competitive most nights?
                        The Poster Formerly Known as Purple_and_Gold10
                        "The Prezidential Three - Elmira, Oswego, Norwich" Joecct
                        GO EAGLES!!! R.I.P. L.H. #4 In our hearts forever
                        GO LAKERS!!!
                        GO CADETS!!! R.I.P. Charlie Crosby '63
                        "Reisweber trying to circle in front of the net, he does, HE SCORES! that's it! Oswego State has done it!! The Lakers take home the first NCAA title of any kind in school history. It's celebration time in Upstate New York!"
                        Oswego State '09

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                        • Bowling Green downs the dogs 5-0,must have nice for the dogs to play a top 20 D1 team 2x...........at least they are playing while the SUNYAC sits and watches due to cowardly leadership,as we used to say "No grapes raisins"......Happy Turkey day all...

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                          • Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post

                            I thought the “dregs of Division I” was Atlantic Hockey in your eyes. None of those schools listed play in that league.

                            Also, no one is claiming top D3 can consistently beat Division 1 teams. Your “it’s not even close” mindset is off base and there is evidence to contradict it that you just refuse to hear.

                            The top d3 teams could compete and do decent in Atlantic Hockey every year. Nearly every player on a Norwich, St. Norbert, Stevens Point, Oswego etc. drew Division I interest at some point or in some cases played at D-I before transferring. If all those schools are looking at the same players, wouldn’t those games inherently be competitive most nights?
                            As I said the gap between DIII and DI is not as big as some would think. 1-2-1 vs mid tier DI schools is a good result. Now Top DIII schools vs UND, BC or Min Dul would be ugly. But Arizona St or Bemidji a close game would happen.
                            The Titanic only had one Captain..........
                            "You're holding your mouth wrong." Jim Cole
                            "Don't take any wooden nickels." Ray Rouse
                            9 Time World Champion Boston Red Sox ('03,'12,'15,'16,'18,2004, '07, '13, '18)

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                            • Originally posted by sacole13 View Post

                              As I said the gap between DIII and DI is not as big as some would think. 1-2-1 vs mid tier DI schools is a good result. Now Top DIII schools vs UND, BC or Min Dul would be ugly. But Arizona St or Bemidji a close game would happen.
                              I'm with you...It's Fish's claim that the top D3 teams couldn't compete with mid-tier to bottom of the pack D1 teams that is crazy to me. I'm not saying Norwich, St. Norbert, Oswego, etc. would win every game vs. the bottom 5-10 teams...but to think they couldn't compete with them consistently on nightly basis is nuts to me given the little crossover evidence we have and the fact that a lot of these schools are recruiting against each other for the same kids.
                              The Poster Formerly Known as Purple_and_Gold10
                              "The Prezidential Three - Elmira, Oswego, Norwich" Joecct
                              GO EAGLES!!! R.I.P. L.H. #4 In our hearts forever
                              GO LAKERS!!!
                              GO CADETS!!! R.I.P. Charlie Crosby '63
                              "Reisweber trying to circle in front of the net, he does, HE SCORES! that's it! Oswego State has done it!! The Lakers take home the first NCAA title of any kind in school history. It's celebration time in Upstate New York!"
                              Oswego State '09

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                              • Luckily, neither side will have to admit they were wrong either, as we'll never have enough evidence to say conclusively one way or the other. Will we have any hint at all with St. Thomas or will they have turned over their roster already when they play their first Div I game?
                                Steve
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                                Plattsburgh State Class of '99

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