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  • Re: RPI 2010-2011 IV: We Still Have Allen York. Sorry, Everyone!

    I'm not here to **** and moan about the refs. They are terrible...hands down. I threw the towel that hit one of them and I'd do it again. There is no chance of hurting anyone by throwing a towel. I have a feeling they got the point though.
    My main problem with their officiating is that one of the boys is going to get seriously hurt due to their lack of consistency. Is it really going to have to come down to that??? I don't want to see anyone get hurt from any team.

    GO RED

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      Originally posted by Wicked Slappaahs View Post
      There in lies the rub for me and I think, most of us. We all saw Jerry D. get pummelled from behind several times last year with no call at all.

      While I'd personally rather see a wide-open offensive style of play, at the end of the day fans deserve and players NEED to have the games called the same way night in and night out.

      Consistency matters. There simply isn't any in ECAC officiating and there hasn't been. Stewart has failed at his primary objective and his ego and thin skin have further polluted his tenure. The results simply aren't there.
      I think that was exactly my point-agree completely. The other part was to watch and see who get assigned for this very important weekend to the RPI games and the same for the all important cornell/Yale tilt. And of course, how the games are called. I am not sure how the assignments are handed out but would certainly be a tad suspicious if our old friends Hicks, Feola and Kotyra are put in prominent places.
      Take the shortest distance to the puck and arrive in ill humor

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        Originally posted by burgie12 View Post
        Kotyra and Feola were also the refs (I forget which one actually made the call) in our game against Cornell when Greg Miller got a 5 & misconduct for taking JFK out along the boards. Some of the complaining about refs is warranted, while other statements are just absurd and a case of us posters being reluctant to call out the team for a weak effort.
        B12-The call when JFK got clobbered was of course correct as have lots of the 5 minute calls made against us. I was merely pointing out a case down here in Princeton where an obvious 5 minute call was not made and voicing my opinion that if we had made the same play we would have been called for it. Inconsistencies are of course the major problem but I truly hope that is all it is-unplanned inconsistency. I would hate to think(but starting to feel) that there may be something to the complaints of PLANNED inconsistency. I think you might feel similarly had you been around back in the days when Harvard just SEEMED to get the better of the calls when they had Cleary as their coach. The breaks back then just did not seem to even out-and for some reason I am beginning to get that same feeling again in the past couple years but for different teams.
        Take the shortest distance to the puck and arrive in ill humor

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          Originally posted by KiKSaVeNABuTE View Post
          I'm not here to **** and moan about the refs. They are terrible...hands down. I threw the towel that hit one of them and I'd do it again. There is no chance of hurting anyone by throwing a towel. I have a feeling they got the point though.
          My main problem with their officiating is that one of the boys is going to get seriously hurt due to their lack of consistency. Is it really going to have to come down to that??? I don't want to see anyone get hurt from any team.

          GO RED
          Throwing anything at anyone participating in a sporting event is against the law and dangerous whether you think so or not. You should not be proud about what you have done, and are a discredit to all respectful RPI fans.
          YALE HOCKEY
          2013 National Champions

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            Originally posted by LTsatch View Post
            Throwing anything at anyone participating in a sporting event is against the law and dangerous whether you think so or not. You should not be proud about what you have done, and are a discredit to all respectful RPI fans.
            I'm sorry that you don't have a set and don't stand up for what you believe. You probably never played anything in your life. Get off this thread until you get some sac

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              Originally posted by KiKSaVeNABuTE View Post
              I'm sorry that you don't have a set and don't stand up for what you believe. You probably never played anything in your life. Get off this thread until you get some sac
              Having seen well over 500 RPI hockey games over the years I am proud to say we have never thrown anything at anyone. I have almost lost it completely a few times and I did have to pull Jenny off the glass at HFH though one time when she tried to get at Mike Noeth. And I was escorted out of the 1980 Rink at Lake Placid in 1995 when we beat Princeton 5-1 because some Princeton fans were upset with my use of a powerful airhorn after each RPI goal.
              Take the shortest distance to the puck and arrive in ill humor

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                Originally posted by LTsatch View Post
                Throwing anything at anyone participating in a sporting event is against the law and dangerous whether you think so or not. You should not be proud about what you have done, and are a discredit to all respectful RPI fans.
                I know I had mentioned a few times on here that a referee had refused to work Houston Field House again because of a similar event. I don't agree with throwing stuff at the refs because we may get to a point where RPI can't host any more games or need to do some further renovations because the refs refuse to work, hence why the only thing that flew down from me were some words that I won't repeat on here. On the other hand, given the actions that occurred with league officials and the following repercussions, I think it could be seen as a wake-up call. How the league chooses to answer the wake-up call is to be seen.

                I'm sure I wouldn't be the first to admit that Houston Field House is a very hostile location if you aren't of the RPI family (or sometimes even at the current moment). I would much rather that we were overly hostile than the alternative of being the equivalent of a graveyard. This is why Lynah and Cheel get a lot of respect as barns in this league, you could say the same thing even out west with Yost, and I'm sure there are plenty of others in the college hockey world with the same reputation. About six years ago, I had written an editorial to RPI's campus newspaper regarding making Houston Field House a lively location where, for four hours in a weekend, there is belief that RPI is the best, and any possibility of slighting this belief should be taken very seriously.

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                • Re: RPI 2010-2011 IV: We Still Have Allen York. Sorry, Everyone!

                  Originally posted by DrDemento View Post
                  Having seen well over 500 RPI hockey games over the years I am proud to say we have never thrown anything at anyone. I have almost lost it completely a few times and I did have to pull Jenny off the glass at HFH though one time when she tried to get at Mike Noeth. And I was escorted out of the 1980 Rink at Lake Placid in 1995 when we beat Princeton 5-1 because some Princeton fans were upset with my use of a powerful airhorn after each RPI goal.
                  Well I did lose it completely, after they blew Bryce off his feet w/o a call. I'm not going to stand for that. I care about the the welfare of the players....not some refs with over inflated egos.

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                    I don't agree with throwing stuff at the refs because we may get to a point where RPI can't host any more games or need to do some further renovations because the refs refuse to work, hence why the only thing that flew down from me were some words that I won't repeat on here.

                    No Flagdude, you just try to bribe the refs with a hundo last year!!!! lol

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                    • Re: RPI 2010-2011 IV: We Still Have Allen York. Sorry, Everyone!

                      Originally posted by KiKSaVeNABuTE View Post
                      No Flagdude, you just try to bribe the refs with a hundo last year!!!! lol
                      That wasn't the first time, either.

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                        Maybe, Hopefully Paul Stewart will resign from his position. Well a man can wish can't he. I have emailed him myelf twice. Once after the 6th time that Jerry got his from behind. The second time was after the Hicks Debacle. Both times his response to me was " Tryouts are in August...Bring your skates."

                        Originally posted by KiKSaVeNABuTE View Post
                        Well I did lose it completely, after they blew Bryce off his feet w/o a call. I'm not going to stand for that. I care about the the welfare of the players....not some refs with over inflated egos.
                        I bleed CHERRY AND WHITE

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                        • Re: RPI 2010-2011 IV: We Still Have Allen York. Sorry, Everyone!

                          Originally posted by rvd5star69 View Post
                          Maybe, Hopefully Paul Stewart will resign from his position. Well a man can wish can't he. I have emailed him myelf twice. Once after the 6th time that Jerry got his from behind. The second time was after the Hicks Debacle. Both times his response to me was " Tryouts are in August...Bring your skates."
                          He has a point. Everything in sports, in fact probably just about everything in life, is "put up or shut up". Those 50 guys chose to risk verbal harassment, even assault, because of their love for the sport of hockey. Unless there's another farm available for "better" referees, or people come in to look for the job, we're stuck with what we have. I think there is some dependency upon who is in the referee queue as to whether or not we are able to get different referees.

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                            USCHO poll out-we remain at 14th.
                            Take the shortest distance to the puck and arrive in ill humor

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                            • Re: RPI 2010-2011 IV: We Still Have Allen York. Sorry, Everyone!

                              Originally posted by DrDemento View Post
                              I was escorted out of the 1980 Rink at Lake Placid in 1995 when we beat Princeton 5-1 because some Princeton fans were upset with my use of a powerful airhorn after each RPI goal.
                              There were actually Princeton fans in Lake Placid?

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                                Does anyone think Beauregard and Halpern will play Saturday night (senior night).
                                I bleed CHERRY AND WHITE

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