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  • #16
    Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

    Originally posted by norm1909 View Post
    Less than a week to Happy Valentine's day - Tuesday, February 14 First regional rankings (Publicized).
    Some 28 percent of all NCAA games end in a tie after regulation; 65 percent of those games remain tied after the 5-on-5, five-minute overtime used in four leagues
    Let's try 4x4 for 10 minutes. But, because we're playing the OT differently than how you played regulation, you then have to go to 3 point games. After the 10 minutes, go to the IIHF or USA Hockey (but not the NHL) shootout.

    BTW, if you check the tournament handbook it says for the # of ranked teams:
    East - 14
    West - 7

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    • #17
      Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

      Originally posted by joecct View Post
      Let's try 4x4 for 10 minutes. But, because we're playing the OT differently than how you played regulation, you then have to go to 3 point games. After the 10 minutes, go to the IIHF or USA Hockey (but not the NHL) shootout.

      BTW, if you check the tournament handbook it says for the # of ranked teams:
      East - 14
      West - 7

      Misprint??
      Elsewhere it say East 14, West 8
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      • #18
        Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

        The NCAA has launched a new public (no passwords required) portal to their site.

        Their "Resources" page is here

        Slightly off topic, but a really good story on "How concussions are impacting the players— and the sport itself" is here.
        Last edited by norm1909; 02-14-2012, 09:16 AM.
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        • #19
          Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

          DIII working group to consider recruiting parameters

          ...
          Fueling the arms-race recruiting environment are institutions that rely on athletics to boost enrollment, a number of growing technological resources, and an accelerated youth sports culture dominated by travel teams more than the traditional scholastic approach.

          At the Convention session, the two primary issues that were cited as potential areas where NCAA rules could help were recruiting calendars and evaluations at nonscholastic events. The calendars could provide welcome work/life boundaries for Division III coaches, while evaluations at nonscholastic events could help with recruiting efficiencies, though perhaps at a cost. While some attendees at the Convention session appeared to like the convenience of the “one-stop shopping” of nonscholastic events, others were concerned about how club sports are evolving, squeezing out scholastic sports and fueling the sport-specialization culture, which could be viewed as inherently counter to the Division III philosophy.

          While the Interpretations and Legislation Committee recognized the importance of both concerns, members acknowledged that any review of the recruiting environment likely would be much broader. As to the nonscholastic events specifically, the ILC recognized the importance of knowing which sports are more greatly influenced by the club sports scene, as well as how home-schooled students would be affected.

          The committee is suggesting a working-group model because the recruiting environment involves so many areas of the campus, especially given that student-athletes make up a quarter or a third of the student body at most Division III schools. The ILC recommends including admissions personnel and enrollment VPs in addition to athletics administrators and coaches. In addition, the committee would like working group members to include those who wear several hats on campus (for example, an AD who also coaches, or a coach who also handles compliance, or who also coaches a youth or club team).

          ...
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          • #20
            Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

            Added, the 2012 NCAA ICE HOCKEY CHAMPIONSHIPS MANUAL (Includes Host Operations Manual)

            Beginning with the 2011-12 season, the host institution is not responsible for the NCAA site rep expenses. The site
            representative will be compensated by the NCAA.
            Beginning with the 2011-12 season, all officials will be paid using the Arbiter Sports RefPay system. The host personnel will
            not be responsible for adding officials fees to their budget.
            Did Brucey do that?

            ANNOUNCEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE GAME AND INTERMISSION
            ●● Fans, don’t forget to purchase championship merchandise (Today/Tonight) from the NCAA team shop(s) located in __
            ________________________________________. (Host to add site specific info)

            ●● The NCAA experience offers official fan ticket and hospitality packages for selected NCAA Championships. Visit
            NCAA.com/hospitality (N-C-A-A DOT COM SLASH HOSPITALITY) for more information.

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            (N-C-A-A DOT COM SLASH TRAVEL) to make arrangements to follow your team throughout the tournament.

            ●● Log on to NCAA.com (N-C-A-A DOT COM) and click on “Your Opinion Counts” to give us feedback on your experience
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            ●● NCAA on campus highlights the commitment of the NCAA to the education and welfare of its student-athletes in all
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            • #21
              Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

              Originally posted by joecct View Post
              Let's try 4x4 for 10 minutes.
              Yes!! 4x4 for 10 will get you a winner much more often than not, especially if you switch ends.

              But, because we're playing the OT differently than how you played regulation, you then have to go to 3 point games. After the 10 minutes, go to the IIHF or USA Hockey (but not the NHL) shootout.
              No. No points for losing. We are not fat kids at Field Day. And if you insist on going to a shootout, eliminate anything for ties and go straight to W-L. If we're so hell-bent on determining winners, let's score it as such.
              Last edited by Hammer; 03-06-2012, 07:29 PM.
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              • #22
                Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

                Originally posted by Hammer View Post
                Originally Posted by joecct
                Let's try 4x4 for 10 minutes.
                Yes!! 4x4 for 10 will get you a winner much more often than not, especially if you switch ends.

                But, because we're playing the OT differently than how you played regulation, you then have to go to 3 point games. After the 10 minutes, go to the IIHF or USA Hockey (but not the NHL) shootout.

                No. No points for losing. We are not fat kids at Field Day. And if you insist on going to a shootout, eliminate anything for ties and go straight to W-L. If we're so hell-bent on determining winners, let's score it as such.
                I agree and disagree. If the game ends on the ice, regardless of whether the OT is 4X4 it has still been won. If the 10 4X4 with the long change doesn't produce a winner just call it a tie. With that system there would be a lot fewer ties. If you insist on a shootout fine, but do use the three point system 3 points for a win, 0 for a loss if the game is settled before the shootout. 2 points for a shootout win, 1 point for a shootout loss.
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                • #23
                  Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

                  Originally posted by NUProf View Post
                  I agree and disagree. If the game ends on the ice, regardless of whether the OT is 4X4 it has still been won. If the 10 4X4 with the long change doesn't produce a winner just call it a tie. With that system there would be a lot fewer ties.
                  I am completely on board here.

                  If you insist on a shootout fine, but do use the three point system 3 points for a win, 0 for a loss if the game is settled before the shootout. 2 points for a shootout win, 1 point for a shootout loss.
                  I guess my point is that if we are going to a shootout, we want to determine a winner and a loser. If you win, you should get the full benefit of such, and vice-versa. A team could conceivably get zero shots on goal and miss the net by 10 feet on every shootout attempt, and get rewarded with a point. Now, this is admittedly completely ridiculous and never going to happen, but I just do not like rewarding losses.

                  I am completely anti-shootout, especially if we're rewarding teams that get beat, since someone somewhere wants a winner so badly. We forget about the other end of it.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

                    Just added (to the first post): 2012 NCAA Official Ice Hockey Statistics Rules
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                    • #25
                      Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

                      Originally posted by Hammer View Post
                      I am completely on board here.



                      I guess my point is that if we are going to a shootout, we want to determine a winner and a loser. If you win, you should get the full benefit of such, and vice-versa. A team could conceivably get zero shots on goal and miss the net by 10 feet on every shootout attempt, and get rewarded with a point. Now, this is admittedly completely ridiculous and never going to happen, but I just do not like rewarding losses.

                      I am completely anti-shootout, especially if we're rewarding teams that get beat, since someone somewhere wants a winner so badly. We forget about the other end of it.
                      I'm not that wild about a shoot out, but I guess if the two teams have played 70 minutes on the ice to a standstill it's fairer to regard the game as a tie, but if you don't and insist that there has to be a winner, the shootout winner doesn't really deserve as much credit as a team that won a game by scoring a goal in the course of play. However all games should contribute the same number of points to the standings, so one team gets 2 points, it means the losers have to get 1. I really don't like the soccer system.
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                      • #26
                        Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

                        I guess my point is, if we're so bent on having a winner, let's get rid of the point system and go straight to W-L. Otherwise there's no need for the shootout.

                        In the CCHA, my alma mater, Ferris State, finished with a 16-7-5-1 record. Friends, that is not a W-L record. That is a locker combination.
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                        • #27
                          Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

                          Originally posted by Hammer View Post
                          I guess my point is, if we're so bent on having a winner, let's get rid of the point system and go straight to W-L. Otherwise there's no need for the shootout.

                          In the CCHA, my alma mater, Ferris State, finished with a 16-7-5-1 record. Friends, that is not a W-L record. That is a locker combination.
                          16 is wins, but what are the other things?
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                          • #28
                            Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

                            Originally posted by nuprof View Post
                            16 is wins, but what are the other things?
                            win - loss - tie - shootout win*

                            CCHA Conference games tied after 65 minutes advance to a three-player shootout with the winning team receiving an extra point in the standings.
                            Last edited by norm1909; 03-06-2012, 08:31 PM.
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                            • #29
                              Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

                              Losses, ties and shootout wins. It's ridiculous.

                              You starting to see what I mean, now?
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                              • #30
                                Re: Links to Current NCAA Hockey Manuals (2012)

                                Originally posted by norm1909 View Post
                                CCHA Conference games tied after 65 minutes advance to a three-player shootout with the winning team receiving an extra point in the standings.
                                And yet in the NCAA's eyes it is regarded as a tie. Now how is the NCAA going to do this if everyone goes to a shootout? We're making a bigger mess than the one we're trying to clean up here.
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