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  • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

    Originally posted by Runninwiththedogs View Post
    23 years as an assistant coach? That's a LONG time. I understand why Tech would want him, but many teams considering hiring a first-time head coach will want someone younger, more energetic, and more ambitious. Long time assistants start to look like damaged goods.
    I was thinking the same thing about Steve Miller, DU's assistant, he has been coaching under Gwoz for 20 years. Anyone know if there is any interest in him?
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    • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

      Coming in at #8...

      Michigan State
      2009-2010 Final Ranking: 8
      2009-2010 Final Points: 231.4699
      2010-2011 Points Earned: 1.8947
      2010-2011 Final Points: 233.3646
      Percent Change: +0.82%

      2010-2011 Final Ranking: 8

      #09 - Maine
      #10 - Michigan Tech
      #11 - Lake Superior State
      #12 - Cornell
      #13 - Colorado College
      #14 - Clarkson
      #15 - Harvard
      #16 - Minnesota Duluth (+4)
      #17 - RPI (-1)
      #18 - Northern Michigan
      #19 - New Hampshire
      #20 - Bowling Green (-3)
      #21 - St. Lawrence
      #22 - Miami (+1)
      #23 - Providence (-1)
      #24 - Notre Dame (+1)
      #25 - Dartmouth (-1)
      #26 - Yale
      #27 - Colgate
      #28 - Northeastern
      #29 - Brown
      #30 - Ohio State
      #31 - Vermont
      #32 - St. Cloud State
      #33 - Bemidji State
      #34 - RIT
      #35 - Ferris State
      #36 - UMASS-Lowell
      #37 - Niagara
      #38 - Western Michigan
      #39 - Alaska Anchorage (+2)
      #40 - Princeton (-1)
      #41 - Holy Cross (-1)
      #42 - Air Force
      #43 - Quinnipiac
      #44 - Merrimack (+1)
      #45 - Nebraska Omaha (+3)
      #46 - Mercyhurst (-2)
      #47 - Alaska
      #48 - UMASS (-2)
      #49 - Mankato
      #50 - Alabama Huntsville
      #51 - Union (+1)
      #52 - Army (-1)
      #53 - UCONN
      #54 - Sacred Heart
      #55 - Bentley
      #56 - Robert Morris
      #57 - Canisius
      #58 - American International
      Last edited by Fighting Sioux 23; 04-24-2011, 09:39 PM. Reason: 2010-2011 Final Ranking should be 8
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      • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

        Originally posted by UncleRay
        8 or 9?
        whoops. 8. I will edit.
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        • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

          Big point gap between 8 and 9. At the end if you could post the full list with total points and some other pertinent info that would be interesting to see.

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            Coming in at #7...

            Boston College
            2009-2010 Final Ranking: 7
            2009-2010 Final Points: 303.0755
            2010-2011 Points Earned: 7.1742
            2010-2011 Final Points: 310.2497
            Percent Change: +2.37%

            2010-2011 Final Ranking: 7

            #08 - Michigan State
            #09 - Maine
            #10 - Michigan Tech
            #11 - Lake Superior State
            #12 - Cornell
            #13 - Colorado College
            #14 - Clarkson
            #15 - Harvard
            #16 - Minnesota Duluth (+4)
            #17 - RPI (-1)
            #18 - Northern Michigan
            #19 - New Hampshire
            #20 - Bowling Green (-3)
            #21 - St. Lawrence
            #22 - Miami (+1)
            #23 - Providence (-1)
            #24 - Notre Dame (+1)
            #25 - Dartmouth (-1)
            #26 - Yale
            #27 - Colgate
            #28 - Northeastern
            #29 - Brown
            #30 - Ohio State
            #31 - Vermont
            #32 - St. Cloud State
            #33 - Bemidji State
            #34 - RIT
            #35 - Ferris State
            #36 - UMASS-Lowell
            #37 - Niagara
            #38 - Western Michigan
            #39 - Alaska Anchorage (+2)
            #40 - Princeton (-1)
            #41 - Holy Cross (-1)
            #42 - Air Force
            #43 - Quinnipiac
            #44 - Merrimack (+1)
            #45 - Nebraska Omaha (+3)
            #46 - Mercyhurst (-2)
            #47 - Alaska
            #48 - UMASS (-2)
            #49 - Mankato
            #50 - Alabama Huntsville
            #51 - Union (+1)
            #52 - Army (-1)
            #53 - UCONN
            #54 - Sacred Heart
            #55 - Bentley
            #56 - Robert Morris
            #57 - Canisius
            #58 - American International
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            • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

              I have a feeling DU leapfrogged Wisconsin for #5 and the Badgers dropped a spot to #6. After that everyone stays as from last year.

              Last season's top 6
              #1 Michigan - 475.5292 Points
              #2 North Dakota - 414.1636 Points
              #3 Minnesota – 397.684 Points
              #4 Boston University - 345.005 Points
              #5 Wisconsin - 334.9305 Points
              #6 Denver - 333.3811 Points
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              • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                Originally posted by du78 View Post
                I have a feeling DU leapfrogged Wisconsin for #5 and the Badgers dropped a spot to #6. After that everyone stays as from last year.

                Last season's top 6
                #1 Michigan - 475.5292 Points
                #2 North Dakota - 414.1636 Points
                #3 Minnesota - 397.684 Points
                #4 Boston University - 345.005 Points
                #5 Wisconsin - 334.9305 Points
                #6 Denver - 333.3811 Points
                I expect you are correct. My guess is that UW increased by about 5 pts and DU increased by about 7 (based mostly off UMD winning the NC and DU making the NCAA while UW didn't). Both will be in striking distance of BU next season for #4. UND will have extended it's lead over MN for #2 and closed the gap on UMI a bit.

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                  Originally posted by Almington View Post
                  I expect you are correct. My guess is that UW increased by about 5 pts and DU increased by about 7 (based mostly off UMD winning the NC and DU making the NCAA while UW didn't). Both will be in striking distance of BU next season for #4. UND will have extended it's lead over MN for #2 and closed the gap on UMI a bit.
                  Couldn't have closed the gap too far on MI. DU may very well be in striking distance of BU this year, though missing the FF probably will keep BU ahead slightly.
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                  • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                    Originally posted by slurpees View Post
                    Couldn't have closed the gap too far on MI. DU may very well be in striking distance of BU this year, though missing the FF probably will keep BU ahead slightly.
                    UND will get a boost for having a very good record all-time vs. UMD. Why do you think Tech got more points in this list than wins this year?
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                    • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                      Originally posted by bigblue_dl View Post
                      UND will get a boost for having a very good record all-time vs. UMD. Why do you think Tech got more points in this list than wins this year?
                      ah, i forgot that was part of the formula.
                      time to write new history

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                      • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                        Plus UND won their conference playoff championship which Michigan did not do.
                        I was thinking that UND might have closed the gap by ~10 points or so.

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                        • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                          Originally posted by bigblue_dl View Post
                          UND will get a boost for having a very good record all-time vs. UMD. Why do you think Tech got more points in this list than wins this year?
                          Michigan's record isn't as good as UND's record against UMD but they will probably still get a boost from it.
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                          • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                            Originally posted by Biddco View Post


                            UMD has many all time series like that. UND and UMTC come to mind.
                            They only teams UMD is close to 0.500 against are Alaska Anchorage, Nebraska-Omaha, Colorado College, Mankato State, Bemidji State and St. Cloud State. Without looking, I think UMD is above 0.500 against UAA, Bemidji, Mankato and UNO. Everyone else in the WCHA has a 10 to 60 game advantage in the win column. This will happen when you're a small D2/D3 school and you start a D-1 program in a region and in an era dominated by Michigan Tech, Minnesota, Michigan, Denver and North Dakota.

                            Colorado College and, strangely, Michigan are the only original WCHA team that UMD is even close to 0.500 against (79-84-7 and 18-23-1, respectively).
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                            • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                              Originally posted by UMDbulldogs#1 View Post
                              They only teams UMD is close to 0.500 against are Alaska Anchorage, Nebraska-Omaha, Colorado College, Mankato State, Bemidji State and St. Cloud State. Without looking, I think UMD is above 0.500 against UAA, Bemidji, Mankato and UNO. Everyone else in the WCHA has a 10 to 60 game advantage in the win column. This will happen when you're a small D2/D3 school and you start a D-1 program in a region and in an era dominated by Michigan Tech, Minnesota, Michigan, Denver and North Dakota.

                              Colorado College and, strangely, Michigan are the only original WCHA team that UMD is even close to 0.500 against (79-84-7 and 18-23-1, respectively).
                              UMD didn't even make the NCAA's until 1984, some 23 years after joining DI and the WCHA.
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                              • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                                Coming in at #6...

                                Wisconsin
                                2009-2010 Final Ranking: 5
                                2009-2010 Final Points: 334.9305
                                2010-2011 Points Earned: 4.6446
                                2010-2011 Final Points: 339.5751
                                Percent Change: +1.39%

                                2010-2011 Final Ranking: 6

                                #07 - Boston College
                                #08 - Michigan State
                                #09 - Maine
                                #10 - Michigan Tech
                                #11 - Lake Superior State
                                #12 - Cornell
                                #13 - Colorado College
                                #14 - Clarkson
                                #15 - Harvard
                                #16 - Minnesota Duluth (+4)
                                #17 - RPI (-1)
                                #18 - Northern Michigan
                                #19 - New Hampshire
                                #20 - Bowling Green (-3)
                                #21 - St. Lawrence
                                #22 - Miami (+1)
                                #23 - Providence (-1)
                                #24 - Notre Dame (+1)
                                #25 - Dartmouth (-1)
                                #26 - Yale
                                #27 - Colgate
                                #28 - Northeastern
                                #29 - Brown
                                #30 - Ohio State
                                #31 - Vermont
                                #32 - St. Cloud State
                                #33 - Bemidji State
                                #34 - RIT
                                #35 - Ferris State
                                #36 - UMASS-Lowell
                                #37 - Niagara
                                #38 - Western Michigan
                                #39 - Alaska Anchorage (+2)
                                #40 - Princeton (-1)
                                #41 - Holy Cross (-1)
                                #42 - Air Force
                                #43 - Quinnipiac
                                #44 - Merrimack (+1)
                                #45 - Nebraska Omaha (+3)
                                #46 - Mercyhurst (-2)
                                #47 - Alaska
                                #48 - UMASS (-2)
                                #49 - Mankato
                                #50 - Alabama Huntsville
                                #51 - Union (+1)
                                #52 - Army (-1)
                                #53 - UCONN
                                #54 - Sacred Heart
                                #55 - Bentley
                                #56 - Robert Morris
                                #57 - Canisius
                                #58 - American International
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