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  • Jasma
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    Originally posted by Quinn57 View Post
    Just heard about this via the weekly ECAC newsletter.

    One thing that has not been said is this could have a fringe benefit to students and young alumni. A weekend in Albany supporting your College Hockey team? Nice. A weekend of supporting your College Hockey team in Atlantic City with gambling, shows and everything else the town has to offer? Sounds a lot more appealing as a recent grad.

    I'll agree w/ most here that it is far out of the way for a number of traditionally successful North Country schools but I think your fervent support actually hurt you guys here. I'd imagine those in charge counted in your support whereever the event was held. This move seemed to be designed to integrate more fringe supporters and encourage them to make a weekend out of the event. And for that, Atlantic City was always going to be a better option than Albany.

    Full disclosure: I live in Philadelphia and I'm stoked at the shorter commute and cool looking venue.
    You are probably right about the North Country, Cornell and RPI fans being taken a bit for granted. They travel well. Any place bu Placid has to be a weekend for Clarkson and SLU, except for those that only go some to day two.

    The idea about appealing to more ringe supporters and NYC alum are both secondary benefits. The only reason the league chose Atlantic City is because AC offered a lot more money than any other city. Congratulations to AC. They have the A-10 Hoops and now ECAC Hockey. it appears as though bringing in big events like this to that facility is a major part of their marketing plan.

    As far as moving the ECAC to Worcester, Springfield, Bridgeport and some of the other cities mentioned. Get a grip. Those three offer less to do than Albany and are longer drives for most of the league, especially the teams that actually bring some fans.

    At least AC is a bit of a destination, like Placid and Boston. I say, give it a chance. The ECAC gets some extra cash, that I hope they put back into promoting the league, and AC might actually be fun. Try it; you might like it.

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  • Quinn57
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    Re: The ECAC Championships are moving...

    Just heard about this via the weekly ECAC newsletter.

    One thing that has not been said is this could have a fringe benefit to students and young alumni. A weekend in Albany supporting your College Hockey team? Nice. A weekend of supporting your College Hockey team in Atlantic City with gambling, shows and everything else the town has to offer? Sounds a lot more appealing as a recent grad.

    I'll agree w/ most here that it is far out of the way for a number of traditionally successful North Country schools but I think your fervent support actually hurt you guys here. I'd imagine those in charge counted in your support whereever the event was held. This move seemed to be designed to integrate more fringe supporters and encourage them to make a weekend out of the event. And for that, Atlantic City was always going to be a better option than Albany.

    Full disclosure: I live in Philadelphia and I'm stoked at the shorter commute and cool looking venue.

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  • sshablak
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    If you go more than one block from the "strip" where the rink is brink your Ouzzi.

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  • kdiff77
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    I haven't read the entire thread, so forgive me if I'm reiterating what others have said.

    The thing that bugs me about this decision is that it benefits ONE and only one team's fans: Princeton. I believe (without taking the time to look up the exact mileage) that Atlantic City is further from every other school than Albany is. I can't really see the logic behind this. Sure, there's more entertainment in AC, but you go to a hockey tournament to watch hockey, not to get drunk, eat at fancy restaurants, and gamble to your heart's desire. Albany was a little bland, so I was definitely in favor of moving the weekend to a more exciting and attractive city, but this is just a terrible selection based on geography, fan demographics, and probably in terms of revenue for the ECAC (I doubt they'll be able to get such a good draw that they make more of a profit than in Albany). To me, Lake Placid, Albany, Boston, Bridgeport, NYC, Manchester, Hartford, Providence, Worcester, Springfield, etc. all make more sense. Hell, I'd rather see it in Lowell at the crappy arena UML calls home. This makes absolutely zero sense to me, unless the league is banking on the assumption that everybody likes gambling, and will therefore be attracted to a place like AC.

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  • joecct
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    Originally posted by jmh View Post
    South Mountain (now Richard J. Codey Arena) is in West Orange. It's nice enough after the recent renovation, but it only seats 2,500; decent for regular games for a team that doesn't have many fans, I guess, but not big enough for any kind of a major tournament. And no, there's really not much around. (Trust me, I grew up like five minutes from there.)
    So if SMA holds 2,500, it would actually look CROWDED for an ECAC playoff game??

    Edit: Have a suggestion to liven up things -- get one of the ring girls to come out with a placard right after the zam break to show us what period we're in.
    Last edited by joecct; 10-02-2009, 10:45 AM.

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  • ServinisScores
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    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    As a former resident of Bergenfield (the next town north) I can heartily testify the the Teaneck Armory is still standing and was the orginal home of the New Jersey Americans (now Nets). The fact that a number of Americans games were postponed/forfeited due to a leaky roof that warped the floor should be immaterial to the merits of the Northern
    NJ,

    Now, an arena that WOULD fit the ECAC would be the South Mountain Arena located in East Orange(?). Just off the interstate and past Seton Hall Prep, the SMA has been host of the NJ State High School championships and other important events in its long and illustrious history.

    Each seat is a real seat, not a bleacher, so you can relax in comfort as you enjoy the finest hockey in the Garden State.
    Ever been to the Cedar Lane Grille?

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  • Red Cloud
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    Originally posted by bothman View Post
    Yes. I do like mousse.
    You would, cake eater.

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  • Wardy
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    Originally posted by SCONF View Post
    SMA is also where the Devils practice, so it has adequate locker room space and parking even though it's not in a metropolitan area (both my parents grew up in surrounding towns). It was recently redone and really is quite nice, but the fact that there are few hotels near by and little to no other attractions in the vicinity, I don't ever see the ECAC utilizing the rink. (The only restaurant I'd want to go to right in the area is Starlite and that can't hold a whole crowd's worth of people).
    The Devils do not use Cody Arena (SMA) as their practice facility anymore opting for the new practice rink that's attached to the Prudential Center.

    I always wished that Seton Hall would jump into varsity hockey and Cody Arena with some minor renovations would be a perfect venue for that school. Of course pigs will be flying before that ever happens.

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  • bothman
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    Originally posted by Red Cloud View Post
    As long as it's rich. Cake eater.
    Yes. I do like mousse.

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  • jmh
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    Re: The ECAC Championships are moving...

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    Now, an arena that WOULD fit the ECAC would be the South Mountain Arena located in East Orange(?). Just off the interstate and past Seton Hall Prep, the SMA has been host of the NJ State High School championships and other important events in its long and illustrious history. Each seat is a real seat, not a bleacher, so you can relax in comfort as you enjoy the finest hockey in the Garden State.
    Originally posted by SCONF View Post
    SMA is also where the Devils practice, so it has adequate locker room space and parking even though it's not in a metropolitan area (both my parents grew up in surrounding towns). It was recently redone and really is quite nice, but the fact that there are few hotels near by and little to no other attractions in the vicinity, I don't ever see the ECAC utilizing the rink. (The only restaurant I'd want to go to right in the area is Starlite and that can't hold a whole crowd's worth of people).
    South Mountain (now Richard J. Codey Arena) is in West Orange. It's nice enough after the recent renovation, but it only seats 2,500; decent for regular games for a team that doesn't have many fans, I guess, but not big enough for any kind of a major tournament. And no, there's really not much around. (Trust me, I grew up like five minutes from there.)

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  • Red Cloud
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    Originally posted by bothman View Post
    Preferably chocolate!
    As long as it's rich. Cake eater.

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  • French Rage
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    Originally posted by Wardy View Post
    Well they blew-up Puckman in Albany last night, and they blew up his house too,
    Down on the boardwalk gloves dropped in a hell of a fight, gonna see what those Fightin' Deer Ticks can do,
    Now there's trouble musclin' from outta state, and Feola can't get no relief,
    Gonna be a rumble out on the prominade,
    And non-conference Huntsville is holding on by the skin of its teeth.
    I tip my hat.

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  • Ralph Baer
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    Originally posted by Wardy View Post
    Well they blew-up Puckman in Albany last night, and they blew up his house too,

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  • Wardy
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    Well they blew-up Puckman in Albany last night, and they blew up his house too,
    Down on the boardwalk gloves dropped in a hell of a fight, gonna see what those Fightin' Deer Ticks can do,
    Now there's trouble musclin' from outta state, and Feola can't get no relief,
    Gonna be a rumble out on the prominade,
    And non-conference Huntsville is holding on by the skin of its teeth.


    Originally posted by French Rage View Post
    ECAC attendace died, baby, that's fact,
    Maybe moving the tourney will make it come back,
    Put your helmet on, fix your mullet up pretty,
    We'll play some hockey in Atlantic City.

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  • bothman
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    Originally posted by Red Cloud View Post
    Cake eater.
    Preferably chocolate!

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