RIT 2010-11: What do Tigers dream of?

[TigerFan86-87]

Re: RIT 2010-11: What do Tigers dream of?

Watching the Tigers in the attacking zone, particularly on the power play, has become increasingly painful.

As has been pointed out before, it basically goes...pass, pass, pass, pass, boardplay, pass, pass, turnover.

They seem completely unwilling to shoot unless they are in the absolute optimal position, which doesn't seem to happen very much as smart teams just crowd us out of the slot. They do manage to generate a decent amount of goals given the number of shots they take (see: Merrimack game, Mercyhurst, ect) but if they took 10-15 shots more per game, they would probably find that one extra goal they have needed 5 times now this season.

It's not just on the PP or in the offensive zone set-up. How many 2-on-1's, 3-on-2's, and even 2-on-2's went essentially wasted on Saturday (and throughout the season, for that matter) by the "skate, skate, skate, wait until within 5 feet of the goal-line, then try and pass" strategy? Put the darn puck on goal every once in a while!!! What's the worst that could happen?!?! Couldn't be any worse than the inevitable turnover headed the other way when the defense picks off the last instant sharp angle pass attempt and heads the other way with it.

[dutchbrowncoat]

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I was taking a look at some numbers and I believe the PP is where we miss Ringwald/Tanev/Mazur the most. The defensemen on the unit don't seem to be as offensive minded as in the past. Haltigan leads the D with 3 goals. Seracino and Noyes have have 2, and Descoteaux has 1. That's it. And Descoteaux, Raibl, Spivak, and Eckenswiller combine for 12 total points.

All three of the players that we lost would have more goals than what we have combined from the D. Teams can slack off the point knowing that haven't been scoring - and often not even shooting and that makes it harder on the forwards because they can't find openings down low.

unfortunately for the new guys, they have to fill in for some great defenders. ringwald and tanev were an absolutely incredible duo. it will be hard for any d-pairing down the road to match up to what those guys did in 09/10. in 41 games, they had 21 goals, 44 assists, and only 16 penalty minutes.

some good points about the power play though. i would add that (in the few games i have seen) they lack the movement and passing that ringwald/tanev had. they both were great at moving with the puck, opening space and drawing defenders. ringwald working with the puck on the power play was my favorite thing to watch since lambert graduated.

[Zyklon]

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That said, I did like Brenner - not necessarily on the PP - in that multiple times I saw him notice the puck at the point, and start fighting to the front of the net for screening and rebounds. I'm glad he's just a junior, hopefully he sticks around.

Brenner is clearly our best player this year, he has the best puck handling skills around the net and has really impressed me. Last year he was used as the guy around the net a lot, it seems that we have moved away from that a bit this year.

[slewwwwwfoot!]

Re: RIT 2010-11: What do Tigers dream of?

Watching the Tigers in the attacking zone, particularly on the power play, has become increasingly painful.

As has been pointed out before, it basically goes...pass, pass, pass, pass, boardplay, pass, pass, turnover.

They seem completely unwilling to shoot unless they are in the absolute optimal position, which doesn't seem to happen very much as smart teams just crowd us out of the slot. They do manage to generate a decent amount of goals given the number of shots they take (see: Merrimack game, Mercyhurst, ect) but if they took 10-15 shots more per game, they would probably find that one extra goal they have needed 5 times now this season.

I thought Mercyhurst did a very good job of this last game, clogging up the slot. We were hesitant to throw it in from the point as it would likely be blocked, but never got an opening down low. Gotta do something with it. Mix it up a bit, points from the shot will help open up room down low and vice versa.

That said, I did like Brenner - not necessarily on the PP - in that multiple times I saw him notice the puck at the point, and start fighting to the front of the net for screening and rebounds. I'm glad he's just a junior, hopefully he sticks around.

[RIT Winters]

Re: RIT 2010-11: What do Tigers dream of?

Watching the Tigers in the attacking zone, particularly on the power play, has become increasingly painful.

As has been pointed out before, it basically goes...pass, pass, pass, pass, boardplay, pass, pass, turnover.

They seem completely unwilling to shoot unless they are in the absolute optimal position, which doesn't seem to happen very much as smart teams just crowd us out of the slot. They do manage to generate a decent amount of goals given the number of shots they take (see: Merrimack game, Mercyhurst, ect) but if they took 10-15 shots more per game, they would probably find that one extra goal they have needed 5 times now this season.

[JRZ DVLS]

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Hmmm.....I'm thinking of a number........

Terry Pegula is worth about $3-billion and loves hockey. Recently he donated $88-million to fund a new arena to help the men's hockey program at Penn State.

Yep, that's it! Wouldn't it be nice if Mr. Golisano threw something like that at the new rink.

I said the same thing to to my wife last night about him maybe helping out RIT and it's hocky program now that he has no ties to the NHL. Since he has already puit his mark on RIT, you could imaging he may want to leave a more visual one like an arena...Gets much more publicity than a regular building. or even trying to do it through his company. Who's to say something like a named (Golisano or Shultz) arena at Paychex Place RIT or something wouldnt work out.
Dude stands to make close to $100 mil in profit off the sale.

[komey1]

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I was taking a look at some numbers and I believe the PP is where we miss Ringwald/Tanev/Mazur the most. The defensemen on the unit don't seem to be as offensive minded as in the past. Haltigan leads the D with 3 goals. Seracino and Noyes have have 2, and Descoteaux has 1. That's it. And Descoteaux, Raibl, Spivak, and Eckenswiller combine for 12 total points.

All three of the players that we lost would have more goals than what we have combined from the D. Teams can slack off the point knowing that haven't been scoring - and often not even shooting and that makes it harder on the forwards because they can't find openings down low.

[nerdofthunder]

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Was it just me or did the locations the players took on the ice seem just plain wrong. There seemed to be too much bunching, and players were often too far north or south to be in position to make a play.

Or, I just might have no idea what I'm talking about.

[Frozen]

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Hmmm.....I'm thinking of a number........

Terry Pegula is worth about $3-billion and loves hockey. Recently he donated $88-million to fund a new arena to help the men's hockey program at Penn State.


Yep, that's it! Wouldn't it be nice if Mr. Golisano threw something like that at the new rink.

Speaking of a new rink, any word on the fundraising we've been doing since? Wondering where we are at terms of percentage of funds risen, etc.

[blazer777]

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This is really random in relation to the thread, but what does everyone think of: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41358101

I am wondering if this could mean a big donation from Golisano coming for our hockey program as with the sale he would be able to fund our hockey program bye NCAA rules I believe.

Hmmm.....I'm thinking of a number........

Terry Pegula is worth about $3-billion and loves hockey. Recently he donated $88-million to fund a new arena to help the men's hockey program at Penn State.


Yep, that's it! Wouldn't it be nice if Mr. Golisano threw something like that at the new rink.

[Zyklon]

Re: RIT 2010-11: What do Tigers dream of?

This is really random in relation to the thread, but what does everyone think of: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41358101

I am wondering if this could mean a big donation from Golisano coming for our hockey program as with the sale he would be able to fund our hockey program bye NCAA rules I believe.

[cplinford]

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Burt's game has seemed to have slipped since he has been back from injury.

[slewwwwwfoot!]

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Yes.

Yes, yes, yes. Couldn't agree more with anything you've said.

As far as the PP goes, that was Noyes first time on it. He's still young, maybe he just needs a little confidence. I'm glad Burt is off of it, though. Burt has been nothing but infuriating this year. He's like Alexander Semin. Capable of an awful lot, takes a lot of stupid cheapshots and penalties, really really good when he wants to be. But right now he's in a Semin-esque slump of holding on to the puck himself far too much, trying board-play, and giving up turnovers. After which he's rarely racing down the ice to help out on D.


On another note... A few weeks ago an older woman was kicked out (she was around the Corner area) after she produced a few cans of Molson from the folds of her jacket. This week, a couple ******-nozzles down in the front row apparently poured some crappy scotch into their Tim Horton's hot chocolate/coffee, were generally being obnoxious, spilt it on nearby people, and were eventually kicked out.

Haven't seen this before in the years I've been going. Bandwagon effect?

[komey1]

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I agree that RIT takes too many penalties. That has to stop for RIT to return to the NCAAs. Clearly right now it seems the only way they will make it is if Madolora carries them. The defense has been giving up way too many shots. The power play is pathetic. Even the offense in general isn't that great. Now that we are in Western Pod play, these games are gonna get harder. They do have 4 home games left in the regular season. This is the time for the team to step up.

[TigerFan86-87]

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Because it the made power play far worse and not better (imo). The general point being Noyes is not an offense minded defenseman, that I have seen, and was far too tentative on the point.

But if something clearly isn't working, you've got to try SOMETHING else. It may not look to us to be the right choice, but I still go under the assumption that the coaching staff knows a little more about what these players and line combos are capable of than I do. So I'm willing to give them a little benefit of the doubt until they're proven wrong by more than just one game.