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  • Re: Simple really ...

    Originally posted by thecomicbookguy View Post
    And where did anyone say that? People want to see/hear the college atmosphere at the games again. Not sure what that has to do with "matture"-ing.
    Where? MON DIEU!!! my good man, dis hole frikking tred nutting but a cry pour attention from sums a you.

    "If everyone just did the cheers like I want them to, everything would be just fine. But they won't, they just won't. I hate it I hate it I hate it oooooowh I just hate it!"

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    • Re: Simple really ...

      Originally posted by Jacques "Rabbit" Poriveau View Post
      Where? MON DIEU!!! my good man, dis hole frikking tred nutting but a cry pour attention from sums a you.

      "If everyone just did the cheers like I want them to, everything would be just fine. But they won't, they just won't. I hate it I hate it I hate it oooooowh I just hate it!"
      Ah. You might have a point. The fans shouldn't be discussing the atmosphere and attitudes of the fans. It's not like it's the one aspect of a game on which we actually have any effect. And really, it's not that big a deal, anyway. It's not like UNH has (had?) a reputation of being a loud, raucous place where it was fun to watch as a spectator and (dare I say it?) hard to play as the visiting team.

      Nah, we should stick to topics that we really have no control over.
      Success is not the result of spontaneous combustion. You must first set yourself on fire.
      -Fred Shero

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      • Re: Simple really ...

        Originally posted by thecomicbookguy View Post
        Ah. You might have a point. The fans shouldn't be discussing the atmosphere and attitudes of the fans. It's not like it's the one aspect of a game on which we actually have any effect. And really, it's not that big a deal, anyway. It's not like UNH has (had?) a reputation of being a loud, raucous place where it was fun to watch as a spectator and (dare I say it?) hard to play as the visiting team.

        Nah, we should stick to topics that we really have no control over.
        Monsieur, I not ave de probleme wif de fans talking bout ow da Whitts is ou isnt zees day. Mais when zee olde studentes saying dat zee new studentes is wrong cuz dey dont cheer juste like de olde ones I juste gonna call zee bullschitts on zat, d'accord?

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        • energy first

          Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post
          Put a better quality on-ice product out there, and everything solves itself.
          Originally posted by JB
          When they play flat-sloppy uninspiring hockey, there is a generally flat crowd.
          Yes. It's hard not to sit on my hands when the team disappoints. "The Shift" in January's Cornell game is a poignant example: how long was it before they even cleared the puck? And what was our response? Relieved outburst of cheering, then right back to sitting on our hands.

          I went to the Maine games in Orono this year (I know, whoopdedoo) and noticed almost right away two things. 1. The arena staff were incredibly rude and 2. Even in the first period of the first game, when things were not going well for Maine, the crowd was rowdy. There were cheers from the student section - not just cheers, but varied cheers, and it got the place up. Now, I couldn't see the jumbotron without holding my head under my arm, but I don't think the cheers were led by the 'tron-strosity. Maine already has energy in their building, a flat show didn't affect it, and they didn't need to be led like sheep. (let's not make comments about sheep, now)

          Flat play kills sound in a place that didn't have a lot of energy to begin with. If there's energy, there's still chatter - that "buzz" you get at a really good arena - even if there isn't a constant string of arena-rocking chants.

          I'm not saying using the big screen is the answer to all the problems. I proposed using it as a starting-off point, seeing how successful it was with the stick-figure cheer. What else are we going to put on the table?
          Originally posted by state of hockey
          Tecate tonight. Haha!
          Originally posted by state of hockey
          Ugh. That was a bad idea.
          Ever notice how, after hockey season, baseball games seem INTERMINABLE??

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          • Re: Simple really ...

            Originally posted by Jacques "Rabbit" Poriveau View Post
            Where? MON DIEU!!! my good man, dis hole frikking tred nutting but a cry pour attention from sums a you.

            "If everyone just did the cheers like I want them to, everything would be just fine. But they won't, they just won't. I hate it I hate it I hate it oooooowh I just hate it!"
            Jacques, if you're not going to offer anything constructive towards our goal of improving the atmosphere at UNH hockey games, why don't you try and refrain from posting? You're really detracting from a thread in which all the other posters, even the ones that disagree, are trying to find common ground. You're just flaming -- and failing, by the way. CbG's taking the high road, which must really get under your skin.

            And at no point did any of the people who lead the cheers ever say, "LOOK AT ME." In fact, they've been particularly quiet.

            @Cgoodwin: If CbG is done giving up the bell, make sure you have somebody who can handle that. This goes back to why I think it may be a good idea to have the Hosers involved in a transition; yes, there are tons of things a new group can bring, but some things, like Go! Fight! Win! should be carried on, IMO . . .
            I haven't been on here in a year...
            Now I'm a dad. Holy crap.

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            • Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

              bro ,these attention whores have not gone away in a decade. Ignoring them might work, but no one ever does.
              "Look to the end, no matter what it is you are considering. Often enough, God gives man a glimpse of happiness, and then utterly ruins him"

              -Herodotus

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              • Re: Simple really ...

                Originally posted by unhpuckfan2001 View Post
                Jacques, if you're not going to offer anything constructive towards our goal of improving the atmosphere at UNH hockey games, why don't you try and refrain from posting? You're really detracting from a thread in which all the other posters, even the ones that disagree, are trying to find common ground. You're just flaming -- and failing, by the way. CbG's taking the high road, which must really get under your skin.

                And at no point did any of the people who lead the cheers ever say, "LOOK AT ME." In fact, they've been particularly quiet.

                @Cgoodwin: If CbG is done giving up the bell, make sure you have somebody who can handle that. This goes back to why I think it may be a good idea to have the Hosers involved in a transition; yes, there are tons of things a new group can bring, but some things, like Go! Fight! Win! should be carried on, IMO . . .
                I don't think Matt is done with the bell yet. Our plan, or at least my plan, was to find someone else to take the bell and if we were to move our seats away from GA we were going to take our bell with us and play some stuff getting our sections into it and then one would still be in the students' section leading their cheers.
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                • Re: Simple really ...

                  Originally posted by UNHhockey29 View Post
                  I don't think Matt is done with the bell yet. Our plan, or at least my plan, was to find someone else to take the bell and if we were to move our seats away from GA we were going to take our bell with us and play some stuff getting our sections into it and then one would still be in the students' section leading their cheers.
                  Does Athletics have to bestow their blessing on the bell? The group Cloud and I are working on would benefit from a bell on some chants/songs, and I've got my own for the purpose.
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                  • Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

                    Trying to fill in the time between the first game blowout (BTW, how would we have done against Wisco. Not 6-1, but without a doubt it would have been a loss).

                    Few points. First, forget a jumbotron. UNH does not have the money, there is no sponsor on the horizon who is going to shell out for a BU type screen and, besides, my take is that they turn the fans into lemmings. Been to a Bruins or Celtics game lately? The only time the noise comes up is when Big Brother tells them it is time to cheer. Is THAT the atmosphere you want at the Whit?

                    Second, never reference Wisconsin when lamenting about UNH. Badger fans are one of a kind and have been for over 50 years. Yes, alums cheer at Wisco games, but because the whole shtick has been ingrained in them since they were fuzzy faced freshman 30-40-50 years ago. It's part of a Badger fan's DNA. My neighbor's son went to Michigan State, another fine Big Ten institution with a history of athletic achievement, and even he says that Wisco has the best fans in the Big Ten.

                    Like tCBG, I was very impressed with the student section at Maine this year. But I have been there other years (2008 for instance), when they were getting blasted by UNH, and the crowd was comatose. Their band and their fans can be pretty electric, but they certainly have ripped off a few things that belong to Wisconsin (Budweiser riff, the Rouser, etc.). You would think that they would be embarrassed to do so but, after all, it is the school that welcomed Shawn Walsh back with open arms.

                    Re: STH, I am one, and have been since the Whit opened. I've probably attended 90% of the home games over the past 35 years and there is no question that there is a difference between Snively and the Whit. First and foremost, the Whit is twice as large. That pretty much means that, to fill the arena, you are going to get more casual fans. If things are going well, the team is scoring goals, they are into it. If it is a snoozer, not much going on, they are prone to sit on their hands. Second, and I think this is the biggest thing, is that the leaders in the student section sit right on the glass. I know you guys love those seats (I stood in the equivalent back in my student days) but, let's face it, when you start a cheer no one can hear you beyond the student section. I think you have to decide which is more important, a great seat for viewing or a great seat for leading cheers. If it is the former, then it is time to give up the role and let those higher up in the stands get things going. I sit down in Section 105 and watch you guys and it is almost like you are in an isolation booth. I can see you yelling, see you clapping, but I can't hear a thing. If your choice is to rouse not only the student section, but the entire crowd, you're gonna have to move. Back when I was a student, the cheers were led by students sitting right behind the visitors bench, and played off by students on the opposite side of the ice. That is impossible to duplicate now, of course, but the key was that the students could be heard. You guys can't, it just ain't working. Time for the band, if they are going to be there every game (important point), and are willing, to take the lead.

                    Final thing - Chris!!!!, Eaglebunny, Bobby Brady, Carmine, Jacques. Why does my cynical nature lead me to link these names together. And why do they feel that it is worthy of their time to pollute our thread when their own team is about to face off in the national semi-finals. Agree Chuck? If you don't, I'm sure Bobo will.

                    Carry on.

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                    • Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

                      Greg,
                      I know it's a neutral site, but Wisconsin manhandled UNH in October. No contest, both nights. I was there. In fact, I saw UNH play against all the Frozen Four teams. Wisco was by far the best.
                      AKA Boguniecki 33 on the road, except at UMass Amherst, and Magness Arena, where I can't get enough of Mowers, Mowers, you s**k!

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                      • Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

                        Originally posted by Greg Ambrose View Post
                        Trying to fill in the time between the first game blowout (BTW, how would we have done against Wisco. Not 6-1, but without a doubt it would have been a loss).

                        Like tCBG, I was very impressed with the student section at Maine this year. But I have been there other years (2008 for instance), when they were getting blasted by UNH, and the crowd was comatose. Their band and their fans can be pretty electric, but they certainly have ripped off a few things that belong to Wisconsin (Budweiser riff, the Rouser, etc.). You would think that they would be embarrassed to do so but, after all, it is the school that welcomed Shawn Walsh back with open arms.
                        Carry on.
                        As a NH resident who went to games at Snively when I was in High School, and then went to Maine for college allow me to chime in. Atmosphere at Snively in the day was second to none, and was without the $uck cheer that is rampant at every arena with the exception of Maine. Alfond's fans have been among the cleanest and most creative over the years (yes there is bias involved and the 2nd night vs UNH this year was embarrassing as many got involved in throwing crap on the ice.

                        As to the Bud song there is some history to that. When Maine went to Milwaukee in 1993 the Wisconsin Band Director reached out to Maine's to play it to get the home crowd going. Well they not only got going they started to cheer for Maine against Michigan and again vs. Lake St. and it stuck. Our Band Director was not going to do it, but mentioned it to Shawn and Walsh said "You have to do it!". So yes we copied it as did BU, but it does have some history. On the rouser I just asked my daughter what piece that was (she played in the band the last 4 years) and she was not sure what that is, nothing called that anyway, but I am guessing it is played everywhere.

                        Shawn's been dead 9 years, and I know with Chuck lurking I'll get my ears pinned back, but let it rest!

                        You want some atmosphere back at the Whitt, bring back Black Betty! Get rid of piped music! The move of the band to the student section is an improvement. One of Shawn's great moves was insisting on putting the band and the student section in the balcony over the opposing netminder for 2 periods. As those who have been to Alfond know you are literally hanging over the goalie.

                        Finally I wish it was UNH vs. Wisconsin in that first game too! Most my friends are UNH fans and I would have been able to sell my FF ticket, which I instead donated to the Detroit Youth Hockey Association.

                        Okay almost time for game 2, I need a refill!

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                        • Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

                          Stein Song at Maine prexisted Maine hockey.
                          AKA Boguniecki 33 on the road, except at UMass Amherst, and Magness Arena, where I can't get enough of Mowers, Mowers, you s**k!

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                          • Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

                            Originally posted by Mowers10 View Post
                            Stein Song at Maine prexisted Maine hockey.
                            Yeah it pre-existed most of us on this board. I have an old vinyl framed in my office recorded by Rudy Vallee. Nothing like a drinking song as a fight song!

                            Wish you were in Detroit Mowers.

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                            • Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

                              Originally posted by Mowers10 View Post
                              Greg,
                              I know it's a neutral site, but Wisconsin manhandled UNH in October. No contest, both nights. I was there. In fact, I saw UNH play against all the Frozen Four teams. Wisco was by far the best.
                              Ditto.

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                              • Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

                                Originally posted by Greg Ambrose View Post
                                I've probably attended 90% of the home games over the past 35 years and there is no question that there is a difference between Snively and the Whit. First and foremost, the Whit is twice as large. That pretty much means that, to fill the arena, you are going to get more casual fans. If things are going well, the team is scoring goals, they are into it. If it is a snoozer, not much going on, they are prone to sit on their hands.
                                DEAD ON!!! Exactly the same as at BU. Walter Brown Arena (cap. 3300) was LOUDER than Agganis (cap. 6300). The sound would bounce off that low metal roof and it was deafening. Is it a more comfortable situation at Agganis? Of course. There's no comparison. Comfortable seats with a steep bowl (back row is only 60 feet from the ice surface), underground parking garage, club room, state of the art locker room facilities...the list goes on and on. But there's always a trade-off. For the HE quarterfinals this year, we had crowds of 3200, 3400 and 3100. Same last year against Maine. (I know it's a break week for the students, but MOST of the fans that attend are adults anyway). And the irony is the argument was that the new arena would help them turn the corner and beat BC at the recruiting game. Well, BC (and I'm watching them obliterate Miami as I write this) has been the DOMINANT program in Boston for ten years and is pulling away from us. I actually think the laid back atmosphere HURTS recruiting. Do I like the comfortable seats with the cup holders? Yes. Do I like the fact that the place is DEAD almost every game? NO!!!! But it is what it is. You have to accept it. It's all about money today, and the casual fan (read, "spoiled rotten") won't go to a game unless the "amenities" that make you feel as though you are in your own living room are there. Looking at the bigger picture, as a season ticket holder, I get emails every week about the next "Sesame Street Live," "Stars on Ice," "World Team Tennis," or some concert event. THAT'S why they built the arena. It generates more revenue for the University. I can't speak for UNH, because I'm sure they don't get as many "off season" events, but one thing I DO know. We're not going back to the "old" days. Some of us sounded that warning before they built a facility like this. Remember, this is the same school that dropped football. Frankly, I'd rather see 2000 rabid fans than 4000, half of whom sit on their hands. But that ship has sailed.

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