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  • sandiegoblkbr
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    Originally posted by walrus View Post
    The question is, will your taxes go up? if so, I don't blame him for not wanting it. I' haven't seen any projections of what operating costs would be, what kind of income the project could make or is projected to make?
    Don't you think that someone should have thought about this back in 2003 when they proposed it and before they spend hunreds of thousands on it??? Funny how anti-arena peeps only seem interested now that they finalized everything and are on the verge of breaking ground.

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  • sandiegoblkbr
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    Originally posted by Nick Papagiorgio View Post
    "But but but but... have you polled all of the voters in Bangor!?!?!?!?!?!? ... DROOL.... I gamble at HS so much.... drool... durrrr..."
    effffewwww.

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  • acs64
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    Originally posted by Nick Papagiorgio View Post
    "But but but but... have you polled all of the voters in Bangor!?!?!?!?!?!? ... DROOL.... I gamble at HS so much.... drool... durrrr..."
    Thats pretty intelligent sounding Nicky. You havent sounded this smart since you tried to explain how plus/minuses worked....lolol.

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  • mwade
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  • Nick Papagiorgio
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    Originally posted by Pucknut View Post
    We all know that if is put out to referendum and someone says your taxes might go up it will be soundly defeated.
    "But but but but... have you polled all of the voters in Bangor!?!?!?!?!?!? ... DROOL.... I gamble at HS so much.... drool... durrrr..."

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  • walrus
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    Originally posted by Pucknut View Post
    Cim said, he doesn’t want his taxes to go up and that’s the reason he wants the referendum. He also added that it’s too important not to have the voters decide.

    We all know that if is put out to referendum and someone says your taxes might go up it will be soundly defeated.
    The question is, will your taxes go up? if so, I don't blame him for not wanting it. I' haven't seen any projections of what operating costs would be, what kind of income the project could make or is projected to make?

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  • Pucknut
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    Originally posted by walrus View Post
    Who the heck on here is trying to obstruct this particular project anyway. Maybe you're talking about the Hated Bob, isn't it his right as a taxpayer to try to stop something he doesn't want, isn't that the American way?
    Cim said, he doesn’t want his taxes to go up and that’s the reason he wants the referendum. He also added that it’s too important not to have the voters decide.

    We all know that if is put out to referendum and someone says your taxes might go up it will be soundly defeated.

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  • Maineiak
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    Originally posted by MEbear View Post
    ...The current building is old and outdated and should probably be torn down pretty soon anyway, but I think that life in eastern Maine will go on just fine without any large auditorium, at least from the perspective of most people who live here. I'd love to see a new auditorium, and if the mortgage payments were to be shared by the whole surrounding area instead of just Bangor taxpayers...
    I wonder how much the Bangor taxpayers are currently shelling out every year to heat/maintain the current building? I don't know but I think it'd be an interesting comparison if they numbers worked out and they saw how much they shelled out to heat/maintain vs. the cost of tearing down and paying for a new one. Not to mention the lost revenue for events that don't come due to the current facilities.

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  • acs64
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    Very sad indeed. Based on the comments, Paul sounds like he was quite a gentleman, well liked by all.

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  • sandiegoblkbr
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    Originally posted by AMcoffee View Post
    Visited the services tonight for former Black Bear Paul Lynch, who passed earlier this week. Maine fans should know that Paul was in a Maine jersey at the viewing.

    Here is the funeral home's website, look at list on left of page for link to Paul's arrangements.

    http://ccbfuneral.com/
    Wow......that is quite a testament to the Black Bear hockey program considering that he actually transferred out of Maine. Paul must have spoke highly of the program and there were probably some great family memories of Paul attending and playing for Maine. Very sad that his life ended at such a young age.

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  • AMcoffee
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    Visited the services tonight for former Black Bear Paul Lynch, who passed earlier this week. Maine fans should know that Paul was in a Maine jersey at the viewing.

    Here is the funeral home's website, look at list on left of page for link to Paul's arrangements.

    http://ccbfuneral.com/

    Originally posted by GoBlackBears View Post
    Former Black Bear Paul Lynch has died


    http://knoxvilleicebears.com/news/fo...an_passes_away

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  • sandiegoblkbr
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    Originally posted by walrus View Post
    Who the heck on here is trying to obstruct this particular project anyway. Maybe you're talking about the Hated Bob, isn't it his right as a taxpayer to try to stop something he doesn't want, isn't that the American way?
    Sure......and it's DEFINITELY the Maine way! It's gotten the state real far.......wouldn't you say?

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  • walrus
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    Originally posted by sandiegoblkbr View Post
    .......the whiners that complain, complain, complain about high taxes, no jobs, too much welfare.......and then try to obstruct every project that comes along.
    Who the heck on here is trying to obstruct this particular project anyway. Maybe you're talking about the Hated Bob, isn't it his right as a taxpayer to try to stop something he doesn't want, isn't that the American way?

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  • sandiegoblkbr
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    Originally posted by MEbear View Post
    There is NO guarantee that Hollywood Slots revenue stream will be able to pay for the cost of building this arena, let alone the costs of maintaining and operating it, so Bangor taxpayers will be the ones left holding the bag for all these costs. I can understand why you are very willing to accept the idea of HS paying for this from 3000 miles away, but you might feel differently if you knew that any blip in the HS revenue stream would mean a property tax hike that you simply can't afford.
    You can try and get digs in on me as much as you want for me living in San Diego.......but I have strong ties to Maine and pay taxes in Maine so enough with the Cali drivel. I am not a taxpayer in Bangor and I don't blame people for being concerned about their taxes. Everyone in Maine is overtaxed! But this whole Hollywood Slots and their revenue stream will not be there in years is complete B.S.! The Bangor Mall is more likely to close in the next 5 years than Hollywood Slots is!!! Maybe the Earth won't be around in 5 years........does that mean that we should all just huddle in a cave and wait for the world to end? Gimme a break.......this arena has been studied to death and delayed almost as much as the Red Sox championship drought. I'm more inclined to believe those that have carefully seen this project to the brink of fruition (this has been a VERY transparent and LONG process).......than to listen to more of the same old, same old........the whiners that complain, complain, complain about high taxes, no jobs, too much welfare.......and then try to obstruct every project that comes along.
    Last edited by sandiegoblkbr; 11-28-2010, 02:52 PM.

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  • MEbear
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    Originally posted by sandiegoblkbr View Post
    You don't know what a "hub" is???

    Bangor taxpayers better be thankful that they are the hub for a large region. It's what has lowered your taxes!.......where do you think your taxes would be without drawing people to the city for shopping, gambling, the fair, basketball tournaments and concerts????

    I love how you speak for all Bangor and Eastern Maine residents..........

    The mortgage payment is being paid by Hollywood Slots......why can't you get that through your head???
    Yes, I do know what a hub is. By saying "whatever that means," I was questioning him saying "the city of Bangor wants..." because the city of Bangor doesn't think anything or want anything at all. It's the politicians and the people of Bangor who want things and think things and pay for things.

    Bangor will always be the hub of eastern Maine and is in absolutely no danger of losing that status if this arena is not built. What other nearby city do you see as a likely successor to Bangor's "hubship" if this project doesn't get built?

    Lowered taxes?! Bangor real estate tax rates aren't significantly different than the taxes in surrounding towns so I'm not sure what point you're hoping to make by bringing this up. Mil rates are actually lower in some of the surrounding towns, and since Bangor real estate tends to be worth equal or more, taxes paid on a similar property often are actually higher. Apparently the additional infrastructure to support these Bangor businesses you mention costs more than the additional taxes paid by them, so the typical homeowner sees no benefit when he gets his tax bill.

    I don't claim to speak for all Bangor residents, but I do know what I hear on the streets (of Bangor, not San Diego) and not too many local people are in favor of this.

    There is NO guarantee that Hollywood Slots revenue stream will be able to pay for the cost of building this arena, let alone the costs of maintaining and operating it, so Bangor taxpayers will be the ones left holding the bag for all these costs. I can understand why you are very willing to accept the idea of HS paying for this from 3000 miles away, but you might feel differently if you knew that any blip in the HS revenue stream would mean a property tax hike that you simply can't afford.

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