A Solution for the "Fighting" Sioux, Denver's Boone, and Other "Lost" Mascots...

[Osorojo]

Re: A Solution for the "Fighting" Sioux, Denver's Boone, and Other "Lost" Mascots...

Knights, Utes, Cowboys, Bozos, Mariners, Canadiens, Dimwits, Yankees, Irish, even Redskins - all are collective, non specific nouns and the law deems members or wanna-be members of such groups are not harmed by misuse or profitable use of these names. To belabor the obvious: you can call your outfit "The Fighting Warriors" or "The Fighting Soldiers," but you can't call them "The Fighting U.S. Marines" no matter how much money an alum donates.
"Sioux" and "Seminole" are two specific nouns which denote specific, discrete groups of people with common social, tribal and economic interests. Unauthorized public use of their names would seem to constitute identity theft. Sports fans are assuredly tribal in nature, but let them create their own identities and totems rather than pirate and rely upon the reputations of others.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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Knights, Utes, Cowboys, Bozos, Mariners, Canadiens, Dimwits, Yankees, Irish, even Redskins - all are collective, non specific nouns and the law deems members or wanna-be members of such groups are not harmed by misuse or profitable use of these names. To belabor the obvious: you can call your outfit "The Fighting Warriors" or "The Fighting Soldiers," but you can't call them "The Fighting U.S. Marines" no matter how much money an alum donates.
"Sioux" and "Seminole" are two specific nouns which denote specific, discrete groups of people with common social, tribal and economic interests. Unauthorized public use of their names would seem to constitute identity theft. Sports fans are assuredly tribal in nature, but let them create their own identities and totems rather than pirate and rely upon the reputations of others.

Funny how a specific and discrete group is comprised of three, completely different tribes.

[Dirty]

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Opening a credit card in the name Osorojo would be identity theft. Creating a username Osorojo_ and making dumbarse comments would be identity theft. Naming a sports team the Sioux or Seminoles is not identity theft.

[Osorojo]

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"Seminole" and "Sioux" denote groups legally recognized by United States law. The U.S. even has formal treaties with these groups (but not with "The Fighting Irish.") The posters above have a remarkably liberal attitude toward appropriating another group's LEGAL identity and using it as their own.
Would these neo-liberals be as open minded if NAMABLA were to adopt the nickname "North Dakota State University Hockey Brawlers" and peddle clothing, curios and articles bearing this nickname and who-knows-what graphics?

[Runninwiththedogs]

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over?

Was it over when ralph engelstad bombed pearl harbor?? Hell no!!

fyp.

[bigmrg74]

Question? What if a school was to rename itself as the Area Clowns? Would this cause any problems with any Clown Unions perhaps?

[Dirty]

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Would these neo-liberals be as open minded if NAMABLA were to adopt the nickname "North Dakota State University Hockey Brawlers" and peddle clothing, curios and articles bearing this nickname and who-knows-what graphics?

Hell yes. I'm for anything and everything that reflects poorly on NDSU.

[Erix_The_Red]

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even Redskins

This is where you lost me. This is the only current team name that actually is very offensive. Yet it's okay by you.

More examples:
The Texans are a specific group of people that have formal treaties with the US govt.
The Canadiens as well
The San Diego State Aztecs?

And don't make this political, "Uuuhh the neo-liberals uhh so much sand in my vagina" (sorry for the expression ladies). this is about not being such a goddam wimp, growing a sac (again, sorry ladies) and just playing some hockey.

It is also my understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that the local Sioux love the team and see it as a source of great pride.

[darker98]

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Would these neo-liberals be as open minded if NAMABLA were to adopt the nickname ?

Did you get that name off the card in your wallet? We all know you don't google so that's not how you got it.

[Erix_The_Red]

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Question? What if a school was to rename itself as the Area Clowns? Would this cause any problems with any Clown Unions perhaps?)

Excellent point. Do the Steelers require the constant approval of USW to keep their name?

[darker98]

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It is also my understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that the local Sioux love the team and see it as a source of great pride.

Yes, One tribe has given it's approval and the other hasn't been allowed to vote on it. It's my understanding that they'd approve if they put it to a vote.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: A Solution for the "Fighting" Sioux, Denver's Boone, and Other "Lost" Mascots...

"Seminole" and "Sioux" denote groups legally recognized by United States law. The U.S. even has formal treaties with these groups (but not with "The Fighting Irish.") The posters above have a remarkably liberal attitude toward appropriating another group's LEGAL identity and using it as their own.
Would these neo-liberals be as open minded if NAMABLA were to adopt the nickname "North Dakota State University Hockey Brawlers" and peddle clothing, curios and articles bearing this nickname and who-knows-what graphics?

I suppose we'd have to find out with NAMABLA is. North American Men Against Boy Love Association?

The thing is "Sioux" is a general term. It is composed of three specific tribes, the Dakota, Lakota and Nakota.

Here is the list of Federally Recognized Tribes by the United States...

http://www.artnatam.com/tribes.html

You'll notice over 300 different tribes...including Utes (which you said was fine in an earlier post).

[bigblue_dl]

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Why is it that posters like Osorojo and hokydad always show up and send a perfectly good thread down the ****ter?

[darker98]

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Why is it that posters like Osorojo and hokydad always show up and send a perfectly good thread down the ****ter?

If they had an IQ limit before you could post would take care of the madness. Just has to be low enough the Goon and I can slip by, but keep these jokers out.

[Erix_The_Red]

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You'll notice over 300 different tribes...including Utes (which you said was fine in an earlier post).

Ba-mother fcuking-zing!