The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

[badgerhawk]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

23 years as an assistant coach? That's a LONG time. I understand why Tech would want him, but many teams considering hiring a first-time head coach will want someone younger, more energetic, and more ambitious. Long time assistants start to look like damaged goods.

I was thinking the same thing about Steve Miller, DU's assistant, he has been coaching under Gwoz for 20 years. Anyone know if there is any interest in him?

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

Coming in at #8...

Michigan State
2009-2010 Final Ranking: 8
2009-2010 Final Points: 231.4699
2010-2011 Points Earned: 1.8947
2010-2011 Final Points: 233.3646
Percent Change: +0.82%

2010-2011 Final Ranking: 8

#09 - Maine
#10 - Michigan Tech
#11 - Lake Superior State
#12 - Cornell
#13 - Colorado College
#14 - Clarkson
#15 - Harvard
#16 - Minnesota Duluth (+4)
#17 - RPI (-1)
#18 - Northern Michigan
#19 - New Hampshire
#20 - Bowling Green (-3)
#21 - St. Lawrence
#22 - Miami (+1)
#23 - Providence (-1)
#24 - Notre Dame (+1)
#25 - Dartmouth (-1)
#26 - Yale
#27 - Colgate
#28 - Northeastern
#29 - Brown
#30 - Ohio State
#31 - Vermont
#32 - St. Cloud State
#33 - Bemidji State
#34 - RIT
#35 - Ferris State
#36 - UMASS-Lowell
#37 - Niagara
#38 - Western Michigan
#39 - Alaska Anchorage (+2)
#40 - Princeton (-1)
#41 - Holy Cross (-1)
#42 - Air Force
#43 - Quinnipiac
#44 - Merrimack (+1)
#45 - Nebraska Omaha (+3)
#46 - Mercyhurst (-2)
#47 - Alaska
#48 - UMASS (-2)
#49 - Mankato
#50 - Alabama Huntsville
#51 - Union (+1)
#52 - Army (-1)
#53 - UCONN
#54 - Sacred Heart
#55 - Bentley
#56 - Robert Morris
#57 - Canisius
#58 - American International

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

8 or 9?

whoops. 8. I will edit.

[giwan]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

Big point gap between 8 and 9. At the end if you could post the full list with total points and some other pertinent info that would be interesting to see.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

Coming in at #7...

Boston College
2009-2010 Final Ranking: 7
2009-2010 Final Points: 303.0755
2010-2011 Points Earned: 7.1742
2010-2011 Final Points: 310.2497
Percent Change: +2.37%

2010-2011 Final Ranking: 7

#08 - Michigan State
#09 - Maine
#10 - Michigan Tech
#11 - Lake Superior State
#12 - Cornell
#13 - Colorado College
#14 - Clarkson
#15 - Harvard
#16 - Minnesota Duluth (+4)
#17 - RPI (-1)
#18 - Northern Michigan
#19 - New Hampshire
#20 - Bowling Green (-3)
#21 - St. Lawrence
#22 - Miami (+1)
#23 - Providence (-1)
#24 - Notre Dame (+1)
#25 - Dartmouth (-1)
#26 - Yale
#27 - Colgate
#28 - Northeastern
#29 - Brown
#30 - Ohio State
#31 - Vermont
#32 - St. Cloud State
#33 - Bemidji State
#34 - RIT
#35 - Ferris State
#36 - UMASS-Lowell
#37 - Niagara
#38 - Western Michigan
#39 - Alaska Anchorage (+2)
#40 - Princeton (-1)
#41 - Holy Cross (-1)
#42 - Air Force
#43 - Quinnipiac
#44 - Merrimack (+1)
#45 - Nebraska Omaha (+3)
#46 - Mercyhurst (-2)
#47 - Alaska
#48 - UMASS (-2)
#49 - Mankato
#50 - Alabama Huntsville
#51 - Union (+1)
#52 - Army (-1)
#53 - UCONN
#54 - Sacred Heart
#55 - Bentley
#56 - Robert Morris
#57 - Canisius
#58 - American International

[du78]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

I have a feeling DU leapfrogged Wisconsin for #5 and the Badgers dropped a spot to #6. After that everyone stays as from last year.

Last season's top 6
#1 Michigan - 475.5292 Points
#2 North Dakota - 414.1636 Points
#3 Minnesota – 397.684 Points
#4 Boston University - 345.005 Points
#5 Wisconsin - 334.9305 Points
#6 Denver - 333.3811 Points

[Almington]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

I have a feeling DU leapfrogged Wisconsin for #5 and the Badgers dropped a spot to #6. After that everyone stays as from last year.

Last season's top 6
#1 Michigan - 475.5292 Points
#2 North Dakota - 414.1636 Points
#3 Minnesota - 397.684 Points
#4 Boston University - 345.005 Points
#5 Wisconsin - 334.9305 Points
#6 Denver - 333.3811 Points

I expect you are correct. My guess is that UW increased by about 5 pts and DU increased by about 7 (based mostly off UMD winning the NC and DU making the NCAA while UW didn't). Both will be in striking distance of BU next season for #4. UND will have extended it's lead over MN for #2 and closed the gap on UMI a bit.

[slurpees]

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I expect you are correct. My guess is that UW increased by about 5 pts and DU increased by about 7 (based mostly off UMD winning the NC and DU making the NCAA while UW didn't). Both will be in striking distance of BU next season for #4. UND will have extended it's lead over MN for #2 and closed the gap on UMI a bit.

Couldn't have closed the gap too far on MI. DU may very well be in striking distance of BU this year, though missing the FF probably will keep BU ahead slightly.

[bigblue_dl]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

Couldn't have closed the gap too far on MI. DU may very well be in striking distance of BU this year, though missing the FF probably will keep BU ahead slightly.

UND will get a boost for having a very good record all-time vs. UMD. Why do you think Tech got more points in this list than wins this year?

[slurpees]

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UND will get a boost for having a very good record all-time vs. UMD. Why do you think Tech got more points in this list than wins this year?

ah, i forgot that was part of the formula.

[Almington]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

Plus UND won their conference playoff championship which Michigan did not do.
I was thinking that UND might have closed the gap by ~10 points or so.

[Runninwiththedogs]

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UND will get a boost for having a very good record all-time vs. UMD. Why do you think Tech got more points in this list than wins this year?

Michigan's record isn't as good as UND's record against UMD but they will probably still get a boost from it.

[UMDbulldogs#1]

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UMD has many all time series like that. UND and UMTC come to mind.

They only teams UMD is close to 0.500 against are Alaska Anchorage, Nebraska-Omaha, Colorado College, Mankato State, Bemidji State and St. Cloud State. Without looking, I think UMD is above 0.500 against UAA, Bemidji, Mankato and UNO. Everyone else in the WCHA has a 10 to 60 game advantage in the win column. This will happen when you're a small D2/D3 school and you start a D-1 program in a region and in an era dominated by Michigan Tech, Minnesota, Michigan, Denver and North Dakota.

Colorado College and, strangely, Michigan are the only original WCHA team that UMD is even close to 0.500 against (79-84-7 and 18-23-1, respectively).

[Biddco]

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They only teams UMD is close to 0.500 against are Alaska Anchorage, Nebraska-Omaha, Colorado College, Mankato State, Bemidji State and St. Cloud State. Without looking, I think UMD is above 0.500 against UAA, Bemidji, Mankato and UNO. Everyone else in the WCHA has a 10 to 60 game advantage in the win column. This will happen when you're a small D2/D3 school and you start a D-1 program in a region and in an era dominated by Michigan Tech, Minnesota, Michigan, Denver and North Dakota.

Colorado College and, strangely, Michigan are the only original WCHA team that UMD is even close to 0.500 against (79-84-7 and 18-23-1, respectively).

UMD didn't even make the NCAA's until 1984, some 23 years after joining DI and the WCHA.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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Coming in at #6...

Wisconsin
2009-2010 Final Ranking: 5
2009-2010 Final Points: 334.9305
2010-2011 Points Earned: 4.6446
2010-2011 Final Points: 339.5751
Percent Change: +1.39%

2010-2011 Final Ranking: 6

#07 - Boston College
#08 - Michigan State
#09 - Maine
#10 - Michigan Tech
#11 - Lake Superior State
#12 - Cornell
#13 - Colorado College
#14 - Clarkson
#15 - Harvard
#16 - Minnesota Duluth (+4)
#17 - RPI (-1)
#18 - Northern Michigan
#19 - New Hampshire
#20 - Bowling Green (-3)
#21 - St. Lawrence
#22 - Miami (+1)
#23 - Providence (-1)
#24 - Notre Dame (+1)
#25 - Dartmouth (-1)
#26 - Yale
#27 - Colgate
#28 - Northeastern
#29 - Brown
#30 - Ohio State
#31 - Vermont
#32 - St. Cloud State
#33 - Bemidji State
#34 - RIT
#35 - Ferris State
#36 - UMASS-Lowell
#37 - Niagara
#38 - Western Michigan
#39 - Alaska Anchorage (+2)
#40 - Princeton (-1)
#41 - Holy Cross (-1)
#42 - Air Force
#43 - Quinnipiac
#44 - Merrimack (+1)
#45 - Nebraska Omaha (+3)
#46 - Mercyhurst (-2)
#47 - Alaska
#48 - UMASS (-2)
#49 - Mankato
#50 - Alabama Huntsville
#51 - Union (+1)
#52 - Army (-1)
#53 - UCONN
#54 - Sacred Heart
#55 - Bentley
#56 - Robert Morris
#57 - Canisius
#58 - American International