Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

[PSUChamps2001]

Just got drafted by the Bucs. 2nd round, #61 overall.

Hope he likes crab legs

[Hammer]

Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

It's Fish, he doesn't have to. He's always right, duh.

On a serious note (ECAC West related) Hobart and football offensive lineman Ali Marpet is all over SportsCenter Projected as a 3rd or 4th round pick (rated 4th best OL) and the first Statesman to be in the NFL since 1937. Maybe all the PR will get Hobart to build a new rink for hockey....

Just got drafted by the Bucs. 2nd round, #61 overall.

[OZFEST]

Why would that happen, Joe? (It's an honest question, BTW; memorizing arbitrary D-3 by-laws is not my idea of a good use of time... That makes about as much sense as studying a religion.)

Anyhoo, Pool C is the (almost) saving-grace of the D-3 process. For the past few years, the Pool C selections have saved the bacon in terms of the credibility of the process, the 2014 Trinity exclusion being the only true recent outrage IIRC .

I thought you were a Fisher alum...thank God for grace.

[norm1909]

Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

Getting back to the thread title, ECAC West............

Does anyone know if Lebanon Valley has, in fact, applied for readmission to the ECAC-West? The league is not, at this time, mentioning them as members or members in waiting.

I would think so ...

"We are thrilled to welcome Lebanon Valley into the ECAC Men's West Hockey League," said Dr. Kevin T. McGinniss, President and CEO of the ECAC. "Lebanon Valley has been a premier member of the ECAC for years and we are now proud to have them as the eighth team in ECAC Men's West."

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

You guys are going to hurt your heads arguing with a wall.....

Unless it's a padded cell wall...

[PSUChamps2001]

Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

You guys are going to hurt your heads arguing with a wall.....

[NUProf]

Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

I guess all those 40K tuitions don't quite cover the cost of an extra hockey game or two. Jeez Louise.

The issue is the NCAA DIII budget. They pay the costs for all the DIII tournaments out of the measly 3% of the the overall NCAA budget that the NCAA allocates to DIII, despite the fact that DIII is by far the largest division of the three.

[Fishman'81]

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It's been discussed as a possible cost-cutting plan. It would apply to all DIII sports... I don't think it's going to happen any time soon, but it is certainly been filed away as an emergency plan.

I guess all those 40K tuitions don't quite cover the cost of an extra hockey game or two. Jeez Louise.

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

Why would that happen, Joe? (It's an honest question, BTW; memorizing arbitrary D-3 by-laws is not my idea of a good use of time... That makes about as much sense as studying a religion.)

Anyhoo, Pool C is the (almost) saving-grace of the D-3 process. For the past few years, the Pool C selections have saved the bacon in terms of the credibility of the process, the 2014 Trinity exclusion being the only true recent outrage IIRC .

It's been discussed as a possible cost-cutting plan. It would apply to all DIII sports... I don't think it's going to happen any time soon, but it is certainly been filed away as an emergency plan.

[Fishman'81]

Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

Wonder what will happen to the landscape when Pool C is scrapped as a cost savings measure (for all championships)?

Why would that happen, Joe? (It's an honest question, BTW; memorizing arbitrary D-3 by-laws is not my idea of a good use of time... That makes about as much sense as studying a religion.)

Anyhoo, Pool C is the (almost) saving-grace of the D-3 process. For the past few years, the Pool C selections have saved the bacon in terms of the credibility of the process, the 2014 Trinity exclusion being the only true recent outrage IIRC .

[norm1909]

Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

You're right about that... It's just that they aren't necessarily merited.

The NCAA does NOT have much impact on who the conference sends (each conference has the choice of how to award its automatic bid) - beyond setting the institution's post-season eligibility requirements.

[joecct]

Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

Wonder what will happen to the landscape when Pool C is scrapped as a cost savings measure (for all championships)?

[Fishman'81]

Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

All the criteria for qualifying for the AQ is publicized - they are the only transparent bids.

You're right about that... It's just that they aren't necessarily merited.

[norm1909]

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It's no secret that I have zero regard for the process, Larry. Not only is there no transparency, there aren't even any real "criteria", since the committee is free to do as it pleases without a shred of accountability. There's never going to be a perfect method to choosing the field, but a far, far, better option is already available.

(And I just referenced Plymouth because IIRC they were like the 38th team in the country when the got their bid this year... Not picking on them for accepting it!)

All the criteria for qualifying for the AQ is publicized - they are the only transparent bids.

[Fishman'81]

Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

Your case being that you have you no regard for the process? I disagree with the lack of transparency (particularly the "need" of keeping the final ranking secret), back when the NCAA screwed Adrian out of a bid, I showed my disdain for the process. But I never rejected the very valuable benefits of competing for an AQ. Yes, the DII schools face an even worse disadvantage, with NO chance at any bid. The "business" of getting into "the field of 11" is the goal of the DIII athlete, qualifying for the AQ should be the goal of the institution and its conference administrators - while they can't flick a magic wand, they can work at utilizing all available resources to getting the objective done - it need not be ideal - becoming ideal can be worked on after - meeting the publicized criteria is the best one can reasonably hope for.

THAT is my case.

It's no secret that I have zero regard for the process, Larry. Not only is there no transparency, there aren't even any real "criteria", since the committee is free to do as it pleases without a shred of accountability. There's never going to be a perfect method to choosing the field, but a far, far, better option is already available.

(And I just referenced Plymouth because IIRC they were like the 38th team in the country when the got their bid this year... Not picking on them for accepting it!)