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  • #16
    Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

    Originally posted by Priceless View Post
    Average number of viewers for the regionals: 57,500
    Viewers for the Michigan/BSU game: 5,750
    Where are these numbers from?


    College hockey is very close to being completely irrelevant.
    As far as TV is concerned, I'd pretty much agree. Sometimes I am surprised we get to still see basically the entire tournament covered live, and have for the last few years now. I don't think that is necessarily a permanent arrangement by any stretch.

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    • #17
      Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

      Originally posted by IrishHockeyFan View Post
      Where are these numbers from?
      An ESPN employee.

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      • #18
        Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

        Originally posted by Priceless View Post
        An ESPN employee.


        I would doubt the validity of them, especially the 5750 for the UM/BSU game. It seems odd that it is exactly 1/10 of the overall regional average to begin with, especially since UM is one of the biggest brand names in college sports, and one of the few teams that could draw in casual viewers. I also don't believe an accurate measurement of a number that low could be made with TV households numbering 114.9 million for this season. A rating of .1 would still be 114,900 viewers and that would equal a rating of .005.

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        • #19
          Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

          The ESPN employee forgot the other number in that discussion

          Number of people who have ESPNU without a $20 a month sports pack: 2,000,000
          "I went over the facts in my head, and admired how much uglier the situation had just become. Over the years I've learned that ignorance is more than just bliss. It's freaking orgasmic ecstasy".- Harry Dresden, Blood Rites


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          • #20
            Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

            Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
            I would doubt the validity of them, especially the 5750 for the UM/BSU game. It seems odd that it is exactly 1/10 of the overall regional average to begin with, especially since UM is one of the biggest brand names in college sports, and one of the few teams that could draw in casual viewers. I also don't believe an accurate measurement of a number that low could be made with TV households numbering 114.9 million for this season. A rating of .1 would still be 114,900 viewers and that would equal a rating of .005.
            .005 is correct.

            Many Michigan fans watched the game on a regional syndication. Those are the numbers for ESPNU.

            And what sports pack costs $20? The DTV sports pack costs $13 and Dish costs $6. It's not like these games were on PPV. According to ESPN, the channel is available in more than 55 million households.

            For comparison, the NHL on NBC rating for 4/4 was .8, followed by a golf tournament that earned a 2. .8 is exactly the same rating ABC got for its NBA pre-game show. The games themselves earned a 2.1 and 2.5 rating. Horse racing earned a 1.5; a recent tape-delayed hour of Moto-Cross earned CBS a .6 rating.

            Ratings for hockey suck. Argue semantics all you want, but the numbers for all hockey - and college hockey in particular - are abysmal.

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            • #21
              Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

              Originally posted by Priceless View Post
              .005 is correct.

              Many Michigan fans watched the game on a regional syndication. Those are the numbers for ESPNU.

              And what sports pack costs $20? The DTV sports pack costs $13 and Dish costs $6. It's not like these games were on PPV. According to ESPN, the channel is available in more than 55 million households.


              Ratings for hockey suck. Argue semantics all you want, but the numbers for all hockey - and college hockey in particular - are abysmal.
              I'm not arguing that the ratings don't suck, but the possible ceiling for a channel that is on a sports tier and not basic expanded cable is not going to be high, especially in this economy. I'd bet the football/basketball ratings on ESPNU are a fraction of what ESPN2 gets. That's part of the reason that Versus and DirectTV just had a 8 month ****ing contest. "Available in X number of households" is a meaningless number. Porn is available on my tv on a daily basis, and probably most of the 114 million households in America. No one's going to pay for that, either.
              "I went over the facts in my head, and admired how much uglier the situation had just become. Over the years I've learned that ignorance is more than just bliss. It's freaking orgasmic ecstasy".- Harry Dresden, Blood Rites


              Western Michigan Bronco Hockey- 2012 Mason Cup Champions

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              • #22
                Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

                Translation of Skeeterman's point:

                "I'm so upset that my team is an enormous joke and that my school is about as prestigious as a cosmetology college. Maybe someday I'll get to give Coach Dahl a BJ and declare my eternal love for him! I just wish I had the IQ of a blonde porn fluffer!"
                Bulldog Hockey: 2011 National Champions! Finally!!!

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                • #23
                  Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

                  Originally posted by ericredaxe View Post
                  seemed like they could not navigate away from Ford Field quickly enough.
                  Isn't that normally the case anyway?

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                  • #24
                    Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

                    How about not even bothering to televise it? I mean, all people do is ***** about the production, the announcers, any minor errors that most people wouldn't know so why bother televising any games nationally?

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                    • #25
                      Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

                      ESPN is for football and baseball teams. I can't wait until next year's games are only on the radio so just the real fans can appreciate it.
                      Originally posted by dicaslover
                      Yep, you got it. I heart Maize.

                      Originally posted by Kristin
                      Maybe I'm missing something but you just asked me which MSU I go to and then you knew the theme of my homecoming, how do you know one and not the other?

                      Western College Hockey Blog

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                      • #26
                        Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

                        Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                        Average number of viewers for the regionals: 57,500
                        Viewers for the Michigan/BSU game: 5,750
                        I don't know about the Michigan/BSU game--though I did watch on the same TV as my good buddy Bruce McLeod, so technically it was at least 5751 viewers, but the Michigan/Miami game drew over 5000 viewers on justin.tv and was the most popular feed on the site. If you can draw that on a pirate TV site, I would guess you'd do at least decently on a real station. It's more a problem that ESPNU is a **** channel that nobody gets.
                        Originally posted by dicaslover
                        Yep, you got it. I heart Maize.

                        Originally posted by Kristin
                        Maybe I'm missing something but you just asked me which MSU I go to and then you knew the theme of my homecoming, how do you know one and not the other?

                        Western College Hockey Blog

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                        • #27
                          Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

                          The Michigan/BSU game was a syndication game and tape delayed on ESPNU. Is that the ESPNU number?

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                          • #28
                            Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

                            Originally posted by SteveP View Post
                            My thoughts exactly as soon as Thorne said "for more, go to ESPN News"

                            Ridiculous.
                            1. College hockey = niche sport, more than other niche sports.
                            2. College hockey fans will watch their sport wherever, whenever

                            Result: we can do what we want, as long as it's on air at some point on some channel, and still win, since the fans are just happy it's on tv.
                            Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
                            Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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                            • #29
                              Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

                              Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                              .005 is correct.

                              Many Michigan fans watched the game on a regional syndication. Those are the numbers for ESPNU.
                              And my point is a rating that low cannot be measured. The only way they could arrive at this is if they called every single cable and satellite subscriber who has ESPNU in their home and asked them if they were watching the game. That's why I question the validity of that number. Yes, whatever it was it was surely very small. But it likely was so small it cannot be measured by the normal ways TV audiences are counted. I also think that in a country with over 300 million people 5000 people stumbled on it by accident, let alone those who watched it on purpose.



                              According to ESPN, the channel is available in more than 55 million households.
                              I believe ESPNU is actually IN about 55 million households. It is AVAILABLE in virtually every household. Anyone with DISHNet or DirecTV can get it if they choose to, and most cable companies offer it on one of their tiers. Fewer than 20% of all households are incapable of getting it if they choose.

                              Ratings for hockey suck. Argue semantics all you want, but the numbers for all hockey - and college hockey in particular - are abysmal.
                              This is definitely true. As much bashing as the NC$$ gets from most of us (and most of it well earned) thank God they care enough about hockey to force ESPN to carry the championship round live on channels nearly everyone gets and strongly encourages them to produce live coverage of the regionals that most everyone has access to.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Sports Center--interrupted by a hockey game.

                                I wonder what will get better ratings for ESPN...college hockey last night in prime time or college bowling on a Sunday afternoon (vs the Masters).

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