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  • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

    Originally posted by Priceless View Post
    And the extreme difference between the "haves" and "have nots" in this sport.
    I hate to burst your bubble, but its not just this sport.
    Having a clear conscience just means you have a bad memory or you had a boring weekend.

    RIP - Kirby

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    • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

      Originally posted by bigblue_dl View Post
      I hate to burst your bubble, but its not just this sport.
      Actually this sport is probably better than most...I'd have to say there is a larger percentage of schools that actually have a chance to win it all than any other D1 sport I can think of...
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      • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

        Coming in at #15...

        Harvard
        2009-2010 Final Ranking: 15
        2009-2010 Final Points: 118.8879
        2010-2011 Points Earned: .0086
        2010-2011 Final Points: 118.8965
        Percent Change: +0.01%

        2010-2011 Final Ranking: 15

        #16 - Minnesota Duluth (+4)
        #17 - RPI (-1)
        #18 - Northern Michigan
        #19 - New Hampshire
        #20 - Bowling Green (-3)
        #21 - St. Lawrence
        #22 - Miami (+1)
        #23 - Providence (-1)
        #24 - Notre Dame (+1)
        #25 - Dartmouth (-1)
        #26 - Yale
        #27 - Colgate
        #28 - Northeastern
        #29 - Brown
        #30 - Ohio State
        #31 - Vermont
        #32 - St. Cloud State
        #33 - Bemidji State
        #34 - RIT
        #35 - Ferris State
        #36 - UMASS-Lowell
        #37 - Niagara
        #38 - Western Michigan
        #39 - Alaska Anchorage (+2)
        #40 - Princeton (-1)
        #41 - Holy Cross (-1)
        #42 - Air Force
        #43 - Quinnipiac
        #44 - Merrimack (+1)
        #45 - Nebraska Omaha (+3)
        #46 - Mercyhurst (-2)
        #47 - Alaska
        #48 - UMASS (-2)
        #49 - Mankato
        #50 - Alabama Huntsville
        #51 - Union (+1)
        #52 - Army (-1)
        #53 - UCONN
        #54 - Sacred Heart
        #55 - Bentley
        #56 - Robert Morris
        #57 - Canisius
        #58 - American International
        North Dakota
        National Champions: 1959, 1963, 1980, 1982, 1987, 1997, 2000, 2016

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        • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

          Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
          Actually this sport is probably better than most...I'd have to say there is a larger percentage of schools that actually have a chance to win it all than any other D1 sport I can think of...
          There are 346 D-I hoops teams. 35 have won the championship. Only 14 have won multiple titles. On the women's side, there have been 14 champions in 30 seasons. Only five teams have won multiple titles.

          Ice hockey has had 18 champions; 14 with multiple titles.

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          • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

            Originally posted by Priceless View Post
            There are 346 D-I hoops teams. 35 have won the championship. Only 14 have won multiple titles. On the women's side, there have been 14 champions in 30 seasons. Only five teams have won multiple titles.

            Ice hockey has had 18 champions; 14 with multiple titles.
            So only approximately 10% of the Men's D-1 Hoops teams have won a title, less than 5% have won multiple. In D-1 Hockey, 31% of the teams have won titles, and nearly 25% have won multiple titles.
            North Dakota
            National Champions: 1959, 1963, 1980, 1982, 1987, 1997, 2000, 2016

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            • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

              Coming in at #14...

              Clarkson
              2009-2010 Final Ranking: 14
              2009-2010 Final Points: 124.5689
              2010-2011 Points Earned: -0.4131
              2010-2011 Final Points: 124.1558
              Percent Change: -0.33%

              2010-2011 Final Ranking: 14

              #15 - Harvard
              #16 - Minnesota Duluth (+4)
              #17 - RPI (-1)
              #18 - Northern Michigan
              #19 - New Hampshire
              #20 - Bowling Green (-3)
              #21 - St. Lawrence
              #22 - Miami (+1)
              #23 - Providence (-1)
              #24 - Notre Dame (+1)
              #25 - Dartmouth (-1)
              #26 - Yale
              #27 - Colgate
              #28 - Northeastern
              #29 - Brown
              #30 - Ohio State
              #31 - Vermont
              #32 - St. Cloud State
              #33 - Bemidji State
              #34 - RIT
              #35 - Ferris State
              #36 - UMASS-Lowell
              #37 - Niagara
              #38 - Western Michigan
              #39 - Alaska Anchorage (+2)
              #40 - Princeton (-1)
              #41 - Holy Cross (-1)
              #42 - Air Force
              #43 - Quinnipiac
              #44 - Merrimack (+1)
              #45 - Nebraska Omaha (+3)
              #46 - Mercyhurst (-2)
              #47 - Alaska
              #48 - UMASS (-2)
              #49 - Mankato
              #50 - Alabama Huntsville
              #51 - Union (+1)
              #52 - Army (-1)
              #53 - UCONN
              #54 - Sacred Heart
              #55 - Bentley
              #56 - Robert Morris
              #57 - Canisius
              #58 - American International
              North Dakota
              National Champions: 1959, 1963, 1980, 1982, 1987, 1997, 2000, 2016

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              • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
                Actually this sport is probably better than most...I'd have to say there is a larger percentage of schools that actually have a chance to win it all than any other D1 sport I can think of...
                Additionally, some of those teams at the bottom of the list have not been playing hockey for very many years.

                It would be interesting to see the teams sorted by pts/season.

                It would also be interesting to see where some of the defunct programs would fall.

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                • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                  Originally posted by Almington View Post
                  It would also be interesting to see where some of the defunct programs would fall.
                  I don't see any of the defunct programs cracking the top 50. They have a collective 0 NCAA Tournament appearances, and very few conference titles. St. Louis might be the best bet to score some points as they won 3 CCHA Regular Season Titles and 3 CCHA Tournament Titles. I haven't done all the research, but I would imagine that they would have significant losing records overall, which would hurt.
                  North Dakota
                  National Champions: 1959, 1963, 1980, 1982, 1987, 1997, 2000, 2016

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                  • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                    I don't see any of the defunct programs cracking the top 50. They have a collective 0 NCAA Tournament appearances, and very few conference titles. St. Louis might be the best bet to score some points as they won 3 CCHA Regular Season Titles and 3 CCHA Tournament Titles. I haven't done all the research, but I would imagine that they would have significant losing records overall, which would hurt.
                    What about the per season question?
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                    • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                      Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
                      What about the per season question?
                      While I didn't figure it out, it would be pretty easy to do. North Dakota would come out on top, with Wisconsin and DU close behind, I believe.
                      North Dakota
                      National Champions: 1959, 1963, 1980, 1982, 1987, 1997, 2000, 2016

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                      • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                        Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                        While I didn't figure it out, it would be pretty easy to do. North Dakota would come out on top, with Wisconsin and DU close behind, I believe.
                        Maine would be the team that I think might really jump given that they have had a lot of sucess in a short amount of time (last few years not withstanding).

                        With the exception of Princton, none of the teams ranked 40 or below have been playing at the D1 level for all that long, I wouldn't expect them to have had the opportunity to earn many points. Makes you feel bad for those long suffering Princton fans.

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                        • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                          Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                          I don't see any of the defunct programs cracking the top 50. They have a collective 0 NCAA Tournament appearances, and very few conference titles. St. Louis might be the best bet to score some points as they won 3 CCHA Regular Season Titles and 3 CCHA Tournament Titles. I haven't done all the research, but I would imagine that they would have significant losing records overall, which would hurt.
                          Wayne State went to the NCAAs.

                          Originally posted by Almington View Post
                          With the exception of Princton, none of the teams ranked 40 or below have been playing at the D1 level for all that long, I wouldn't expect them to have had the opportunity to earn many points. Makes you feel bad for those long suffering Princton fans.
                          Army's been playing hockey for more than 100 years. AIC has been playing since 1948, Holy Cross since 1966 and Air Force since 1968.

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                          • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                            Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                            Army's been playing hockey for more than 100 years. AIC has been playing since 1948, Holy Cross since 1966 and Air Force since 1968.
                            I did not know that. I thought that they had moved up with the demise of a D2 tournament. Showing my western bias.

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                            • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                              Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                              Wayne State went to the NCAAs.
                              Apparently I've blocked the '03 Tournament from my memory.

                              Wayne State is the only program (so far) to have made an NCAA Tournament and then dissolve their program.

                              Originally posted by Priceless
                              Army's been playing hockey for more than 100 years. AIC has been playing since 1948, Holy Cross since 1966 and Air Force since 1968.
                              There has definitely been some good history from teams at the bottom of this list. Army has more wins than any team in the bottom half of the rankings, and 15th overall. AIC, Holy Cross and Air Force all have at least 600 D-1 wins as well.
                              North Dakota
                              National Champions: 1959, 1963, 1980, 1982, 1987, 1997, 2000, 2016

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                              • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                                Originally posted by Almington View Post
                                Maine would be the team that I think might really jump given that they have had a lot of sucess in a short amount of time (last few years not withstanding).
                                Maine would definitely jump. Like I said, I haven't done the calculations, but they would probably be in the top-5. North Dakota, Michigan, Denver and Wisconsin would all be ahead of them.
                                North Dakota
                                National Champions: 1959, 1963, 1980, 1982, 1987, 1997, 2000, 2016

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