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  • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

    Originally posted by Driftryder View Post
    It should build into a frenzy by the top 20 or so.
    Yeah, it's gonna get real fun. I have to admit, I check hourly to see if Sioux has added a team. I am assuming my Bobcats will be coming up soon, I'm a bit surprised we haven't seen them yet, I'd have to guess their winning percentage and one tourny trip has put them off this long. Keep up the good work Sioux, this thread's cool.
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    • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

      Three of the bottom 14 (Merrimack, Union, Nebraska-Omaha) would be a 1 or 2 seed in the NCAAs if the season ended today. Found that interesting.
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      • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

        Originally posted by Driftryder View Post
        It should build into a frenzy by the top 20 or so.
        Yeah, I'm sure it will.

        For those following so closely, here is my plan (not saying that it WILL happen, but a plan):

        Today, Tuesday, Feb. 15: #44 - #31
        Wednesday, Feb. 16: #30-#21
        Thursday, Feb. 17: #20-#11
        Friday, Feb. 18: #10-#1

        It may stretch into Saturday depending on my schedule. I photoshop each team's graphics, which doesn't take terribly long, but...I work too
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        • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

          Originally posted by allnightwong View Post
          Yeah, it's gonna get real fun. I have to admit, I check hourly to see if Sioux has added a team. I am assuming my Bobcats will be coming up soon, I'm a bit surprised we haven't seen them yet, I'd have to guess their winning percentage and one tourny trip has put them off this long. Keep up the good work Sioux, this thread's cool.
          I agree, it should be a interesting read.

          Keep up the good work fightingsioux23 even though I have to hate you and the goons from the barren wasteland.
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          • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

            Originally posted by Federal League View Post
            Three of the bottom 14 (Merrimack, Union, Nebraska-Omaha) would be a 1 or 2 seed in the NCAAs if the season ended today. Found that interesting.
            Yeah, it shows the parity in college hockey over the last few years. Programs that had never really done much of anything are now competing to be top dogs.
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            • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

              Originally posted by Driftryder View Post
              I agree, it should be a interesting read.

              Keep up the good work fightingsioux23 even though I have to hate you and the goons from the barren wasteland.
              I understand.
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              • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                *****http://www.undhockey.net/mercy.jpg******

                Mercyhurst is the first 3-time NCAA Tournament team on the list so far. The Lakers were a dominant force in their short time in the MAAC, and had early success in the Atlantic Hockey conference, going to 3 NCAA Tournament in a 5 year span. While they were never able to pull off an upset, they came close in '05, nearly beating #1 seed Boston College. Mercyhurst had a solid '08-'09 campaign before struggling a bit last season. I have a feeling that the Lakers will be in another tournament soon. They have been relatively consistent, putting up 20+ win seasons in 6 of their first 10 years at the D-1 level.

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                #45 Merrimack - 3.1402 Points
                #46 Massachusetts - 3.0035 Points
                #47 Alaska - 2.9892 Points
                #48 Nebraska Omaha - 2.9092 Points
                #49 Minnesota State - 2.3131 points
                #50 Alabama Huntsville - 1.9469 Points
                #51 Army - 1.3604 points
                #52 Union - 0.6174 points
                #53 UConn - 0.1921 Points
                #54 Sacred Heart - 0.1703 Points
                #55 Bentley - .0279 points
                #56 Robert Morris - .0245 points
                #57 Canisius - .0205 points
                #58 American International - .0061 points
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                • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                  What do all these teams so far have in common?!?

                  They've all been invited to spend the holidays playing in the dodge classic!!
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                  • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                    Based on recent USCHO attitudes, I can safely conclude that Ylae* is already ranked at least 16 spots too high

                    Keep up the interesting work FS23
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                    • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                      Originally posted by darker98 View Post
                      I didn't expect the scratching and hair pulling this early.
                      You didn't? This is USCHO. I expected far worse... this is going swimmingly.
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                      • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                        Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                        What do all these teams so far have in common?!?

                        They've all been invited to spend the holidays playing in the dodge classic!!
                        True, we're here to help.
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                        • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                          Originally posted by dmjossel View Post
                          To speak of intangibles, Merrimack has had a hockey team almost as long as it has existed as a school. It's the school's #1 sport, and they are the smallest college (by enrollment) that plays at the division 1 level, and in a top league, besides. It's also a small, young liberal arts college-- not a state university with a multimillion dollar facility.

                          I don't know that that the author takes any of those things into consideration, either, but I know I sure do.




                          The author mentioned Merrimack's potential NCAA berth this season, so I'm assuming he is counting this year.

                          Even in the past five years, UMass has only one season above .500.

                          In the past five years, Merrimack has had only one season above .500-- this one.

                          Umass had two .500 or better seasons in the five years before that, where Merrimack had none. In fact, you've got to go back before Hockey East to find the last season over .500. That was still division 1, though-- just as an Independent. Merrimack had five seasons as an Independent, playing a mixed schedule, and were above .500 all five seasons.

                          So, Merrimack has been pretty bad for quite a long time, up until the last two seasons, but they were also quite good in the mid-late 80s, aside from the D2 national championship and ECAC championships prior to that.

                          UMass has been perhaps not quite so terrible for not quite so long, and was respectable more recently (2006-7) but they did go eight consecutive seasons after joining Hockey East below not just .500 but below .400.

                          The gap between the teams might be different if we looked at league finishes, I'm not sure-- at some point, if you're 9-10 out of a ten-team league it may not matter all that much if you win one game, or three games, or five games-- and both programs have been in that situation more than once in the last decade.





                          I would have, but I'm a Merrimack grad and a fan of the team since before 1988. Also, by 2009 Merrimack had DaCosta on the roster, and once he announced he was coming back to school I definitely would have picked Merrimack to be that 3rd place team and not Umass.

                          Although 3rd place might have been considered unlikely for either team prior to the season, the USCHO season preview and the Hockey East coaches' poll all picked Merrimack to finish ahead of Umass this season; MC was 7th in the coaches poll, and UMass 9th. So just based on that, if either one of them was to have a breakout season and finish much higher, I'd have still guessed Merrimack and not Amherst.
                          Do you have any enrollment figures for the current school year? I know Merrimack is usually in the neighborhood of 2600-2700 students, but Lake State's enrollment last year according to Michigan's state university report was 2509 and I understand the enrollment this year to be 2,568, although that hasn't been confirmed by the state because I don't think the university report is out yet for the current school year..If Merrimack is around their usual enrollment then Lake Superior State is the smallest d1 hockey school by enrollment..

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                          • Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                            I understand.
                            Great list so far. Can't wait to see the top 10
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                            • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                              *****http://www.undhockey.net/quin.jpg******

                              Quinnipiac comes in at #43. The Bobcats have been a very solid program since joining the D-1 Ranks in '99. They have yet to have a losing season, and have piled up 9 20+ win seasons in their 11 years so far at the D-1 level. They actually rank in the top 15 for all-time winning percentage as well. For all that success, they have only made 1 NCAA Tournament appearance (2002, as the Quinnipiac Braves). If the Bobcats can continue winning 20+ games/season, we will likely see them in the NCAA tournament more often. For now though, Quinnipiac sits at #43.

                              #43 Quinnipiac - 3.8994 Points
                              #44 Mercyhurst - 3.468 Points
                              #45 Merrimack - 3.1402 Points
                              #46 Massachusetts - 3.0035 Points
                              #47 Alaska - 2.9892 Points
                              #48 Nebraska Omaha - 2.9092 Points
                              #49 Minnesota State - 2.3131 points
                              #50 Alabama Huntsville - 1.9469 Points
                              #51 Army - 1.3604 points
                              #52 Union - 0.6174 points
                              #53 UConn - 0.1921 Points
                              #54 Sacred Heart - 0.1703 Points
                              #55 Bentley - .0279 points
                              #56 Robert Morris - .0245 points
                              #57 Canisius - .0205 points
                              #58 American International - .0061 points
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                              • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                                Originally posted by Federal League View Post
                                Three of the bottom 14 (Merrimack, Union, Nebraska-Omaha) would be a 1 or 2 seed in the NCAAs if the season ended today. Found that interesting.
                                What he said.

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