Heenan Finalist for UAA job

[Fishman'81]

Re: Heenan Finalist for UAA job

Oh which it's been explained to you a million times how the ECAC West plays mostly creampuffs.....(see the 70% of games played against the lower end league teams). When they play against the tougher competition (the upper HALF) they are about a .500 league. So you want us to base the ECAC West off of their schedule against creampuff teams and not the tough competition right? Because beating all of those sub par teams and inflating the W-L records for the league makes you the best league. Therefor when you play each one of those teams 3 times you get to add in those inflated numbers.

People don't pick on Utica's schedule so much for WHO they play, they pick on the schedule because nearly 75% of their NC games over the past 6 or 7 years have been at home. You, just like your coach, tried saying "the Plattsburghs, Oswego's, and Norwich's are even worse" and when proven wrong time and time again you come up with some other lame excuse. But yes, since you mention it, Utica's schedule ISN'T the gods of all gods, sorry. When you take into condiseration their conference games SOS numbers are skewed (as explained above) it doesn't make for a highly tough schedule that's the toughest schedule of all schedules....those games with Salve Regina, Nichols, and WNE are just barn burners...

OK, fine...

But in your careful condiseration (sic), please tell me who in the East played a tougher schedule than Utica, in your opinion.

(That's at the crux of this silly ****ing-contest, and I haven't seen any of you fascinating trolls address that one salient point at all.)

[Fishman'81]

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I was trying to say that one could argue the NCHA's “equivalent league” to the ECAC-NE could be either the MIAC or the MCHA. Let's use the MCHA - as the NCHA played about the same number of games vs the MCHA (14) as the ECAC-W did against the ECAC-NE (13).

Then, let's take all their OOC games vs "lower half" teams from the other leagues. I just looked those games up - I believe the number adds up to 21. USCHO stats indicate the NCHA played 52 OOC games last season. 21 of those games were against “bottom half” teams and 14 were against the MCHA. To use the same "apples to apples" logic you used, you would say they played 35 of their 52 OC games against lower half teams or the MCHA (i.e. their equivalent to the ECAC-NE). That is 67%....or “almost 70%”.

So your original logic also can be applied to the same end when looking at the NCHA – do you think this means that the NCHA also has an “inflated SOS”?

BTW- My point is not to take anything away from the NCHA. I happen to consider them a powerhouse league and would argue that they were the best league in the country last year (as they have been in many other years). My point is it seems that your beef should be with the way SOS is calculated...not with the ECAC-W.

Kudos for fighting the good fight, and making sense.

My 2 cents on how SOS is calculated via KRACH: it's not that bad!

But let's wait to hear how Prof and PSU rate the '12/'13 SOS in the East... Might be interesting.

[Fishman'81]

Re: Heenan Finalist for UAA job

(Thought I'd hear the crickets on that one.)

[norm1909]

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(Thought I'd hear the crickets on that one.)

Too late in the year for bull head.

[Fishman'81]

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Most of them, anyway.

[The Real Georgia Peach]

Re: Heenan Finalist for UAA job

Just to keep up, this thread was hijacked back at post #27, the last time Heenan's name was mentioned in regards to his next job. BTW, does anybody know what Heenan will be doing next year?

[UCAlum32]

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Just to keep up, this thread was hijacked back at post #27, the last time Heenan's name was mentioned in regards to his next job. BTW, does anybody know what Heenan will be doing next year?

Will be back at UC

[jcase]

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Will be back at UC

...winning the national championship.

[joecct]

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...winning the national championship.

He'll need a few D-I transfers...

[Fishman'81]

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Just to keep up, this thread was hijacked back at post #27, the last time Heenan's name was mentioned in regards to his next job. BTW, does anybody know what Heenan will be doing next year?

As you have no doubt noticed, there are a few guys here who hijack every Utica thread as if it's their sworn duty...

Heenan is coming back, and UC, if it stays healthy, will be good. Utica has lost very little to graduation, and Gary came back from Alaska with some nice recruits.

My only concern regarding the upcoming season is how badly the presence of a rental AHL team will bugger-up UC's schedule... I'm guessing that it's going to be a mess.

[smbenny]

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Yes, it will probably mess up their schedule and force them to play a few games on the road. If I was Heenan, I'd be furious!

[elbojpb]

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My only concern regarding the upcoming season is how badly the presence of a rental AHL team will bugger-up UC's schedule... I'm guessing that it's going to be a mess.

Minor pro schedules are bi-modal in attempt to minimize the number of hotel nights for traveling teams into mid-week and weekend clusters. If the AHL is the primary tenant, then they'll dictate UC's available home dates. That being said ... enough NC teams want to play in front of a large crowd that it shouldn't be too big an obstacle. After all ... AHL teams are home - on average - only every other weekend.

[NUProf]

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Minor pro schedules are bi-modal in attempt to minimize the number of hotel nights for traveling teams into mid-week and weekend clusters. If the AHL is the primary tenant, then they'll dictate UC's available home dates. That being said ... enough NC teams want to play in front of a large crowd that it shouldn't be too big an obstacle. After all ... AHL teams are home - on average - only every other weekend.

That's because the schedule requires that every team play 50% of their games on the road, unlike the NCAA - which does not care who plays at home and who plays on the road.

[norm1909]

Re: Heenan Finalist for UAA job

Just to keep up, this thread was hijacked back at post #27, the last time Heenan's name was mentioned in regards to his next job. BTW, does anybody know what Heenan will be doing next year?

Watching the Comets.

[Fishman'81]

Re: Heenan Finalist for UAA job

Yes, it will probably mess up their schedule and force them to play a few games on the road. If I was Heenan, I'd be furious!

Good Lord, how many times do I have to ask you numbskulls who tirelessly berate UC's overall schedule to point-out who in the East plays a tougher one..? (Still waiting on that one.)

Hockey savants, please realize that nobody comes to Utica at gunpoint; they come for the payday and for SOS points... And nobody leaves here empty-handed, in either case.

My personal concern is that Utica will have fewer home games next season, and more "matinees"...

As much as I love watching D-3 hockey, I'm not going to forgo a good day of skiing just to accommodate The County's Quixotic obsession with making Utica an "AHL town". That is simply not going to work. I'll likely give-up my season tickets and pick my spots next year if that's the case, and I'm guessing that many other fans will be too busy to go to afternoon games, as well.

This short-sighted decision is going to result in a bad year for attendance in terms of both teams, IMO.