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  • #61
    Re: Bill Beaney's successor

    Steve Moffat at Castleton would be the perfect coach for the Panthers. All-American guy, smooth. Hamilton blew it not hiring him when they had the chance. The holdover players he inherited are not his type of people thus the mediocre results. If he stays at Castleton they'll be challenging soon. Good hockey man.

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    • #62
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      Originally posted by CARDS_rule_the_Burgh View Post
      Dude, his son is Kangas's Assistant Coach, I think he might have a little more insight into NESCAC tenure procedures than you...
      Sorry, dude, you're in the serious knee slapper category as to who knows what about the NESCAC tenure system

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      • #63
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        Originally posted by CARDS_rule_the_Burgh View Post
        Also, for the vast majority of schools, "Assistant Professor" is, by definition, a tenure-track position. It would be different if you said "Adjunct Professor". And most institutions give an Assistant Professor 6-8 years to earn tenure and become an "Associate Professor" or THEY FIRE THEM. Kangas has been around for 25 years...
        More knee slapping -- it you do not get tenure after 7 years (and the related promotion to associate professor), you're not getting tenure. Williams could decide not to renew Kangas's current contract if it so desires . . .
        Last edited by d3follower; 03-11-2015, 09:53 AM.

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        • #64
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          Originally posted by d3follower View Post
          More knee slapping -- it you do not get tenure after 7 years (and the related promotion to associate professor), you're not getting tenure. Williams could decide not to renew Kangas's current contract expires if it so desires . . .
          You are pushing semantics - he has a tenure track position.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by norm1909 View Post
            You are pushing semantics - he has a tenure track position.
            What a joke -- no coach at williams has tenure .

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            • #66
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              Originally posted by d3follower View Post
              What a joke -- no coach at williams has tenure .
              No coach anywhere has tenure! The degree to which they eff up has correlation to tolerance, but there is always a low that will effect change.

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              • #67
                Re: Bill Beaney's successor

                ok so we have killed the tenure issue, so who is going to be the successor?
                Cadet Crosby '63

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                • #68
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                  Originally posted by gfan View Post
                  Kevin Swallow, Nichols HC
                  He's been coach of the year 2 of the last 3 years

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                  • #69
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                    Originally posted by Golden007 View Post
                    No coach anywhere has tenure! The degree to which they eff up has correlation to tolerance, but there is always a low that will effect change.
                    According to this, there might be some disagreement. Or are they referring to tenured professors that are also coaching?

                    Never mind. I just got a little smarter. noun vs. verb.
                    Last edited by Adirondack; 03-11-2015, 01:07 PM.

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                    • #70
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                      Originally posted by Golden007 View Post
                      No coach anywhere has tenure! The degree to which they eff up has correlation to tolerance, but there is always a low that will effect change.
                      But, professors DO, and yes, it is true that not all coaches are also tenure/tenure track professors.
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                      • #71
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                        Originally posted by norm1909 View Post
                        But, professors DO, and yes, it is true that not all coaches are also tenure/tenure track professors.
                        Why don't you produce the name of a D3 hockey coach who actually has tenure since you are so good at the Internet thing and so certain that you are right. .

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                        • #72
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                          Originally posted by d3follower View Post
                          Why don't you produce the name of a D3 hockey coach who actually has tenure since you are so good at the Internet thing and so certain that you are right. .
                          You can use the State University of New York Policies of the Board of Trustees as an example. Start with Article XI - Title C (starts on page 28), it covers both academic & professional full time employees (see pages 51 & 52 for athletic titles as they relate to Article XI). Most, if not all SUNY head coaches are Full-Time employees.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by norm1909 View Post
                            You can use the State University of New York Policies of the Board of Trustees as an example. Start with Article XI - Title C (starts on page 28), it covers both academic & professional full time employees (see pages 51 & 52 for athletic titles as they relate to Article XI). Most, if not all SUNY head coaches are Full-Time employees.
                            Did not ask about "full-time employees" but about coaches who are tenured professors.

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                            • #74
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                              I wonder if Mark Morris formerly of Clarkson who is now with the Florida Panthers will throw his name in the hat.
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by norm1909 View Post
                                You can use the State University of New York Policies of the Board of Trustees as an example. Start with Article XI - Title C (starts on page 28), it covers both academic & professional full time employees (see pages 51 & 52 for athletic titles as they relate to Article XI). Most, if not all SUNY head coaches are Full-Time employees.
                                And it expressly states that coaches are not eligible for permanent employment (aka tenure) but are eligible only for employment of limited terms.

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