Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
Agreed. Dartmouth played a very disciplined game that seemed to create lots of issues for the Bears. Most noticeable was the inability to generate much zone possession on the PP opportunities. Brown did make a lot of mistakes.
That said, the Bears outshot Dartmouth pretty much every period and I believe had more scoring opportunities. They were pretty snake bitten. I think one goal is all they needed to create some momentum and perhaps take this one. I expect a good bounce back next weekend with the Clarkson and St. Lawrence trip. This team appears to play better on the road.
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Well, I wanted to post on the Dartmouth thread to congratulate them, but I can't seem to find one.
Anyway, last night was incredibly frustrating. Dartmouth appears to have meticulously plotted out our every movement and was all over us. They seemed content, from the first whistle, to let us control the flow of the game and just sit back and defend. Well, it worked. Because they knew EXACTLY how to defend us. They put four guys in the middle at all times and had one chasing the puck carrier. Simple, but it confused the hell out of us and we failed to adapt. It didn't help that luck was not on our side and that we made trillions of fundamental mistakes. It also didn't help that Mello absolutely robbed us on several occasions.
All in all, it was a weird feeling, because clearly Dartmouth outplayed and outcoached us, but I still subconsciously felt we deserved a better fate. Maybe it was because we had so much control of the flow of the game, even though we were so sloppy. Very frustrating, and I hate the fact that we've score 5 goals in 5 games since the win over Yale. For a team that has almost no defense and prides itself on its offensive explosions, that's just unacceptable.
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Originally posted by Herrmoto View PostHaven't seen that many Brown games over recent years, but went to the first BU game this year- expecting to see a Terriers blowout- but came away pleasantly surprised. This was a Bears team that did not show up at Agganis arena just to have a hockey experience- it came to win. And I have to credit the Captain, Harry Z, for setting the tone. He absolutely battled on every inch of the ice, winning puck battles, finishing checks, etc. He got ejected on the reaction of a BU player to the aforementioned knee to knee hit (BU player crumpled to the ice but returned to play the rest of the game.) That kind of heart is infectious, and the young man will take that spirit to the NHL- guaranteed. Yes, the penalties are a downside, and it's too bad he yaps at the officials. But the kind of emotion this player brings to the ice is going to boil over now and again. Harry Z is an outstanding player and leader- glad I got a chance to see him play.
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Haven't seen that many Brown games over recent years, but went to the first BU game this year- expecting to see a Terriers blowout- but came away pleasantly surprised. This was a Bears team that did not show up at Agganis arena just to have a hockey experience- it came to win. And I have to credit the Captain, Harry Z, for setting the tone. He absolutely battled on every inch of the ice, winning puck battles, finishing checks, etc. He got ejected on the reaction of a BU player to the aforementioned knee to knee hit (BU player crumpled to the ice but returned to play the rest of the game.) That kind of heart is infectious, and the young man will take that spirit to the NHL- guaranteed. Yes, the penalties are a downside, and it's too bad he yaps at the officials. But the kind of emotion this player brings to the ice is going to boil over now and again. Harry Z is an outstanding player and leader- glad I got a chance to see him play.
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Originally posted by Waterboy66 View Post...I also wonder if he hasn't become a bit of a target for both the opposing teams, and the refs.
Definitely he is targeted by our opponents not only for extra-hard checks and "Academy Award" fake tripping performances, but also by the defense. Both he and Jack get double-covered much of the time these days. As a result, Harry may have to play even chippier just to get past the defenders.
Like others who have commented, I still feel Harry's contributions this year outweigh his penchant for penalties. It would be great if he could muzzle his mouth a bit more when he disagrees with officiating; more discretion seems especially appropriate for the team's captain.
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Chipping in my two cents on Harry Z. He brings great energy to the game, and explosive speed that Brown cannot do without. It's funny that earlier in the season, other than the knee on knee hit against BU I didn't really see many bad penalties from Harry. More recently he has gotten a few that I would say are 'bad' but I also wonder if he hasn't become a bit of a target for both the opposing teams, and the refs. Perhaps the opposing team thinks getting someone to spar with him is a way of taking him off his game. It is definitely a way of getting him off the ice. He definitely needs to stop getting in these situations where he takes a bad penalty, but I think he is getting lots of help.
While we look at this downside of Harry, we need to remember that he pretty much single-handedly won the Yale game for us, assisting on the first two goals, and then just willing his way to scoring the winner with just a few minutes on the clock. He's a keeper on any team I would select.
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Originally posted by kdiff77 View PostTwo years ago, coming to a Brown game was something to be dreaded. We played ugly hockey that encouraged physicality but not discipline, and seemed to discourage finesse play and what most consider to be "good" hockey. Our coach had consistently recruited decent players, so we perpetually had hope watching all the freshman show glimpses of what they could do, but after their freshman seasons, most faded and became mediocre. Meehan Auditorium was lifeless, both on the ice and off. Opponents would come in and skate circles around us and run up the score. We would get frustrated, start retaliating to provocative attempts from the opponent, and the game would get out of control. If this didn't occur, then we would simple meander around the ice for 60 minutes with no aim and get pummeled. We were near the bottom of the NCAA in almost every significant category- win percentage, GAA, GFA, shots per game, shots against, penalty minutes, PK %age, and PP conversion %age. The coaching staff refused to change its ways, insisting on proliferating flawed methods which were proven wrong time and again.
Today, a Brown hockey game is an experience. The team is exciting, fun to watch, and actually warrants paying money to see it. Sure, we're penalized a lot, and sure, our PK isn't very good, so we screw ourselves over a lot. But believe me- to see this team play with the heart and energy it has been this season is enough to make me definitively answer"yes" to your question. Yes, it is worth having Zolynierczek 2-3 times a game. His tireless approach and tremendous work ethic is an intangible any coach would love. There have been times in the past where I have been livid at him for one stupid penalty or another, but you know what? It's absolutely, 100%, without a doubt worth it. Know why? Because he makes Brown hockey fun. And that's exactly what it was not for the better part of the last two decades.
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Originally posted by kdiff77 View PostTwo years ago, coming to a Brown game was something to be dreaded. We played ugly hockey that encouraged physicality but not discipline, and seemed to discourage finesse play and what most consider to be "good" hockey. Our coach had consistently recruited decent players, so we perpetually had hope watching all the freshman show glimpses of what they could do, but after their freshman seasons, most faded and became mediocre. Meehan Auditorium was lifeless, both on the ice and off. Opponents would come in and skate circles around us and run up the score. We would get frustrated, start retaliating to provocative attempts from the opponent, and the game would get out of control. If this didn't occur, then we would simple meander around the ice for 60 minutes with no aim and get pummeled. We were near the bottom of the NCAA in almost every significant category- win percentage, GAA, GFA, shots per game, shots against, penalty minutes, PK %age, and PP conversion %age. The coaching staff refused to change its ways, insisting on proliferating flawed methods which were proven wrong time and again.
Today, a Brown hockey game is an experience. The team is exciting, fun to watch, and actually warrants paying money to see it. Sure, we're penalized a lot, and sure, our PK isn't very good, so we screw ourselves over a lot. But believe me- to see this team play with the heart and energy it has been this season is enough to make me definitively answer"yes" to your question. Yes, it is worth having Zolynierczek 2-3 times a game. His tireless approach and tremendous work ethic is an intangible any coach would love. There have been times in the past where I have been livid at him for one stupid penalty or another, but you know what? It's absolutely, 100%, without a doubt worth it. Know why? Because he makes Brown hockey fun. And that's exactly what it was not for the better part of the last two decades.
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Tonight's game has been postponed until Tuesday the 22nd due to inclement weather.
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Originally posted by kdiff77 View PostTwo years ago, coming to a Brown game was something to be dreaded. We played ugly hockey that encouraged physicality but not discipline, and seemed to discourage finesse play and what most consider to be "good" hockey. Our coach had consistently recruited decent players, so we perpetually had hope watching all the freshman show glimpses of what they could do, but after their freshman seasons, most faded and became mediocre. Meehan Auditorium was lifeless, both on the ice and off. Opponents would come in and skate circles around us and run up the score. We would get frustrated, start retaliating to provocative attempts from the opponent, and the game would get out of control. If this didn't occur, then we would simple meander around the ice for 60 minutes with no aim and get pummeled. We were near the bottom of the NCAA in almost every significant category- win percentage, GAA, GFA, shots per game, shots against, penalty minutes, PK %age, and PP conversion %age. The coaching staff refused to change its ways, insisting on proliferating flawed methods which were proven wrong time and again.
Today, a Brown hockey game is an experience. The team is exciting, fun to watch, and actually warrants paying money to see it. Sure, we're penalized a lot, and sure, our PK isn't very good, so we screw ourselves over a lot. But believe me- to see this team play with the heart and energy it has been this season is enough to make me definitively answer"yes" to your question. Yes, it is worth having Zolynierczek 2-3 times a game. His tireless approach and tremendous work ethic is an intangible any coach would love. There have been times in the past where I have been livid at him for one stupid penalty or another, but you know what? It's absolutely, 100%, without a doubt worth it. Know why? Because he makes Brown hockey fun. And that's exactly what it was not for the better part of the last two decades.
Last week KenSchotts the beat writer who covers Union and the ECAC called Harry a dirty player. But I also heard from someone that last Saturday the Union radio color guy disagreed with that assessment. Yes, I have seen Harry take some penalties which should not have taken and could have avoided. Last weekend he played but under control except for his mouth at the end of the game. Overall I would want Harry just the way he is.
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Posted a poll for ECAC's top freshman. You can vote more than once if you feel more than one player warrants a vote...every vote counts!
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Lincoln Stars report: Berge, Quick out for season
Berge, Quick out for the season: Lincoln Stars captain Josh Berge and rookie defenseman Kyle Quick have each been injured for over a month and are now officially ruled out for the season because of concussions.
For both players it's at least the fourth known career concussion. With each concussion it takes longer to recover, and there are more concerns about the long-term health of the player, team athletic trainer Corey Courtney said.
Quick, who experienced his latest concussion during a collision in practice last month, will return home to Buffalo, N.Y., and plans to fulfill his scholarship to play at Brown University next season.
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Originally posted by Union93 View PostYes, he has great speed and can score, but do the pros outweigh the cons?
Today, a Brown hockey game is an experience. The team is exciting, fun to watch, and actually warrants paying money to see it. Sure, we're penalized a lot, and sure, our PK isn't very good, so we screw ourselves over a lot. But believe me- to see this team play with the heart and energy it has been this season is enough to make me definitively answer"yes" to your question. Yes, it is worth having Zolynierczek 2-3 times a game. His tireless approach and tremendous work ethic is an intangible any coach would love. There have been times in the past where I have been livid at him for one stupid penalty or another, but you know what? It's absolutely, 100%, without a doubt worth it. Know why? Because he makes Brown hockey fun. And that's exactly what it was not for the better part of the last two decades.
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Originally posted by Union93 View PostI don't mean to start a shouting match, but is Harry Z. really worth it? I mean he is the Captain but I really question his leadership and the affect it has on the team. It is only one game but at Union he took a dumb penalty, then got tossed with a misconduct late in the third and at one point was too busy yapping with the ref in Union's zone to realize his team was rushing through neutral ice (and Harry Z was caught off-sides.)
In addition, he already has 101 PIMs and Bruno's PK isn't exactly world class.
Yes, he has great speed and can score, but do the pros outweigh the cons?
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I don't mean to start a shouting match, but is Harry Z. really worth it? I mean he is the Captain but I really question his leadership and the affect it has on the team. It is only one game but at Union he took a dumb penalty, then got tossed with a misconduct late in the third and at one point was too busy yapping with the ref in Union's zone to realize his team was rushing through neutral ice (and Harry Z was caught off-sides.)
In addition, he already has 101 PIMs and Bruno's PK isn't exactly world class.
Yes, he has great speed and can score, but do the pros outweigh the cons?
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