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  • #91
    Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

    Originally posted by bakdraft21 View Post
    D3hockey.com has their ranking up for this yr,and very nice preview........Utica should be ranked higher..........and begin
    With both rankings out, I am surprised how quiet it has been? Though I understand nobody having much to say since it is a long way to the end, and won't know anything about where teams are at for a while.
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    • #92
      Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

      Originally posted by MW49 View Post
      Well 2 weeks since you made that bold prediction , and these are my observations on it as of 10:30am today.

      Only 3 of the top 15 threads are D3 West related.
      1) 2013-2014 MIACWIACNCHA Pick'em- participants are one Westerner other than thread author, 6 Easterners.
      2) 2013-2014 UW-Stout Season Thread... 2 replies, one each from the West and East.
      3) Adrian 2013-2014 Season Thread.... 6 replies, 3 Easterners, and one Westerner other than the threads author.

      Even this thread has a meager participation by western posters. A hand full of SNC fans, a UWEC fan, and an Adrian follower.

      i doubt it's going to pick up much ,if any.
      Did you click on that hyperlink? BTW, I can understand SOME fair weather fans, and losses to graduation, but I am VERY disappointed in the almost total absence of the once rabid Adrian fans - I hope that should Aurora produce posting fans, they remain posters.
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      • #93
        Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

        Originally posted by norm1909 View Post
        Did you click on that hyperlink? BTW, I can understand SOME fair weather fans, and losses to graduation, but I am VERY disappointed in the almost total absence of the once rabid Adrian fans - I hope that should Aurora produce posting fans, they remain posters.
        Sorry you're dissapointed Larry.
        Those early years and the lively discussions that spawned the Adrian threads faded when the MCHA qualified for the AQ.
        The new Adrian posters that surfaced to support the program in their quest for a tournament invitaion were really outnumbered.

        While Adrian threads were plentiful, and their fans were passionate, I would guess that over 90% of the posters that dominated were visitors.

        I still have a great interest in DIII hockey and continue to strongly support the Adrian program. I follow the Fan Forum, but to very honest have not found discussions that interest me to the point that I care to join in.

        And so as not to derail yet another thread with Adrian stuff......my prediction.

        The new NCHA will send two teams to the dance....as St Norbert claims an at large bid.

        Adrian defeats Plattsburgh 3-1 their first National Championship.
        norm1909 & NorthernLite toast the finalists.

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        • #94
          Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

          Originally posted by NorthernLite View Post
          Sorry you're dissapointed Larry.
          Those early years and the lively discussions that spawned the Adrian threads faded when the MCHA qualified for the AQ.
          The new Adrian posters that surfaced to support the program in their quest for a tournament invitaion were really outnumbered.

          While Adrian threads were plentiful, and their fans were passionate, I would guess that over 90% of the posters that dominated were visitors.

          I still have a great interest in DIII hockey and continue to strongly support the Adrian program. I follow the Fan Forum, but to very honest have not found discussions that interest me to the point that I care to join in.

          And so as not to derail yet another thread with Adrian stuff......my prediction.

          The new NCHA will send two teams to the dance....as St Norbert claims an at large bid.

          Adrian defeats Plattsburgh 3-1 their first National Championship.
          norm1909 & NorthernLite toast the finalists.
          Nothing beats passionate fans, even fishy ones aren't bad - at worse they help expose misconceptions and ignorance, at best they stroke conversation.

          I am disappointed that St Norbert had to hijack the MCHA, but it beats adding any legitimacy to the WIAC move to isolationism. In the end, the stronger conference made possible by the commitment to the sport by Adrian and now the merging of the big dogs should significantly boast the new conference credibility and make recruiting top caliber players by all coaches that much more easier. My fear is of it results in any more LVC's.

          I would love to see an Adrian/Plattsburgh game - I only seen Adrian play against Potsdam. Of course, Plattsburgh would defeat them, but they are nevertheless a worthy opponent
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          • #95
            Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

            The Adrian fans are still here and still keeping up on the threads. Most of us don't post lots of comments unless there is something that really applies to our team. It is a little interesting that so many from the East seem to think all the good DIII hockey takes place out there. We have some very good hockey being played out West (if you consider Michigan to be in the West) but most of those in the East never get to see us play. Since so many of the East schools are located so closely together it's easier to keep track of what' taking place with all those teams. We don't have any news of hockey in our local papers besides what Adrian is involved with. There is good DIII hockey taking place all over the country. It would be nice to have a larger field in the NCAA's but that's not going to happen. Because of that places like this will always be a place to voice our support, concerns, frustrations and show our support for our local team.

            So just know we are still here and kicking and looking forward to the new season kicking off this weekend. Hopefully we will be able to make it out East in March.

            GO DOGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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            • #96
              Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

              Originally posted by Hammer View Post
              They've combined for 2 assists (1 each) over 25 combined games of Division 1 hockey, spanning 2 seasons each. Okay...
              I hear you... Yet it's amazing how some end-of-the-bench guys from D-1 can be instant standouts when they drop down to D-3.

              I watch a lot of hockey at both levels, and a huge chasm in talent between them isn't evident to me, but the empirical evidence to the contrary exists more often than not.

              As pertains to Life in general, "success" at the D-3 level is a relative term, and seems to be mostly about context.
              Last edited by Fishman'81; 10-30-2013, 03:15 AM.

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              • #97
                Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
                I


                I watch a lot of hockey at both levels, and a huge chasm in talent between them isn't evident to me, but the empirical evidence to the contrary exists more often than not.
                Between the top 10-15 D1 programs and D3, yes, I'd agree. But I honestly think schools like Norwich, Plattsburgh, SNC, Oswego, Adrain, and Utica would be right around .500 in Atlantic Hockey right now.

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                • #98
                  Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                  Originally posted by altazo View Post
                  Between the top 10-15 D1 programs and D3, yes, I'd agree. But I honestly think schools like Norwich, Plattsburgh, SNC, Oswego, Adrain, and Utica would be right around .500 in Atlantic Hockey right now.
                  I agree, some might try to point RIT's initial poor performance when they went from DIII to DI, but their final DIII team was NO where near the current caliber of Norwich, Plattsburgh, SNC, Oswego, Adrain, and Utica right now.
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by norm1909 View Post
                    I agree, some might try to point RIT's initial poor performance when they went from DIII to DI, but their final DIII team was NO where near the current caliber of Norwich, Plattsburgh, SNC, Oswego, Adrain, and Utica right now.
                    The AHA has also got a smidge better as well...is it Hockey East? No, but the league has got a little better. But yes, the top teams in DIII could at least compete with mid pack AHA teams.
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                    • Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                      Originally posted by norm1909 View Post
                      I agree, some might try to point RIT's initial poor performance when they went from DIII to DI, but their final DIII team was NO where near the current caliber of Norwich, Plattsburgh, SNC, Oswego, Adrain, and Utica right now.
                      looks like they lost to Oswego that 1st yr

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                      • Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                        Originally posted by bakdraft21 View Post
                        looks like they lost to Oswego that 1st yr
                        They did, and Oswego had something like 12 freshman in the lineup that night as well. RIT just wasn't that good at the time.

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                        • Originally posted by bakdraft21 View Post
                          looks like they lost to Oswego that 1st yr
                          The very few times I cheered for and sat with Laker fans...
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                          • Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                            Originally posted by PSUChamps2001 View Post
                            The very few times I cheered for and sat with Laker fans...
                            I remember that!

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                            • Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                              Originally posted by altazo View Post
                              Between the top 10-15 D1 programs and D3, yes, I'd agree. But I honestly think schools like Norwich, Plattsburgh, SNC, Oswego, Adrain, and Utica would be right around .500 in Atlantic Hockey right now.
                              Several years ago I would have agreed with you, but right now, D-1 has talent from top to bottom. It's not like the old days, when there were two or three tiers, and programs like last-year's D-1 runner-up Quinnipiac were de-facto D-3 teams.

                              As far as the direct comparisons go, there aren't really any, but watch how the US-Under 18 team hammers a good D-3 team on a given night, then goes on to be buried by a very pedestrian D-1 team a night or two later... Additionally, one could consider how dominant a good many D-1 transfers are at the D-3 level, when they shined the pine at their mediocre D-1 schools. (Which, of course, was why they transferred to D-3 in the first place: for the ice-time.)

                              I've done a (very) little research lately regarding the DOBs of D-3 guys, and it seems that the most successful teams are often stocked with overage players who went un-drafted... And, if you're un-drafted at age 23-26, there's probably a good reason for it.

                              My theory is that the scouting has gotten so much more efficient at both levels that guys generally land where they belong, and the proof is in the pudding: D-3 guys almost never ascend to an NHL job, while that league is loaded with D-1 players, some of them among the best in the league... I'll even go so far as to predict that if my beloved Utica team -which I expect to contend for an D-3 NC this year, if they stay healthy- would likely go winless in Hockey East.

                              The D-1/D-3 comparison seems to be between apples and oranges these days, IMO.
                              Last edited by Fishman'81; 10-31-2013, 02:20 AM.

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                              • Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                                Actually, the U-18 comparison is just the opposite. They've beaten both Michigan and Michigan State, and I think BC, over the past 5 years or so. I want to say that they've taken down Minnesota, but I'm not certain. Adrian is 3-1 against the same program, with the loss coming in a shootout in Ann Arbor. I would say with confidence that Norwich, Plattsburgh, Oswego, SNC and a couple others would have similar records, if given the opportunity.
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