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  • #46
    Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

    [QUOTE=joecct;5783501]You got the monkey. Live with him or die. Will do. Seen this same scenario off and on over many years past as have you.

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    • #47
      Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

      Originally posted by NUProf View Post
      The top 5 at season's end:

      Utica
      Plattsburgh
      Williams
      Neumann
      Wis. - Stevens Point
      WOW Prof!!!!- Showing that EASTERN BIAS just like your computer poll .

      The recent trend over the past 6 years show a Western team in the finals every time. The WEST won 4 of those 6 matches including the last 3 Championships.
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      • #48
        Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

        Originally posted by MW49 View Post
        WOW Prof!!!!- Showing that EASTERN BIAS just like your computer poll .

        The recent trend over the past 6 years show a Western team in the finals every time. The WEST won 4 of those 6 matches including the last 3 Championships.
        Your statistics show your Western Bias, sir.
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        • #49
          Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

          Originally posted by MW49 View Post
          WOW Prof!!!!- Showing that EASTERN BIAS just like your computer poll .
          Where do you think this comes from?
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          • #50
            Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

            Originally posted by NUProf View Post
            Where do you think this comes from?
            A belief that they are better than eastern radials in the snow?
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            • #51
              Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

              Originally posted by norm1909 View Post
              A belief that they are better than eastern radials in the snow?
              Nothing is better than eastern radicals!!

              Oh. Never mind.
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              • #52
                Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                Originally posted by CARDS_rule_the_Burgh View Post
                Your statistics show your Western Bias, sir.
                Those are not statistics, they are RECENT trends. Nothing bias there, that's a straight obvious observation based on pure fact.

                For clarification,RECENT although a relative term, usually refers to things of late. A concept that is lost on Yankee, Jets, and Islander fans (generally EASTERNERS) when discussing championship caliber teams.
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                2012-2013 NCHAMIACMCHA PICK'EM 2ND PLACE
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                • #53
                  Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                  Did you ever notice how the Western guys like to leave out the fact that it's almost exclusively St. Norbert that is responsible for the respectability of the West...i.e. The "West" has won 3 of the last 4....or the "West" has owned the east in the Final Four !!! It's absurd. Take St. Norbert out of the equation for a minute and let's talk. WEC of last year was a one hit wonder (See Neumann '09)

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                  • #54
                    Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                    Originally posted by admiral0417 View Post
                    Did you ever notice how the Western guys like to leave out the fact that it's almost exclusively St. Norbert that is responsible for the respectability of the West...i.e. The "West" has won 3 of the last 4....or the "West" has owned the east in the Final Four !!! It's absurd. Take St. Norbert out of the equation for a minute and let's talk. WEC of last year was a one hit wonder (See Neumann '09)
                    +1

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                    • #55
                      Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                      Originally posted by admiral0417 View Post
                      Did you ever notice how the Western guys like to leave out the fact that it's almost exclusively St. Norbert that is responsible for the respectability of the West...i.e. The "West" has won 3 of the last 4....or the "West" has owned the east in the Final Four !!! It's absurd. Take St. Norbert out of the equation for a minute and let's talk. WEC of last year was a one hit wonder (See Neumann '09)
                      I agree with what you are saying.

                      However, the most impressive western stat I can think of is the fact that 5 of the 7 teams in the "old" NCHA have won National championships in the last 20 years (and all 7 have made the NCAA tourney in that time.) That is just a straight-up incredible accomplishment for a conference. Too bad those days are over, but such is life...
                      Last edited by altazo; 10-14-2013, 04:23 PM.

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                      • #56
                        Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                        Now THAT is impressive....and refreshing.

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                        • #57
                          Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                          Originally posted by admiral0417 View Post
                          Did you ever notice how the Western guys like to leave out the fact that it's almost exclusively St. Norbert that is responsible for the respectability of the West...i.e. The "West" has won 3 of the last 4....or the "West" has owned the east in the Final Four !!! It's absurd. Take St. Norbert out of the equation for a minute and let's talk. WEC of last year was a one hit wonder (See Neumann '09)
                          Did you ever notice how the EASTERN guys like to leave out the fact that it's most exclusively an EASTERN tournament, where 7 or 8 of the 11 invited teams are EASTERN , and the brackets are usually setup so that 3 of the 4 Final Four members are EASTERN schools. Now that is absurd!!! For years I could've said take Middlebury out of the equation and let's talk.

                          Fact is SNC dominates the WEST, and RECENTLY they've owned the EAST, too.
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                          2012-2013 NCHAMIACMCHA PICK'EM 2ND PLACE
                          THE NCHA -ADRIAN-AURORA-CONCORDIA (WI)-FINLANDIA-LAKE FOREST-LAWRENCE-MARIAN-MSOE-NORTHLAND-ST. NORBERT-ST. SCHOLASTICA

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                          • #58
                            Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                            For many Easterners, SNC IS the west. It's the team nobody wants to play for sure. Nobody else seems to have any lasting success. There are also twice as many eastern teams, which explains the 7 or 8 our of 11 in the tourney. By ratio it's fair. I've probably seen 15 western teams over the years and they're pretty good I agree. Having never won a game in the Primelink against elite eastern competition doesn't help your argument.

                            Adrian is hard to figure as they play virtually nobody during the season. They were impressive a few years back in the FF though. EC last year was like a semi-pro team with guys plucked from DI teams in a "win now" season. Hypothetically, if you put the top 5 eastern teams up against the top 5 western teams, the east is winning at least 3 IMO.

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                            • #59
                              Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                              in the 28 year history of D3 championship, 12 Champions have been from the WEST! in the same time frame 15 runners-up have been from the WEST! The West is doing OK even with the East bias in the Tourny seedings. The comments that UWEC some how went for it by loading up for last year is obsurd, the team was very close to the team of the year before.

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                              • #60
                                Re: 2013-14 Season predictions - the crystal bawl awards!!

                                Prediction: SNC will (finally) lose a game to what used to be a MCHA school...

                                Note: this doesn't include Lake Forest from its NCHA days but against the rest of the teams in the former MCHA, SNC is something like 56-0-2 all time.

                                If it does end, I hope it is before the Harris Cup title game...

                                And I hope it's not Lawrence. I like being perfect in 30+ games against them
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