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  • Federal League
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    How funny/awesome would it be if Huntsville beat both Miami and Michigan?

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  • HuskySieve
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    Maybe they felt like Miami couldn't carry attendence there?

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  • Federal League
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    Michigan gets moved to Ft. Wayne to help attendance. First wrinkle.

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    I'm shocked that Michigan is in Fort Wayne.

    Really.

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  • kdaddy
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    Originally posted by burgie12 View Post
    The DIY Rankings on TBRW are awesome. I switched the Brown-Yale result on Sunday and then, for the final weekend in Albany, I did exactly what you wanted: Cornell over Union, St. Lawrence over Yale, with Cornell winning the ECAC and Union winning the consolation game.

    Yale's ranking in the Pairwise switched from 9 to 10 (they got switched with NMU).
    Wow..that's a fun tool. I changed just 2 UVM scores. A loss to MC to a win and a loss to UNH to a win (they were up in the unh game i think then lost it by giving up 2) and they went from 14 to 6.. Shows you what a loss here and there do..

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  • burgie12
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    Originally posted by yalehockeyfan View Post
    A REQUEST:
    We've been having a little debate about how much LOSING to Brown HELPED Yale in overall seeding. Could someone please run the Pairwise with Yale making the ECAC tournament and then losing in quarters to St. Lawrence and then in consolation game to Union. What would their ranking be? Would they still even be in tournament? Lots of interesting debate to be had there.....
    The DIY Rankings on TBRW are awesome. I switched the Brown-Yale result on Sunday and then, for the final weekend in Albany, I did exactly what you wanted: Cornell over Union, St. Lawrence over Yale, with Cornell winning the ECAC and Union winning the consolation game.

    Yale's ranking in the Pairwise switched from 9 to 10 (they got switched with NMU).

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  • Onion Man
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    Re: Bracketology and the PairWise Rankings II

    Originally posted by dggoddard View Post
    The "We Gotta Get Michigan To Detroit" Bracket...

    Michigan is 2-0-0 in the NCAA against DU. DU has been playing poorly in the XCEL lately.

    St. Paul
    RIT vs. Denver
    Michigan vs. Cornell

    Fort Wayne
    Alabama-Huntsville vs. Miami
    Yale vs. Bemidji State

    Albany
    Vermont vs. Wisconsin
    Northern Michigan vs. St. Cloud State

    Worcester

    Alaska vs. Boston College
    New Hampshire vs. North Dakota
    That looks more like the "We Gotta Get Miami to Detroit" bracket to me.

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  • Puck Swami
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    Originally posted by dggoddard View Post
    The "We Gotta Get Michigan To Detroit" Bracket...

    Michigan is 2-0-0 in the NCAA against DU. DU has been playing poorly in the XCEL lately.

    St. Paul
    RIT vs. Denver
    Michigan vs. Cornell

    Fort Wayne
    Alabama-Huntsville vs. Miami
    Yale vs. Bemidji State

    Albany
    Vermont vs. Wisconsin
    Northern Michigan vs. St. Cloud State

    Worcester

    Alaska vs. Boston College
    New Hampshire vs. North Dakota

    Nightmare for Denver. God no...

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  • Red Cloud
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    Re: Bracketology and the PairWise Rankings II

    Originally posted by yalehockeyfan View Post
    A REQUEST:
    We've been having a little debate about how much LOSING to Brown HELPED Yale in overall seeding. Could someone please run the Pairwise with Yale making the ECAC tournament and then losing in quarters to St. Lawrence and then in consolation game to Union. What would their ranking be? Would they still even be in tournament? Lots of interesting debate to be had there.....
    The argument about Yale losing early helping their seeding isn't as strong as it is in the other major conferences. That's because by and large, late in most conference tournaments, you're usually smack dab up against a number of TUCs. Losing there is sometimes worse than losing earlier to a non-TUC. In the ECAC it's not as prevalent. Assuming that the situation you described had been real, the only fallout Yale would have potentially taken from that would be the Union loss, since Union was a TUC and St. Lawrence wasn't. Often, other teams risk a pair of TUC losses in the conference championship round - see also Ferris State - that jeopardizes their position much more. Would Yale have potentially slipped? Yeah, every TUC loss hurts, especially late in the season when you don't have any more opportunities to make it up down the road. Would it have been disastrous? Hard to say. Probably not given the way everything else shook out.

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  • yalehockeyfan
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    Would be quite unfair to Yale to swap them. Last year Yale as #5 seed overall ended up playing Vermont who was #9 overall due to avoiding intraconference matchups. Lets hope they aren't given the same fate. Then again, I can drive to Worcester.

    A REQUEST:
    We've been having a little debate about how much LOSING to Brown HELPED Yale in overall seeding. Could someone please run the Pairwise with Yale making the ECAC tournament and then losing in quarters to St. Lawrence and then in consolation game to Union. What would their ranking be? Would they still even be in tournament? Lots of interesting debate to be had there.....

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  • Red Cloud
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    Originally posted by AFHockeyFan View Post
    Saint Paul (33)
    3) Wisconsin
    6) St. Cloud
    10) UNM
    14) VT
    When did the New Mexico Lobos get a hockey team?

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  • AFHockeyFan
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    Originally posted by dggoddard View Post
    The "We Gotta Get Michigan To Detroit" Bracket...
    First we gotta get Michigan to Fort Wayne. That's the only regional with attendance issues right now. My fix is to get creative with the 3-seeds:

    Fort Wayne (37)
    1) Miami
    8) Bemidji
    12) Michigan
    16) UAH

    Albany (35)
    2) Denver
    7) Cornell
    11) UNH
    15) RIT

    Saint Paul (33)
    3) Wisconsin
    6) St. Cloud
    10) UNM
    14) VT

    Worcester (31)
    4) BC
    5) UND
    9) Yale
    13) AK

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  • dggoddard
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    Originally posted by RITProf View Post
    It'd be a real bummer if they lost to RIT then!
    Refs will have Michigan's back.

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  • RITProf
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    Re: Bracketology and the PairWise Rankings II

    Originally posted by dggoddard View Post
    The "We Gotta Get Michigan To Detroit" Bracket...

    Michigan is 2-0-0 in the NCAA against DU. DU has been playing poorly in the XCEL lately.

    St. Paul
    RIT vs. Denver
    Michigan vs. Cornell
    It'd be a real bummer if they lost to RIT then!

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  • dggoddard
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    The "We Gotta Get Michigan To Detroit" Bracket...

    Michigan is 2-0-0 in the NCAA against DU. DU has been playing poorly in the XCEL lately.

    St. Paul
    RIT vs. Denver
    Michigan vs. Cornell

    Fort Wayne
    Alabama-Huntsville vs. Miami
    Yale vs. Bemidji State

    Albany
    Vermont vs. Wisconsin
    Northern Michigan vs. St. Cloud State

    Worcester

    Alaska vs. Boston College
    New Hampshire vs. North Dakota

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