D3 All-Americans Watch

[hockeyguy99]

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He didn't make first team NESCAC and unless the rules have changed, you have to be first team All-Conference to make the All-American ballot. I was shocked he didn't make first team, and he even got beat out by his own teammate. I had Deutsch first team in my last projection.

Wrong! This has never been the case. Ever. In the history of the award. Before throwing out inaccurate information, I prefer to run things by the greatest Sports Information Department in Vermont. Middlebury SID-1 Norwich SID-0. At least it was closer than the game.

Speaking strictly from a NESCAC perspective, this is actually pretty common. I am sure other conferences have an equal number of examples over the last 15 years as well.

2014
Colin Downey (Bowdoin) - 3rd Team All American - 2nd Team NESCAC

2008
Mike Westerman (Bowdoin) - 2nd Team All American - 2nd Team NESCAC

2007
Tom Maldonado (Middlebury) - 1st Team All American - 2nd Team NESCAC

2005
Brian Phinney (Middlebury) - 1st Team All American - 2nd Team NESCAC

2002
Ryan Constantine (Middlebury) - 2nd Team All American - 2nd Team NESCAC

#FireBeaney #RetireBeaney

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Wrong! This has never been the case. Ever. In the history of the award. Before throwing out inaccurate information, I prefer to run things by the greatest Sports Information Department in Vermont. Middlebury SID-1 Norwich SID-0. At least it was closer than the game.

Speaking strictly from a NESCAC perspective, this is actually pretty common. I am sure other conferences have an equal number of examples over the last 15 years as well.

2014
Colin Downey (Bowdoin) - 3rd Team All American - 2nd Team NESCAC

2008
Mike Westerman (Bowdoin) - 2nd Team All American - 2nd Team NESCAC

2007
Tom Maldonado (Middlebury) - 1st Team All American - 2nd Team NESCAC

2005
Brian Phinney (Middlebury) - 1st Team All American - 2nd Team NESCAC

2002
Ryan Constantine (Middlebury) - 2nd Team All American - 2nd Team NESCAC

#FireBeaney #RetireBeaney

Fair enough. I stand corrected. Maybe I'm crossing the women up with the men. I believe that was the case at one time with the women, if not still the case.

[hockeyguy99]

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Fair enough. I stand corrected. Maybe I'm crossing the women up with the men. I believe that was the case at one time with the women, if not still the case.

While less common with NESCAC student-athletes, this actually has occurred on the women's side as well. (Extremely common with ECAC West athletes)

2008
Krystyn Elek (Amherst) 2nd Team All American - 2nd Team NESCAC

2005
Shannon Tarrent (Middlebury) 2nd Team All American - 2nd Team NESCAC

2003
Molly Wasserman (Williams) 2nd Team All American - 2nd Team NESCAC

#FireBeaney #RetireBeaney

[PSUChamps2001]

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Fair enough. I stand corrected. Maybe I'm crossing the women up with the men. I believe that was the case at one time with the women, if not still the case.

I am searching. We've had this discussion several times and someone found it at one time that in order to be First Team All-American you must be First Team All Conference. Might have to get Norm on this one. It was in one of the AHCA CCM Selection Process form or something someone posted. I want to say it was something to do with Sundberg. Just like coach of the year you have to be Conference Coach of the Year and or make the FF....could it have changed in 10-12 years? Maybe.

[Dyce]

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I am searching. We've had this discussion several times and someone found it at one time that in order to be First Team All-American you must be First Team All Conference. Might have to get Norm on this one. It was in one of the AHCA CCM Selection Process form or something someone posted. I want to say it was something to do with Sundberg. Just like coach of the year you have to be Conference Coach of the Year and or make the FF....could it have changed in 10-12 years? Maybe.

I can't vouch for there being any official rule, but you're definitely right about the speculative side of things stemming from Sundberg. In 2001, Fredonia's Will Hamele was named 1st team All-SUNYAC (as well as SUNYAC Player of the Year), and then Sundberg was named 2nd team All-American. 1st teamer Tyler Euverman put up similar numbers, but appeared to be slightly outshone by Sundberg: Euverman led in GAA, but Sundberg had more shutouts and a higher save percentage, and faced significantly more shots while earning them. I don't know whether the rule was real, or conjured out of a combination of the situation and the Coach of the Year guidelines; RIT's phenomenal season could just as easily have played into Euverman's selection.

[spwood]

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I don't know whether the rule was real, or conjured out of a combination of the situation and the Coach of the Year guidelines; RIT's phenomenal season could just as easily have played into Euverman's selection.

All's well that ends well!

[Dyce]

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All's well that ends well!

Yep, pretty sure Sundberg was more than satisfied with his consolation prize

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Updated predictions.....

1st Team:
F. Stephen Buco, UMass Boston
F. William Pelletier, Norwich
F. Shawn Hulshoff, Oswego
D. Mike Vollmin, Babson
D. Bobby Gertsakis, Oswego
G. Jamie Murray, Babson

2nd Team:
F. Nick Zappia, Cortland
F. Ryan Cole, Trinity
F. Jared Ten van holtt, Elmira
D. Michael Flynn, Trinity
D. Aaron Deutsch, Amherst
G. Alex Larson, Nichols

3rd Team:
F. Michael Hawkrigg, Trinity
F. Jordan Reed, Curry
F. Andrew Wigg, Plymouth State
D. Zach Sarig, Plymouth State
D. Kyle Shapiro, Nichols
G. Nathaniel Heilbron, Trinity

[OSU2010]

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Updated predictions.....

1st Team:
F. Stephen Buco, UMass Boston
F. William Pelletier, Norwich
F. Shawn Hulshoff, Oswego
D. Mike Vollmin, Babson
D. Bobby Gertsakis, Oswego
G. Jamie Murray, Babson

2nd Team:
F. Nick Zappia, Cortland
F. Ryan Cole, Trinity
F. Jared Ten van holtt, Elmira
D. Michael Flynn, Trinity
D. Aaron Deutsch, Amherst
G. Alex Larson, Nichols

3rd Team:
F. Michael Hawkrigg, Trinity
F. Jordan Reed, Curry
F. Andrew Wigg, Plymouth State
D. Zach Sarig, Plymouth State
D. Kyle Shapiro, Nichols
G. Nathaniel Heilbron, Trinity

First team is not going to be entirely ECAC-East and Oswego

[kimmerdog]

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Remy you are correct. When Lawne won his All-American, we were told that he had to be First Team All Conference.

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

Remy you are correct. When Lawne won his All-American, we were told that he had to be First Team All Conference.

I think they allow goalies to be 2nd team, but the rest have to be First Team.

But I could be wrong.

[PSUChamps2001]

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I'm not sure where to put this, but I figured this might work

Last night NSN, Plattsburgh State, and the NCAA Women's Committee decided to Live Broadcast the Women's Final Four Banquet. Having followed DIII hockey for many years but never been behind the scenes at the "banquet" it was a pretty cool thing to see and hear the speeches, awards, guests and what not's of the banquet. Hopefully the Men's side can pick up this hopeful new tradition. If we're lucky maybe we can even get a camera in the smoke filled room a few weeks prior

[LakerEagleLover]

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It would be nice...the benefits of having a local school/campus supported by a local broadcast group...the freelance crew hired by Turner to do the men's games not likely to come out early, i.e. Get paid to do some banquet work, although I could be wrong. (Turner has been cutting back production costs the past several years, by using small flypacks, small crews and lowest bid talent....gone are the days of NEP trucks and crews that had Stanley Cup experience.....)

[joecct]

It would be nice...the benefits of having a local school/campus supported by a local broadcast group...the freelance crew hired by Turner to do the men's games not likely to come out early, i.e. Get paid to do some banquet work, although I could be wrong. (Turner has been cutting back production costs the past several years, by using small flypacks, small crews and lowest bid talent....gone are the days of NEP trucks and crews that had Stanley Cup experience.....)

Would this be a bid by a certain campus run TV station to handle the broadcasting of future D-III FF's??

[LakerEagleLover]

Would this be a bid by a certain campus run TV station to handle the broadcasting of future D-III FF's??

I reached out to ESPN and Turner for each the prior Frozen Fours that were held in Lake Placid offering crew, talent, facilities...to no avail. We will keep trying when the tournament returns east....