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  • sandiegoblkbr
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    Originally posted by Ma#1ne Hky View Post
    Originally posted by MEbear View Post
    In either case, since there is no ice even in the plans, who cares?
    -- The last 2 words in a nutshell.
    Hate to break the news to you but this is much bigger than Maine Hockey.

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  • sandiegoblkbr
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    Originally posted by MEbear View Post
    If it goes to referendum so the majority of voters determine this question, they will get their way and that means it won't be built.
    Have you surveyed every voter in Bangor???

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  • sandiegoblkbr
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    Originally posted by walrus View Post
    YAWN, is right
    Yup.......YAWN. Same old, same old from a lot of you guys......and it's been happening for decades. Remind me of the last time that Maine had a somewhat healthy economy??? Oh yeah......back when the paper and manuafacturing mills were going full throttle. That ain't happening again.......and according to the negative nellies, neither are new arenas, casinos, National Parks.......did I miss anything??? Looking forward to the next Super Wal-Mart or Dunkin Donuts I guess........

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  • Ma#1ne Hky
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    [QUOTE=MEbear;4941572]Actually, if it's built by the city of Bangor, it's the Bangor taxpayer who WILL be on the hook for making the payments on it. Hollywood Slots hasn't been generating enough revenue to the city to begin to pay for a big project like this. Even if you're right that they get table games at HS, we still don't know how much of a contribution to the city or to this project will result from that, especially if other casino's are approved in Maine in the future that take business away from HS. Lots of unknowns there, especially when you extend them to out to the duration of the mortgage. In 10 years, HS may be a full service casino, or just a hotel along the river with NO gambling, who knows? Ultimately, Bangor taxpayers know they will be responsible, with maybe a lot of help from Hollywood Slots, and maybe not so much help from Hollywood Slots. If it goes to referendum so the majority of voters determine this question, they will get their way and that means it won't be built. In either case, since there is no ice even in the plans, who cares?[/QUOTE -- The last 2 words in a nutshell.

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  • MEbear
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    Originally posted by sandiegoblkbr View Post
    Good god........another negative nellie that thinks that this facility is being built on the backs of the Bangor taxpayer. Enough with the petition drives.......it's time for the majority to get their way.......for a change!
    Actually, if it's built by the city of Bangor, it's the Bangor taxpayer who WILL be on the hook for making the payments on it. Hollywood Slots hasn't been generating enough revenue to the city to begin to pay for a big project like this. Even if you're right that they get table games at HS, we still don't know how much of a contribution to the city or to this project will result from that, especially if other casino's are approved in Maine in the future that take business away from HS. Lots of unknowns there, especially when you extend them to out to the duration of the mortgage. In 10 years, HS may be a full service casino, or just a hotel along the river with NO gambling, who knows? Ultimately, Bangor taxpayers know they will be responsible, with maybe a lot of help from Hollywood Slots, and maybe not so much help from Hollywood Slots. If it goes to referendum so the majority of voters determine this question, they will get their way and that means it won't be built. In either case, since there is no ice even in the plans, who cares?

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  • KnowItAll
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    Originally posted by Priceless View Post
    The city council will just pick the cash off the money tree they have growing out back.
    or they could just print it... naaah, nobody would would just print currency, can you imagine the long-term effects?

    maybe they could loan the money to a corporation and then tell the corporation that they have to pay the money back, but the corporation did not have to pay its next $90 Billion in corporate taxes.... nahhh, can you imagine the long-term effects?

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  • walrus
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    Originally posted by sandiegoblkbr View Post
    Maybe it is just better if they never build anything in Maine ever again.......then the entire state can go on welfare and the Feds can pick up the tab.

    I just don't see any good ideas out there.....and when something positive comes along.......it is shot down by those oh-so-positive Mainers with nothing better to do than complain........ABOUT EVERYTHING.

    Money could grow on every tree in the state.....and Mainers would find some way to eff it up.

    *YAWN*
    YAWN, is right

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  • Ma#1ne Hky
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    Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    I agree that Bangor is just too much of a ya-can't-get-there-from-here destination...But I disagree with the notion that they would sell more tix than the 7-8K they sell in Albany,even if Maine was playing there.(Those packages cost,what,$80 for three games..?Casual fans just won't pony up that kind of dough in large numbers,especially in greater Bangor.)And,if Maine isn't in the NCAA's,a Bangor regional would be a total disaster,IMO.I doubt they could get 2,000 people to attend.

    No way the NC$$ is gonna place a regional in north/central Maine.It just doesn't make cents.
    Regionals held in Albany never have 7-8k for there games,well 7-8k if you count the whole weekend...your lucky to get 4500 per game,and maybe 4800 IF Maine is there...I've been there before and the rink is empty...like alot of other Regional sites...you are right on the price part....between $25-$30 per day and say a $45 ticket for both days would put more fanny's in the rink....but the NCAA does not care about that or the Hockey part....imo. With that said,sounds more like hot-air coming out of that Bangor proposed Project..[again]..If there ever is going to be a Regional in Maine it will be in Portland...IF & When they would build a NEW Arena there....will that happen...go back to hot-air Bangor comment. So Maine Hockey fans get use to travling out of State to watch Maine in the NCAA's for a good time coming...

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  • sandiegoblkbr
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    Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    I agree that Bangor is just too much of a ya-can't-get-there-from-here destination...But I disagree with the notion that they would sell more tix than the 7-8K they sell in Albany,even if Maine was playing there.(Those packages cost,what,$80 for three games..?Casual fans just won't pony up that kind of dough in large numbers,especially in greater Bangor.)And,if Maine isn't in the NCAA's,a Bangor regional would be a total disaster,IMO.I doubt they could get 2,000 people to attend.

    No way the NC$$ is gonna place a regional in north/central Maine.It just doesn't make cents.
    You're right......it will NEVER happen. This new facility will only seat 5,800 and more importantly NOT HAVE ICE. So maybe all of this arena/NCAA Regional in Bangor talk just needs to die on this forum because it's all a moot point.

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  • Fishman'81
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    Originally posted by Runsub5 View Post
    In reality, Bangor is probably too, far away. More travel costs for both teams and fans don't make it very attractive. Even though I think the arena would be filled, unlike Albany.
    I agree that Bangor is just too much of a ya-can't-get-there-from-here destination...But I disagree with the notion that they would sell more tix than the 7-8K they sell in Albany,even if Maine was playing there.(Those packages cost,what,$80 for three games..?Casual fans just won't pony up that kind of dough in large numbers,especially in greater Bangor.)And,if Maine isn't in the NCAA's,a Bangor regional would be a total disaster,IMO.I doubt they could get 2,000 people to attend.

    No way the NC$$ is gonna place a regional in north/central Maine.It just doesn't make cents.

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  • sandiegoblkbr
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    Originally posted by walrus View Post
    That means the taxpayers are going to take a hit, we'll see what happens in the next few months
    Maybe it is just better if they never build anything in Maine ever again.......then the entire state can go on welfare and the Feds can pick up the tab.

    I just don't see any good ideas out there.....and when something positive comes along.......it is shot down by those oh-so-positive Mainers with nothing better to do than complain........ABOUT EVERYTHING.

    Money could grow on every tree in the state.....and Mainers would find some way to eff it up.

    *YAWN*
    Last edited by sandiegoblkbr; 11-25-2010, 10:53 PM.

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  • walrus
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    Originally posted by sandiegoblkbr View Post
    Finance it. I hear that rates are pretty good right now.
    That means the taxpayers are going to take a hit, we'll see what happens in the next few months

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  • sandiegoblkbr
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    Originally posted by walrus View Post
    The 10 million they have so far is a far cry from 50 or 60 million they need. Are they gonna wait until they have the 50 or 60 million or are they going to finance it?
    Finance it. I hear that rates are pretty good right now.

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  • walrus
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    Originally posted by sandiegoblkbr View Post
    LOL........Did I say that my opinion counts? It is being built by Hollywood Slots revenue (which I have contributed to......much more than any Bangor taxpayer that hasn't gambled at Hollywood Slots!). HS is getting table games......guaranteed! Why are you so negative about everything?

    P.S. - Stall ball may have worked for Bob Cimbolek at John Bapst........but it ain't gonna work this time! He needs to get a new hobby.
    The 10 million they have so far is a far cry from 50 or 60 million they need. Are they gonna wait until they have the 50 or 60 million or are they going to finance it?

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  • mookie1995
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    happy thanksgiving.

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