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  • #16
    Re: Ticket prices???

    Originally posted by Roben View Post
    They'd better hope it's an all WCHA Frozen Four next year in St. Paul to get the numbers.
    The Frozen Four and regionals are two completely different animals.

    The Frozen Four sells out a year in advance to people who make it an annual event (this year notwithstanding, thanks to the Ford Field experiment). People travelling with the teams also have 2 weeks to make arrangements. The crowd are mainly out-of-towners.

    Regionals have 4-5 days of lead time and depend heavily on locals for attendance.

    Originally posted by pinch View Post
    The prices are going to ruin this event. STUDENTS should be able to purchase tickets for $10...if you want to overcharge others, that is fine, but students should be given the opportunity to attend the regionals at a special rate
    Nice in theory, but good luck with that one.
    Last edited by unofan; 03-29-2010, 11:02 AM.

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    • #17
      Re: Ticket prices???

      Originally posted by unofan View Post
      The Frozen Four and regionals are two completely different animals.

      The Frozen Four sells out a year in advance to people who make it an annual event (this year notwithstanding, thanks to the Ford Field experiment). People travelling with the teams also have 2 weeks to make arrangements. The crowd are mainly out-of-towners.

      Regionals have 4-5 days of lead time and depend heavily on locals for attendance.
      I was watching some of the basketball this weekend and on one of the games (don't remember which one) the camera pulled back and much of the upper deck of that arena was empty too.

      I agree that much of the problem is clearly the inablity of most people to rearrange their schedule on a few days notice to travel half way across the country, no matter what the ticket price. The tickets need to be priced to get the locals to show up.

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      • #18
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        I asked all of my friends if they wanted to go to the games in Worcester and they pretty much laughed at me when I told them how much it would cost.

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        • #19
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          Couldn't agree more with the rants on this post. The prices are absolutley ridiculous! I hope the greed merchants of the National Communistic Athletic Association are reading these post of MANY upset college hockey fans!
          There is Hope . . .

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          • #20
            Re: Ticket prices???

            Originally posted by unofan View Post
            The Frozen Four and regionals are two completely different animals.

            The Frozen Four sells out a year in advance to people who make it an annual event (this year notwithstanding, thanks to the Ford Field experiment). People travelling with the teams also have 2 weeks to make arrangements. The crowd are mainly out-of-towners.

            Regionals have 4-5 days of lead time and depend heavily on locals for attendance.



            Nice in theory, but good luck with that one.
            I forgot about that...I haven't bought F4 tickets, so it didn't come to mind. Ah well...regional prices still could be improved. Profits would still be realized. Lowering the cost of a ticket will allow someone to feel less strapped for cash, and spend money on the higher margin concessions, like beer or the $5 hot dog.
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            • #21
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              Originally posted by The Vicar View Post
              I hope the greed merchants of the National Communistic Athletic Association are reading these post of MANY upset college hockey fans!
              I do not think one of those words means what you think it means.

              1/10 on the troll attempt.

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              • #22
                Re: Ticket prices???

                Originally posted by unofan View Post
                I do not think one of those words means what you think it means.

                1/10 on the troll attempt.
                No, Vicar got it right.

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                • #23
                  Re: Ticket prices???

                  With the 2010 FF tickets now in hand and the tournament set to begin in less than two weeks, I thought you might be interested to see the historical record of ticket price inflation for the Frozen Four that has taken place over the last 35 years:

                  1976 $13.50 (D. U. Arena, Denver)

                  1980 $24.00 (Providence Civic Center)
                  [This was the 1st time there was a
                  price difference between the
                  semifinals ($6 each), conso ($5) and
                  the championship game ($7) tickets]

                  1982 $25.00 (Providence Civic Center) [semis: $6 each;
                  conso: $5; champ: $8]

                  1986 $36.00 (Providence Civic Center)

                  1988 $33.00 (Olympic Center, Lake Placid)

                  1991 $75.00 (St. Paul Civic Center)

                  1993 $60.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

                  1995 $75.00 (Providence Civic Center)

                  1996 $69.50 (Cincinnati Riverfront Coliseum)
                  [semis: $22 each; champ: $25.50]

                  1997 $75.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

                  1998 $90.00 (FleetCenter, Boston) [semis: $25 each;
                  champ: $40]

                  1999 $90.00 (Arrowhead Pond, Anaheim) [semis: $27.50 each;
                  champ: $35]

                  2000 $110.00 (Providence Civic Center) [semis: $35 each;
                  champ: $40]

                  2001 $85.00 (Pepsi Arena, Albany) [semis: $25 each;
                  champ: $35]

                  2002 $124.50 (Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul)

                  2003 $120.00 (HSBC Arena, Buffalo)

                  2004 $135.00 (FleetCenter, Boston)

                  2005 $147.00 (Shottenstein Center, Columbus)

                  2006 $150.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

                  2007 $155.00 (Scottrade Center, St. Louis)

                  2008 $164.00 (Pepsi Center, Denver)

                  2009 $177.00 (Verizon Center, Washington, DC)

                  2010 $189.00/ (Ford Field, Detroit)
                  $119.00/$79.00/$40.00

                  2011 ??? (Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul)

                  Still, everything considered, compared to NC$$ FF roundball (not to mention BC$ oblongball) tickets, it's difficult to claim that we don't enjoy bargain prices for our three-game national championship series.
                  LET'S GO BRUNO!

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                  • #24
                    Re: Ticket prices???

                    Originally posted by bruno View Post
                    With the 2010 FF tickets now in hand and the tournament set to begin in less than two weeks, I thought you might be interested to see the historical record of ticket price inflation for the Frozen Four that has taken place over the last 35 years:

                    1976 $13.50 (D. U. Arena, Denver)

                    1980 $24.00 (Providence Civic Center)
                    [This was the 1st time there was a
                    price difference between the
                    semifinals ($6 each), conso ($5) and
                    the championship game ($7) tickets]

                    1982 $25.00 (Providence Civic Center) [semis: $6 each;
                    conso: $5; champ: $8]

                    1986 $36.00 (Providence Civic Center)

                    1988 $33.00 (Olympic Center, Lake Placid)

                    1991 $75.00 (St. Paul Civic Center)

                    1993 $60.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

                    1995 $75.00 (Providence Civic Center)

                    1996 $69.50 (Cincinnati Riverfront Coliseum)
                    [semis: $22 each; champ: $25.50]

                    1997 $75.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

                    1998 $90.00 (FleetCenter, Boston) [semis: $25 each;
                    champ: $40]

                    1999 $90.00 (Arrowhead Pond, Anaheim) [semis: $27.50 each;
                    champ: $35]

                    2000 $110.00 (Providence Civic Center) [semis: $35 each;
                    champ: $40]

                    2001 $85.00 (Pepsi Arena, Albany) [semis: $25 each;
                    champ: $35]

                    2002 $124.50 (Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul)

                    2003 $120.00 (HSBC Arena, Buffalo)

                    2004 $135.00 (FleetCenter, Boston)

                    2005 $147.00 (Shottenstein Center, Columbus)

                    2006 $150.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

                    2007 $155.00 (Scottrade Center, St. Louis)

                    2008 $164.00 (Pepsi Center, Denver)

                    2009 $177.00 (Verizon Center, Washington, DC)

                    2010 $189.00/ (Ford Field, Detroit)
                    $119.00/$79.00/$40.00

                    2011 ??? (Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul)

                    Still, everything considered, compared to NC$$ FF roundball (not to mention BC$ oblongball) tickets, it's difficult to claim that we don't enjoy bargain prices for our three-game national championship series.
                    Notice the HUGE jumps of the prices in the years that the event is held in St Paul. Start saving for next year, if history repeats, it will be very expensive.
                    Last edited by Bertogliat; 03-29-2010, 12:18 PM. Reason: spelling
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                    • #25
                      Re: Ticket prices???

                      Originally posted by RedFreak View Post
                      I was watching some of the basketball this weekend and on one of the games (don't remember which one) the camera pulled back and much of the upper deck of that arena was empty too.
                      I noticed the same thing but you have to realize BBall regionals are in football stadiums. The upper deck in Reliant Stadium was empty.. but there were 40k+ people there. St. Louis looked vacant but it still would have sold out any hockey rink in the country. Most of the time on tv all of those games look packed because they run up and down the court and all the court level seats are PACKED, you don't see the upper decks that often. You also don't see the upper decks that often in hockey regionals... but the ice-level seats have also been empty.

                      Originally posted by bruno View Post
                      Still, everything considered, compared to NC$$ FF roundball (not to mention BC$ oblongball) tickets, it's difficult to claim that we don't enjoy bargain prices for our three-game national championship series.
                      It's not FF ticket prices that I (we?) have a problem with though. 180+ for the national championship and two semifinals of a quasi-major D1 sport is completely reasonable... and they consistently sell out FFs at those prices. But regionals are empty and have CLOSE to the same ticket prices.

                      Would I be wrong to say that the total cost of attending a regional this year was probably higher than attending the Frozen Four?
                      People are talking about paying 150+ for regionals which is much less than what I could go grab Ford Field tickets for right now. They lowered the FF prices to try to sell out the stadium... why are they so stupid they don't do the same for regionals?
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                      • #26
                        Re: Ticket prices???

                        Originally posted by bruno View Post
                        With the 2010 FF tickets now in hand and the tournament set to begin in less than two weeks, I thought you might be interested to see the historical record of ticket price inflation for the Frozen Four that has taken place over the last 35 years:

                        1976 $13.50 (D. U. Arena, Denver)

                        1980 $24.00 (Providence Civic Center)
                        [This was the 1st time there was a
                        price difference between the
                        semifinals ($6 each), conso ($5) and
                        the championship game ($7) tickets]

                        1982 $25.00 (Providence Civic Center) [semis: $6 each;
                        conso: $5; champ: $8]

                        1986 $36.00 (Providence Civic Center)

                        1988 $33.00 (Olympic Center, Lake Placid)

                        1991 $75.00 (St. Paul Civic Center)

                        1993 $60.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

                        1995 $75.00 (Providence Civic Center)

                        1996 $69.50 (Cincinnati Riverfront Coliseum)
                        [semis: $22 each; champ: $25.50]

                        1997 $75.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

                        1998 $90.00 (FleetCenter, Boston) [semis: $25 each;
                        champ: $40]

                        1999 $90.00 (Arrowhead Pond, Anaheim) [semis: $27.50 each;
                        champ: $35]

                        2000 $110.00 (Providence Civic Center) [semis: $35 each;
                        champ: $40]

                        2001 $85.00 (Pepsi Arena, Albany) [semis: $25 each;
                        champ: $35]

                        2002 $124.50 (Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul)

                        2003 $120.00 (HSBC Arena, Buffalo)

                        2004 $135.00 (FleetCenter, Boston)

                        2005 $147.00 (Shottenstein Center, Columbus)

                        2006 $150.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

                        2007 $155.00 (Scottrade Center, St. Louis)

                        2008 $164.00 (Pepsi Center, Denver)

                        2009 $177.00 (Verizon Center, Washington, DC)

                        2010 $189.00/ (Ford Field, Detroit)
                        $119.00/$79.00/$40.00

                        2011 ??? (Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul)

                        Still, everything considered, compared to NC$$ FF roundball (not to mention BC$ oblongball) tickets, it's difficult to claim that we don't enjoy bargain prices for our three-game national championship series.
                        these actually aren't much different from the Final Four. FF tickets in '99 were ~$100 at a domed stadium. In '04 they were $134-$175, again in dome. The jump in 2002 for St. PAul also has to do with the excessively low price of 2001. I really dont think ticket prices are of any issue, and the NCAA handled this years FF correctly with tiered pricing. $80 for 2 seats for the whole weekend, albeit a poor seat, for someone who wants to take their kid to see a national championship is pretty good.
                        time to write new history

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                        • #27
                          Re: Ticket prices???

                          Originally posted by bruno View Post
                          With the 2010 FF tickets now in hand and the tournament set to begin in less than two weeks, I thought you might be interested to see the historical record of ticket price inflation for the Frozen Four that has taken place over the last 35 years:

                          1976 $13.50 (D. U. Arena, Denver)

                          1980 $24.00 (Providence Civic Center)
                          [This was the 1st time there was a
                          price difference between the
                          semifinals ($6 each), conso ($5) and
                          the championship game ($7) tickets]

                          1982 $25.00 (Providence Civic Center) [semis: $6 each;
                          conso: $5; champ: $8]

                          1986 $36.00 (Providence Civic Center)

                          1988 $33.00 (Olympic Center, Lake Placid)

                          1991 $75.00 (St. Paul Civic Center)

                          1993 $60.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

                          1995 $75.00 (Providence Civic Center)

                          1996 $69.50 (Cincinnati Riverfront Coliseum)
                          [semis: $22 each; champ: $25.50]

                          1997 $75.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

                          1998 $90.00 (FleetCenter, Boston) [semis: $25 each;
                          champ: $40]

                          1999 $90.00 (Arrowhead Pond, Anaheim) [semis: $27.50 each;
                          champ: $35]

                          2000 $110.00 (Providence Civic Center) [semis: $35 each;
                          champ: $40]

                          2001 $85.00 (Pepsi Arena, Albany) [semis: $25 each;
                          champ: $35]

                          2002 $124.50 (Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul)

                          2003 $120.00 (HSBC Arena, Buffalo)

                          2004 $135.00 (FleetCenter, Boston)

                          2005 $147.00 (Shottenstein Center, Columbus)

                          2006 $150.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

                          2007 $155.00 (Scottrade Center, St. Louis)

                          2008 $164.00 (Pepsi Center, Denver)

                          2009 $177.00 (Verizon Center, Washington, DC)

                          2010 $189.00/ (Ford Field, Detroit)
                          $119.00/$79.00/$40.00

                          2011 ??? (Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul)

                          Still, everything considered, compared to NC$$ FF roundball (not to mention BC$ oblongball) tickets, it's difficult to claim that we don't enjoy bargain prices for our three-game national championship series.
                          That is bunk considering I paid $120 total for the rose bowl in 2007, a BCS bowl nonetheless.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Ticket prices???

                            Originally posted by slurpees View Post
                            these actually aren't much different from the Final Four. FF tickets in '99 were ~$100 at a domed stadium. In '04 they were $134-$175, again in dome. The jump in 2002 for St. PAul also has to do with the excessively low price of 2001. I really dont think ticket prices are of any issue, and the NCAA handled this years FF correctly with tiered pricing. $80 for 2 seats for the whole weekend, albeit a poor seat, for someone who wants to take their kid to see a national championship is pretty good.
                            Be prepared to bring your binoculars. I was at the Culver classic with around row 30 seats and I could barely see the puck. I would be fine with upper bowl tickets in a hockey rink, not in a football stadium.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Ticket prices???

                              Originally posted by RedFreak View Post
                              I think they should focus on maximizing attendance rather than profit. For the good of the sport and the student athletes.
                              The NCAA is a nonprofit... I am still speechless how they kept their nonprofit status for so long.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Ticket prices???

                                Notre Dame did offer the tickets to the Fort Wayne regional at a slight discount for students, as well as for groups of 20 or more. As well, when ticket sales severely lagged in the weeks before the field was placed, Notre Dame season ticket holders (and perhaps others on their various mailing lists) were offered half price tickets that could be purchased for single sessions, an option the NCAA generally instructs regional hosts to hold off on until after the field is announced. You had about 2 weeks to act on that offer. I believe it ended the week the regular season was over.

                                Even with those inducements, the crowds were still smaller than one would have hoped for, 4100 Saturday and 3200 for the regional final. Had Notre Dame made it and the committee found a way to get UM and MU there with them the turnout would have been quite respectable.

                                As it is a lot of factors played into the small crowd in Fort Wayne, as well as the other regionals, the two most obvious being the economy and the ticket prices. One can argue that compared to prices for regular season tickets a lot of fans are paying and the fact these are generally considered much bigger games than any regular season or conference tournament the tickets were not overpriced. The numbers of people in the stands say -- and quite loudly I might add -- otherwise.

                                What happens in the future is anybody's guess. I don't think we're going back to two regionals. God forbid we see a backtracking of the tournament to 12 teams. Remember a year or so ago they were talking of placing the field pretty much geographically and since the committee said very plainly they made the switches among the 3 seeds for "atmosphere" reasons how many of us think that won't come up again? Since this is the NCAA I can't see them seriously considering a drastic reduction in ticket prices.

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