RIT 2010-11: What do Tigers dream of?

[Rochester]

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Rochester has the worst refs around. But the guys did fall into that mercyhurst trap last night. push first and let RIT get caught when they push back. good game plan when you're down and need a spark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPVX5...eature=related

This reminded me of the Tigers. There think skinned! They got to dig deep! A little self control!

This had nothing to do with the Refs. Our Tigers don't know to control their anger!

[jflory81]

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Ellis is one of the least competant refs in the league. I'm not saying that RIT didn't deserve some of them, but there were some non-calls that were pretty baffling. A prime example is one on Breener for taking a shot at the Mercyhurst player who was holding his stick down. No call on the Laker, but there was a call on Brenner.

In general, I think this team is still learning to play with the bullseye that they have had all year for last year's team making the Frozen Four. That they are still 4 points up when there were some people who thought this may be a little bit of a rebuilding year with the losses from last years team.

I was watching on TV, and the Brenner call (if you're referring to the penalty they took on the PP) was BRUTAL. It was a push to the back with one hand. There was nothing out of the ordinary of front of the net battles - that call was a joke.

[Rochester]

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I was watching on TV, and the Brenner call (if you're referring to the penalty they took on the PP) was BRUTAL. It was a push to the back with one hand. There was nothing out of the ordinary of front of the net battles - that call was a joke.

One call won't help the Tigers against Air Force. If we don't start to have discipline this up coming weekend it's going to be brutal. RIT is not as strong as their standings say they are. I will not defend the Tigers this weekend. They need to learn discipline.

They have a really rough schedule throughout the rest of the season. I hope they wake up.

[slewwwwwfoot!]

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One call won't help the Tigers against Air Force. If we don't start to have discipline this up coming weekend it's going to be brutal. RIT is not as strong as their standings say they are. I will not defend the Tigers this weekend. They need to learn discipline.

They have a really rough schedule throughout the rest of the season. I hope they wake up.

As yesterday's post-game show attests, Air Force takes the fewest PIMs in the league. Not that they're necessarily clean - the claim was that Frank Serratore is good at bullying refs, and that AF has a few artists when it comes to drawing penalties, e.g. Lameroux (sp?). Not just Lerchie making these claims, but Wilson too.

Could be a rough couple of games.

[XCTiger]

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Watched the game on B2, and felt comfortable with the Tigers play until the end of the 2nd period. Then in the 3rd was sure they were going to end up blowing the lead. 'Hurst just looked like they wanted it more. The penalties are killing them and it is only going to get worse when the playoffs come around. If I was Madolora, I think I'd be chewing out a few teamates for making his life miserable at the end of games. He's having to work way too hard to keep the points coming to the Tigers.

Speaking of goalies, The Wellington Dukes formal announcement of Jordan Ruby to RIT is on the OJHL website.

[cplinford]

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This also seems to the first weekend where Burt and Hartley were replaced on the first power play unit with Lynch and Noyes. I wasn't thrilled with the move. To me Noyes just looks very tentative out there and not an offensive defenseman. I have noticed coach Wilson put him out several times in more offensive type roles and I guess I just don't see it

[dpm105]

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This also seems to the first weekend where Burt and Hartley were replaced on the first power play unit with Lynch and Noyes. I wasn't thrilled with the move. To me Noyes just looks very tentative out there and not an offensive defenseman. I have noticed coach Wilson put him out several times in more offensive type roles and I guess I just don't see it

I would agree, but I thought Noyes had a few good shifts.

I think we do need to shake things up a bit on special teams. It seems like we are getting better shifts/chances out of the pk guys than the powerplay. I have been getting very frustrated with our offensive play this season. We try to make way too much happen below the goal line when there is really nothign available. I would rather see us try to generate a little offense by swinging the puck around the blue line a bit more. I think we really need to start moving things east to west from the point, we keep trying to generate that movement from below the goal, which has worked for Tiger teams in the past, but it just doesn't seem to be clicking this year. Gone are the tic - tac- toe powerplays of last year's team.

Burt doesn't help with that. He has been extremely frustrating to watch this year. Every shift seems to end with him turning over the puck. I am getting sick of him "mailing it in" night after night and would really like to see him start to put in some solid effort. His assists are still there this year, but he is not scoring as much. I think if he starts to dish the puck a bit more, he will find himself with more oppourtunities to recieve a pass in a scoring position, tough to score when you are getting beat off the puck all night at the Half Boards.

[TigerFan86-87]

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You forgot to include time to drink some beer!!!

We can drink all the beer we want while all this is going on. We're not playing the games.

[TigerFan86-87]

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This also seems to the first weekend where Burt and Hartley were replaced on the first power play unit with Lynch and Noyes. I wasn't thrilled with the move. To me Noyes just looks very tentative out there and not an offensive defenseman. I have noticed coach Wilson put him out several times in more offensive type roles and I guess I just don't see it

Why would this move bother anyone? The RIT power play has been lethargic at best, horribly bad at its worst. The PK has definitely picked up its game in recent weeks, but the PP still basically stinks. Even when they get a PP goal, it's usually less due to the fact that they had a man advantage and more just "one of those things" kind of goals. There was one PP on Saturday where RIT possessed the puck in the MC zone for somewhere around 1:40 or 1:50 consecutively of the 2 minutes without actually generating a single shot on goal (and they didn't even take any that were blocked, either). It's one thing when the other team forechecks you to death so you can't get your PP offense set up. It's yet another to actually have it set up and do absolutely nothing with it. If they don't do something about the PP, this team will not be returning to the NCAA's.

[TigerFan86-87]

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I don't agree at all. Mercyhurst was frankly the team that started gooning it up once the Tigers got up 3-1 by roughing up Favot along the boards. (Wilson even took a veiled shot at them in the post game interviews on TWCS), and the Tigers lost their discipline a bit. But they did not deserve to be two men short multiple times in that 3rd period. There were some ticky tack penalties to say the least.

As long as you're going to bring Coach Wilson into it... He did say on the radio post-game that he had no issues with the officiating in this game and that all those penalties were just stupid penalties that our guys should know better than to take (paraphrasing). So say what you will about the AHA officials and other games in the past, but this game was decided by RIT's lack of discipline. The officials aren't the only reason that RIT leads the nation in penalty minutes per game. Everyone in this conference has to deal with the poor AHA officiating. The Tigers have made a deep-rooted reputation for themselves in just 5 1/2 years in D-I (that to be honest, may as well have carried over from D-III), which I'm sure contributes to a number of "questionable" and or "ticky-tack" calls against them. But to be honest, more often than not IMHO, they deserve a large majority of the calls they get. It's very frustrating to watch and makes you want to be mad at someone (i.e. the refs or the other team), but it's usually their own fault. Many of the Tigers' opponents know full well that if they want to get some free PP's, it isn't too difficult to get them. RIT's guys are relatively easily suckered into the retaliation / frustration penalties and the officials are looking for them to do it. They NEED to work on the discipline and try to dig themselves out of this penalty downward spiral they're on.

[cplinford]

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Why would this move bother anyone? The RIT power play has been lethargic at best, horribly bad at its worst. The PK has definitely picked up its game in recent weeks, but the PP still basically stinks. Even when they get a PP goal, it's usually less due to the fact that they had a man advantage and more just "one of those things" kind of goals. There was one PP on Saturday where RIT possessed the puck in the MC zone for somewhere around 1:40 or 1:50 consecutively of the 2 minutes without actually generating a single shot on goal (and they didn't even take any that were blocked, either). It's one thing when the other team forechecks you to death so you can't get your PP offense set up. It's yet another to actually have it set up and do absolutely nothing with it. If they don't do something about the PP, this team will not be returning to the NCAA's.

Because it the made power play far worse and not better (imo). The general point being Noyes is not an offense minded defenseman, that I have seen, and was far too tentative on the point.

[TigerFan86-87]

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Lest anyone think I'm all about the negative stuff...
I give this team and coaching staff tons of credit for remaining 4 points out in front despite a few reasons why one would expect them to not be in such a position. Despite this being a "re-building" season of sorts, the fact that the AHA (West pod, at least) is much tougher than it was last year, a lack of a power play, and a team that spends way too much time in the box, they've managed to continue to make everyone chase them (except possibly NU - we'll see in four weeks). Call me impressed. As long as I don't have a stroke having to watch 7 more heart-stopping games like Saturday's for the rest of the season, this is going to be a thrilling dog-fight of a finish to the season. Should be a thrill!

[TigerFan86-87]

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Because it the made power play far worse and not better (imo). The general point being Noyes is not an offense minded defenseman, that I have seen, and was far too tentative on the point.

But if something clearly isn't working, you've got to try SOMETHING else. It may not look to us to be the right choice, but I still go under the assumption that the coaching staff knows a little more about what these players and line combos are capable of than I do. So I'm willing to give them a little benefit of the doubt until they're proven wrong by more than just one game.

[komey1]

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I agree that RIT takes too many penalties. That has to stop for RIT to return to the NCAAs. Clearly right now it seems the only way they will make it is if Madolora carries them. The defense has been giving up way too many shots. The power play is pathetic. Even the offense in general isn't that great. Now that we are in Western Pod play, these games are gonna get harder. They do have 4 home games left in the regular season. This is the time for the team to step up.

[slewwwwwfoot!]

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Yes.

Yes, yes, yes. Couldn't agree more with anything you've said.

As far as the PP goes, that was Noyes first time on it. He's still young, maybe he just needs a little confidence. I'm glad Burt is off of it, though. Burt has been nothing but infuriating this year. He's like Alexander Semin. Capable of an awful lot, takes a lot of stupid cheapshots and penalties, really really good when he wants to be. But right now he's in a Semin-esque slump of holding on to the puck himself far too much, trying board-play, and giving up turnovers. After which he's rarely racing down the ice to help out on D.


On another note... A few weeks ago an older woman was kicked out (she was around the Corner area) after she produced a few cans of Molson from the folds of her jacket. This week, a couple ******-nozzles down in the front row apparently poured some crappy scotch into their Tim Horton's hot chocolate/coffee, were generally being obnoxious, spilt it on nearby people, and were eventually kicked out.

Haven't seen this before in the years I've been going. Bandwagon effect?