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  • aallenpollreisz
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    That's what I assumed, too. I recall hearing from somewhere that Wisconsin cancelled the remainder of their chunk of the College Hockey Showcase contract, ergo, the entire thing's wrecked and we're currently SOL for Thanksgiving weekend.

    The upcoming schedule thread says otherwise, though.

    How about this... if I see Comley at the baseball game today at Kobs, I'll ask him.

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  • Yager
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    What have you guys heard about the College Hockey Showcase with Mich, Minn, and Wisc? I have a feeling that it isn't happening this year. Wisconsin has been officially announced as playing in the Icebreaker tourny, UMass fans were told at a hockey fan function that they'd be going to Wisconsin to play, and the coach of UAH said in an interview that they are playing at Wisconsin this year. That takes up all of their 4 non-cons plus the 2 for going to UAA this year. Not to mention that the only way it seems that the showcase would work is if it were a Friday/Sunday series which would be BS for the Michigan teams. Has anyone actually heard that the series is happening this year even though it was supposed to be the final time this year?

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  • gomsuman
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    Originally posted by owslachief View Post
    I'm disappointed that this may not be the breakout year I anticipated, say, 2 weeks ago, but there's no reason 2010/11 can't be a more successful campaign than that last. MSU may start out slow in 2010, but the finish will be far more satisfactory.
    Agreed we have a ton of kids who could potentially pick up the slack, namely Nill, Golembiewski (sorry for spelling), Perlini, Chelios, Gazely, Forfar, Walrod, Leveille and Grant. That is pretty much the whole team it seems but all those guys could step up next year and play much bigger roles, which will be needed.

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  • owslachief
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    Originally posted by Nevergoodenough View Post
    At about GLI time, pretty much everyone who had their blinders hanging in the closet instead of wearing them "knew" that Petry was going to be gone, and pretty much figured that Tropp would leave at the end of the season. Rowe started to be talked about as a prospect to go early in the late January time-frame, so agreement would be that he came as a bit of a surprise, but not a HUGE surprise. Now, if anyone else would leave early, I think they would be considered a surprise and a concern.

    Now, if Tropp stays, then that would be a surprise, and a good one at that.
    I suppose I was entirely too much the optimist ... and in regard to Petry and Tropp was feeling pretty good about things long about early January. Which is why the Rowe deal felt like a sucker-punch.

    However, it's important for sanity's sake to look at the big picture - and as things stand we're better-positioned than we are in the summer of 2008. For several reasons, not the least of which are A better sense of team unity, an influx of proven goal scorers (and leaders - two are captains of their junior teams), and a more mature group.

    So while Rowe's departure makes a BIG impact and IMHO the most damaging loss we'll have suffered, others will pick up the slack. I believe we've got some players who will at last find their potential.

    I'm disappointed that this may not be the breakout year I anticipated, say, 2 weeks ago, but there's no reason 2010/11 can't be a more successful campaign than that last. MSU may start out slow in 2010, but the finish will be far more satisfactory.
    Last edited by owslachief; 05-10-2010, 10:45 AM.

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  • UMICHhockeyRULZ
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    Originally posted by rathamon View Post
    GOGO I usually don't respond but like other here I can't figure out your obsesion against Leveille. I enjoy watching him play and have seen him developing and you obviously don't understand hockey or player development. Leveille came into our program just having turned 18 under sized with loads of offensive potential (why he was drafted as a first round pick POTENTIAL). His first year showed the work he needed in the defensive side of his game and this year he concentrated on improving that. That was obviously the area that Comley concentrated on for him. He lead the team in plus minus (+16) and was 5th in points while gettting very little PP time. From minus 19 to plus 16 in one year is huge and don't let the significance of a skilled player learning how to play in his own end delude you into beleiving his stock to Atlanta as dropping. Does he need to get stronger of course but lets not forget he is still only 19 and will probably still be one of the youngest players even after this years recruits come in and he is going to be a Junior. My prediction is Leveille puts both the offensive and Comely'e defensive teaching together and has at least a 20G 20A season for us and Atlanta signs him at the end of our season. Leveille's scoring chances were numerous this year but he lacked the strength to finish, I'm sure this will be improved by October. Let's also not forget he sees the ice very well and part of Rowe's success came from playing with Leveille as well. When Leveille was not playing on that line neither Rowe or Gazley were as effective. If after this season I'm wrong I will give you your due and agree the ice capades are the place for him to go, but I'm not holding my breath on that one and you should give it a rest.
    Oh wow, sparty on sparty violence...

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  • rathamon
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    Originally posted by GOGO View Post
    Sorry Owl, but you and I don't agree. I can tell you that I am just a little closer to the scene than you. This isn't a big secret.
    GOGO I usually don't respond but like other here I can't figure out your obsesion against Leveille. I enjoy watching him play and have seen him developing and you obviously don't understand hockey or player development. Leveille came into our program just having turned 18 under sized with loads of offensive potential (why he was drafted as a first round pick POTENTIAL). His first year showed the work he needed in the defensive side of his game and this year he concentrated on improving that. That was obviously the area that Comley concentrated on for him. He lead the team in plus minus (+16) and was 5th in points while gettting very little PP time. From minus 19 to plus 16 in one year is huge and don't let the significance of a skilled player learning how to play in his own end delude you into beleiving his stock to Atlanta as dropping. Does he need to get stronger of course but lets not forget he is still only 19 and will probably still be one of the youngest players even after this years recruits come in and he is going to be a Junior. My prediction is Leveille puts both the offensive and Comely'e defensive teaching together and has at least a 20G 20A season for us and Atlanta signs him at the end of our season. Leveille's scoring chances were numerous this year but he lacked the strength to finish, I'm sure this will be improved by October. Let's also not forget he sees the ice very well and part of Rowe's success came from playing with Leveille as well. When Leveille was not playing on that line neither Rowe or Gazley were as effective. If after this season I'm wrong I will give you your due and agree the ice capades are the place for him to go, but I'm not holding my breath on that one and you should give it a rest.

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  • Nevergoodenough
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    Originally posted by Pirateasaurus View Post
    But yeah, if Tropp bolts then arguably our 3 most important players for next season will have left. Very, very disappointing as I had pegged next year's roster as possibly the best that Comley will have had to work with since he has been here at msu, assuming that at least Rowe and Tropp would stay. I didn't think Tropp was quite ready and Rowe i never saw leaving. Petry was pretty expected.


    I think we will be a good, solid team; however, I am afraid that we will have lost 1 or 2 too many key components to really do damage.
    At about GLI time, pretty much everyone who had their blinders hanging in the closet instead of wearing them "knew" that Petry was going to be gone, and pretty much figured that Tropp would leave at the end of the season. Rowe started to be talked about as a prospect to go early in the late January time-frame, so agreement would be that he came as a bit of a surprise, but not a HUGE surprise. Now, if anyone else would leave early, I think they would be considered a surprise and a concern.

    Now, if Tropp stays, then that would be a surprise, and a good one at that.

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  • Pirateasaurus
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    Originally posted by GOGO View Post
    Don't have to worry about Leveille bolting to Atlanta. They are no longer interested. Perhaps the Ice Capades would be a better destination. Leveille's problems don't start with his weight, they stem from the fact that perimeter players either need to put up great numbers or they are useless. Sorry, but there are a lot of red faces in Atlanta over this one.
    Did he steal your girlfriend or something?



    But yeah, if Tropp bolts then arguably our 3 most important players for next season will have left. Very, very disappointing as I had pegged next year's roster as possibly the best that Comley will have had to work with since he has been here at msu, assuming that at least Rowe and Tropp would stay. I didn't think Tropp was quite ready and Rowe i never saw leaving. Petry was pretty expected.


    I think we will be a good, solid team; however, I am afraid that we will have lost 1 or 2 too many key components to really do damage.

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  • GOGO
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    Sorry Owl, but you and I don't agree. I can tell you that I am just a little closer to the scene than you. This isn't a big secret.

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  • owslachief
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    Originally posted by GOGO View Post
    Don't have to worry about Leveille bolting to Atlanta. They are no longer interested. Perhaps the Ice Capades would be a better destination. Leveille's problems don't start with his weight, they stem from the fact that perimeter players either need to put up great numbers or they are useless. Sorry, but there are a lot of red faces in Atlanta over this one.
    Perimeter players? You need to let grownups play here.

    I know YOU've had it in for him for a few months ... this borders on obsession.

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  • Arwen22266
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    Originally posted by GOGO View Post
    Don't have to worry about Leveille bolting to Atlanta. They are no longer interested. Perhaps the Ice Capades would be a better destination. Leveille's problems don't start with his weight, they stem from the fact that perimeter players either need to put up great numbers or they are useless. Sorry, but there are a lot of red faces in Atlanta over this one.
    Care to provide some proof?

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  • GOGO
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    Don't have to worry about Leveille bolting to Atlanta. They are no longer interested. Perhaps the Ice Capades would be a better destination. Leveille's problems don't start with his weight, they stem from the fact that perimeter players either need to put up great numbers or they are useless. Sorry, but there are a lot of red faces in Atlanta over this one.

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  • UMICHhockeyRULZ
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    Originally posted by aallenpollreisz View Post
    Well, Comley's haters can rejoice, as this one we can confirm he didn't see coming. Extremely tough break for us, as this will totally jumble our top lines.

    Comley's going to have to do some digging to find a serviceable replacement, as the timing of this signing is incredibly, incredibly bad for us. Nonetheless, good luck to Rowe. Kid was easily one of my favorite Spartans, and his three years here were excellent.

    If Tropp bolts come draft time, we will be in a world of hurt. Good luck trying to find a replacement for Tropp's output in late June.
    We go through this pretty much every August. Relax, the sun will still rise tomorrow.

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  • aallenpollreisz
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    Originally posted by STATEdude3 View Post
    Just a bit...
    I'm not mashing the bright, red, blinking button yet, but I'm clenching my fist in preparation to.

    Where's the fast forward button on the off-season? Or, better yet, where's the reset button?

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  • aallenpollreisz
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    Originally posted by owslachief View Post
    And ??
    That's practically a direct quote. Didn't give a timetable as to when, but he said he expected it.

    From all of the other stuff I've heard, if he does depart, it'll be near draft time.

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