Bracketology and the PairWise Rankings II

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Re: Bracketology and the PairWise Rankings II

I haven't been able to find a scenario in the Pairwise Predictor which can accomplish getting BSU to #5 and either UND/SCSU as #4, or BSU as #6 Wisconsin as #3, any suggestions? Did BSU's chances of getting into St. Paul evaporate when they didn't win CHA Tourney (heard rumor they could've been #4 if so)? Thanks!

Your best bet might be for Cornell to rise to #6, which will send #3 Wisconsin to Albany and Denver to finish #2 overall and get St. Paul. Then #7 Bemidji is in their bracket.

2 - Denver
7 - Bemidji
10 - XXXX
15 - Huntsville/AF

[gfmorris]

Re: Bracketology and the PairWise Rankings II

They can, but they haven't.

2007. UAH.

GFM

[Woods_187]

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I believe last year, BSU was the #16 seed and played the #2 seed Notre Dame in the first round.

Basically, what I was saying is that the NCAA is not locked into the 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, 5-13, etc., seedings. There are other factors that come into play as to where teams end up playing.

2009 NCAA Tournament:

NE Regional (Manchester, NH) #1/#16, #8/#9
#1 Boston U.
#15 Ohio St.
#8 UND
#10 UNH

MW Regional (Grand Rapids, MI) #2/#15, #7/#10
#2 Notre Dame
#16 Bemidji St.
#6 Northeastern
#11 Cornell

W Regional (Minneapolis, MN) #3/#14, #6/#11
#3 Denver
#13 Miami
#7 UMD
#12 Princeton

E Regional (bridgeport, CT) #4/#13, #5/#12
#4 Michigan
#14 Air Force
#5 Yale
#9 Vermont

[Woods_187]

Re: Bracketology and the PairWise Rankings II

Seems like there are some allowances to try keeping regionals as geographically interesting as possible & not strictly sticking to seeding guidelines.

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2009 NCAA Tournament:

NE Regional (Manchester, NH) #1/#16, #8/#9
#1 Boston U.
#15 Ohio St.
#8 UND
#10 UNH

MW Regional (Grand Rapids, MI) #2/#15, #7/#10
#2 Notre Dame
#16 Bemidji St.
#6 Northeastern
#11 Cornell

W Regional (Minneapolis, MN) #3/#14, #6/#11
#3 Denver
#13 Miami
#7 UMD
#12 Princeton

E Regional (bridgeport, CT) #4/#13, #5/#12
#4 Michigan
#14 Air Force
#5 Yale
#9 Vermont

That was screwed up because both UNH and Yale were hosting, and the committee had to avoid conference pairs (Notre Dame/Ohio State, Miami/Michigan).

[J.D.]

Re: Bracketology and the PairWise Rankings II

This has probably been mentioned, but is there a scenario in which UMD gets in?

[jcarter7669]

Re: Bracketology and the PairWise Rankings II

This has probably been mentioned, but is there a scenario in which UMD gets in?

Nope.

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This has probably been mentioned, but is there a scenario in which UMD gets in?

CCHA Semifinal #2: Ferris State defeats Northern Michigan
CCHA Semifinal #1: Miami defeats Michigan
CCHA Championship game: Miami defeats Ferris State
CCHA Consolation game: Michigan defeats Northern Michigan
ECAC Semifinal #2: St. Lawrence defeats Union
ECAC Semifinal #1: Cornell defeats Brown
ECAC Championship game: Cornell defeats St. Lawrence
ECAC Consolation game: Brown defeats Union
Hockey East Semifinal #2: Boston University defeats Maine
Hockey East Semifinal #1: Boston College defeats Vermont
Hockey East Championship game: Boston College defeats Boston University
WCHA Semifinal #2: St. Cloud State defeats Wisconsin
WCHA Semifinal #1: Denver defeats North Dakota
WCHA Championship game: Denver defeats St. Cloud State
WCHA Consolation game: North Dakota defeats Wisconsin
Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #2: Sacred Heart defeats Air Force
Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #1: RIT defeats Canisius
Atlantic Hockey Championship game: Sacred Heart defeats RIT

Edit: The key game is this afternoon's BC/UVM tilt. A BC win seems to put Vermont behind UMD...then it's just a matter of the autobids...and the NMU/Ferris loser must also lose the third place game.

[jcarter7669]

Re: Bracketology and the PairWise Rankings II

CCHA Semifinal #2: Ferris State defeats Northern Michigan
CCHA Semifinal #1: Miami defeats Michigan
CCHA Championship game: Miami defeats Ferris State
CCHA Consolation game: Michigan defeats Northern Michigan
ECAC Semifinal #2: St. Lawrence defeats Union
ECAC Semifinal #1: Cornell defeats Brown
ECAC Championship game: Cornell defeats St. Lawrence
ECAC Consolation game: Brown defeats Union
Hockey East Semifinal #2: Boston University defeats Maine
Hockey East Semifinal #1: Boston College defeats Vermont
Hockey East Championship game: Boston College defeats Boston University
WCHA Semifinal #2: St. Cloud State defeats Wisconsin
WCHA Semifinal #1: Denver defeats North Dakota
WCHA Championship game: Denver defeats St. Cloud State
WCHA Consolation game: North Dakota defeats Wisconsin
Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #2: Sacred Heart defeats Air Force
Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #1: RIT defeats Canisius
Atlantic Hockey Championship game: Sacred Heart defeats RIT

Edit: The key game is this afternoon's BC/UVM tilt. A BC win seems to put Vermont behind UMD...then it's just a matter of the autobids...and the NMU/Ferris loser must also lose the third place game.

Actually the key game is the SH - RIT game. If UVM loses and RIT wins UMD is out and still behind UVM.

[cF[Authentic]]

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What is the second tie breaker if two teams are tied have the same RPI.

I managed to get UND, St. Cloud and BC all tied at 4th. However, UND and St. Cloud would have the same RPI at .5562. Any idea on what the next tie-breaker is? Would it be head-to-head, which UND wins in my scenario?

[ScoobyFanClub]

Re: Bracketology and the PairWise Rankings II

This has probably been mentioned, but is there a scenario in which UMD gets in?

Yes there is -

http://blog.collegehockeynews.com/20...ise-live-blog/

[moose97]

Re: Bracketology and the PairWise Rankings II

What is the second tie breaker if two teams are tied have the same RPI.

I managed to get UND, St. Cloud and BC all tied at 4th. However, UND and St. Cloud would have the same RPI at .5562. Any idea on what the next tie-breaker is? Would it be head-to-head, which UND wins in my scenario?

RPI goes beyond four decimal places you know...

[Eaglefan06]

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This is the scenario I am personally hoping for this weekend:

HEA
HE Semi #1: BC
HE Semi #2: BU
HE Final: BC

CCHA
CCHA Semi #1: Ferris
CCHA Semi #2: Miami
CCHA Final: Miami
CCHA Consolation: Michigan

ECAC
ECAC Semi #1: Cornell
ECAC Semi #2: Union
ECAC Final: Cornell
ECAC Consolation: Brown

WCHA
Final Five Play-in: UND
Final Five Semi #1: St. Cloud
Final Five Semi #2: Denver
Final Five Final: Denver
Final Five Consolation: Wisconsin

AHA
AHA Semi #2: RIT
AHA Semi #1: Sacred Heart
AHA Final: RIT

Gives you this for PWR:
1. Miami
2. Denver
3. Wisconsin
4. Boston College
5. St. Cloud
6. North Dakota
7. Cornell
8. Bemidji State
9. Ferris State
10. Yale
11. Alaska
12. New Hampshire
13t. Northern Michigan
13t. Vermont
25. RIT
— Alabama-Huntsville

2 for 2 so far. Keep it up WCHA!

[Priceless]

Re: Bracketology and the PairWise Rankings II

RIT advances.
Cornell eliminates Brown. They're in.
The winner of the NMU/Ferris game is in.

[Priceless]

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NMU wins in OT. They're in.
Ferris needs the autobids to be Cornell, Miami and BC...