Top Freshmen

[hockeyplayer1015]

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If you look at Campbells resume, it's not hard to say he was the top goalie on the U18s last year and that it's not close. It's not to say Illes isn't talented as the stats you list are pretty similar, but Campbell's international experience and success speaks for itself.

I'm not doubting or saying that holds no water, however their numbers were very, very even last year, and that has to count for something, whether that means Iles could have performed as well as Campbell did in the international competitions, we'll never know. Iles will put up excellent numbers at Cornell, partially due to the system they play.

[jcarter7669]

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[owslachief]

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Dangerous question to answer as a Spartan follower ... seems that over the last few seasons those who have "flown under the radar" have contributed, while those in the spotlight have disappointed. Tropp finally put it all together last year, but Rowe (undrafted) may have been the better complete player. Leveille (1st round) has never found his potential.

This year we have no marquee names coming in, unless you consider family ties to a Chelios. Others were big-time scorers at the junior level (Lee Reimer in AJHL and Greg Wolfe in USHL).

It's difficult to get a read on our freshman goalie Yanakeff unless you saw him play at 100% - which was rare last season.

If I had to put money on this I would guess that Wolfe will find success as a freshman this year for MSU. He's got 2 years of Tier 1 experience coming in, wore a 'C' last year and had a good second half in 2009/10 - including 10 points in 8 playoff games for Omaha.

[Hokydad]

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Dangerous question to answer as a Spartan follower ... seems that over the last few seasons those who have "flown under the radar" have contributed, while those in the spotlight have disappointed. Tropp finally put it all together last year, but Rowe (undrafted) may have been the better complete player. Leveille (1st round) has never found his potential.

This year we have no big names coming in, unless you consider family ties to a Chelios. Others were big-time scorers at the junior level (Lee Reimer in AJHL and Greg Wolfe in USHL).

It's difficult to get a read on our freshman goalie Yanakeff unless you saw him play at 100% - which was rare last season.

If I had to put money on this I would guess that Wolfe will find success as a freshman this year for MSU. He's got 2 years of Tier 1 experience coming in, wore a 'C' last year and had a good second half in 2009/10 - including 10 points in 8 playoff games for Omaha.

had a good first half as well

quick and a sniper, excellant penalty killer. played for years with Krug and coached very well, gets the game

[Hokydad]

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I'm not doubting or saying that holds no water, however their numbers were very, very even last year, and that has to count for something, whether that means Iles could have performed as well as Campbell did in the international competitions, we'll never know. Iles will put up excellent numbers at Cornell, partially due to the system they play.

numbers have nothing to do with it. Campbell played in eevry big game. They might have had 40 goalies floating around but he was always number 1.

Led world u-18's in save pct, over 96%, GA, .83 and was vioted top goalie.

stopped 81 of 82 shots in last 3 games, Canada, Finland and Sweden, had 2 shutouts and beat Sweden in finals 3-1, stopping 33 of 34

Played 6 games, Isles played in 1 vs Belarus

It was not a 1A and 1B

Isles is good and will get better but is not ready as a 1 at Cornell.

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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I'm not doubting or saying that holds no water, however their numbers were very, very even last year, and that has to count for something, whether that means Iles could have performed as well as Campbell did in the international competitions, we'll never know. Iles will put up excellent numbers at Cornell, partially due to the system they play.

Quit while you're ahead here. Iles was not the top goalie there and while you said it was "arguable" that only proves that someone can argue anything. He wasn't the top goalie there. Let's move on.

[Bill]

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For LSSU, I think Colin Campbell (forward) should be the top freshman, and he was an under the radar type guy when it came to recruiting.

[ts8801]

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I'm not doubting or saying that holds no water, however their numbers were very, very even last year, and that has to count for something, whether that means Iles could have performed as well as Campbell did in the international competitions, we'll never know. Iles will put up excellent numbers at Cornell, partially due to the system they play.

Interesting how your arguably top goalie didn't play against any of the top teams, Iles is behind Lee and Cambell by a considerable margin.

[MoFan]

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if the team played 56 games and he played 14, hard to say they had him as top goalie. Campbell was the top goalie by a mile and where he was drafted supports taht. That and his huge international wins and championships

Isles is good but might be to small for D 1

You might be right. Campbell didn't seem to play that many games but I don't know who faced the better competition. As a first round pick though I'm sure he's great. I'm just saying Iles might be an under the radar frosh who has a positive impact at the D1 level.

[fangers]

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To address the whole Campbell/Ises/Team USA thing:

The posters who are simply looking at the stats from the USHL stat page and trying to draw some parallels really don't understand how the US Development team works. There are two teams (U18s, U17s) but they play as one entity in the USHL - that is why you'll see 4 goalies listed on their team stat page. The U18s only play about 25% of the USHL games, while the U17s play the majority, so that is why it appears the Campbell had such few games. The U18s played against college teams and internationally for most of their games. You also have to look at the teams that each goalie played against - Campbell frew most of the tougher games.

One could argue that this past season's U18 were the deepest, most talented team to ever come thru the Dev program, so both Campbell and Iles benefited from having a great team in front of them, but Campbell proved he's the best North American goalie of his age group in his international play. Not a knock on Iles at all he I would expect he'll be a very solid player for Cornell, but Campbell simply the better of the two.

[MoFan]

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I'm not disagreeing with any of the Campbell discussion. But aren't they the same age roughly? Didn't Iles play against college competition too? And didn't Campbell de-commit from Michigan? Iles will be a college hockey freshman next year so I think he's the one to talk about on this thread. I'm sure that Campbell is much better as evidenced by the fact that he was a first round pick.

Mike Garman at Cornell is taller and over four years older than Iles. But he has played sparingly the last two years. I think it will be interesting to see who plays at the start of the season and who's the #1 goalie by the end of the season.

[cross cheque]

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Nick Bjugstad for UM will have a big year if he gets put on a line with some decent players he will be considered but not chosen for Rookie of the Year because he'll get stuck on a line with Patterson and Okposo's ghost.

[sandiegoblkbr]

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Maine - Ouellette and Anthoine.

[First Time, Long Time]

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For St. Cloud the impact freshmen are likely to be Cam Reid, Mitch Macmillan, and Nic Dowd on offense and Nick Jensen and Kevin Gravel on the blueline.

[NEWI Badger Fan]

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I'm not disagreeing with any of the Campbell discussion. But aren't they the same age roughly? Didn't Iles play against college competition too? And didn't Campbell de-commit from Michigan? Iles will be a college hockey freshman next year so I think he's the one to talk about on this thread. I'm sure that Campbell is much better as evidenced by the fact that he was a first round pick.

Mike Garman at Cornell is taller and over four years older than Iles. But he has played sparingly the last two years. I think it will be interesting to see who plays at the start of the season and who's the #1 goalie by the end of the season.

Campbell did de-commit and will be playing for Windsor this season.