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  • Originally posted by Drew S. View Post

    Sorry if my post upset you. It’s a results business and the regular season doesn’t count for very much. Very few coaches are going to survive back to back playoff meltdowns. I’m sure Monty will be okay regardless of what happens.
    How is it a playoff meltdown when Florida is the favored team and a top forward, Marchand, was knocked out of the game/s??? Anyone with half a brain would see that the Bruins skaters are light for a contender and they are in games due to the goaltending. I don’t think anyone would pick the Bruins to win this series heading into it. Monty shouldn’t be on any hot seat. He would be hired immediately by another team if the Bruins were stupid enough to fire him.

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    • Originally posted by Sparkee View Post

      How is it a playoff meltdown when Florida is the favored team and a top forward, Marchand, was knocked out of the game/s??? Anyone with half a brain would see that the Bruins skaters are light for a contender and they are in games due to the goaltending. I don’t think anyone would pick the Bruins to win this series heading into it. Monty shouldn’t be on any hot seat. He would be hired immediately by another team if the Bruins were stupid enough to fire him.
      Montgomery has 1 year left on his deal with Boston...B's owner Jacob's won't fire Montgomery. Plus there are job openings out there...one that could have interested Montgomery if he got canned was St.Louis, which has been filled by the interim when Berube was axed.
      Last edited by 9twenty; 05-13-2024, 10:35 AM.

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      • Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
        Sorry if my post upset you. It's a results business and the regular season doesn't count for very much. Very few coaches are going to survive back to back playoff meltdowns. I'm sure Monty will be okay regardless of what happens.
        As usual, Drew points out the semi-obvious, and some folks yelp about how crazy-town his take is. Listen, I'm not a Bruins' fan, but if you've paid any attention to the B's over the last 50 years of Jacobs/Delaware North ownership, you know that coaches don't tend to stick around for very long with the B's. General managers and presidents, however, tend to be untouchable - at least until they screw up multiple times. Guys like Sweeney and (especially) Neely are so firmly entrenched, there is never a question who is gonna take the hit if/when someone has to walk the plank. That's eventually (sadly) gonna be Monty. Whether it will be this offseason, or next, I'll be surprised if it doesn't happen.

        Would he deserve to be the one to take the fall? Heck no. The B's are overperforming under Monty (at least in the RS), and in a year or two, they could still be overperforming ... but this is a franchise that's slowly moving further and further away from a Cup contender. Most of that is down to Sweeney doing a lousy job in the draft the better part of the last 10 years. Monty has proven to be an exceptional hire by the B's, especially for Sweeney, as it has diverted attention from their crumbling NHL roster, and the barren farm system below it. Monty might be able to get them another 100 point season next year, and 90 points the season after (if extended) and it won't change the fact that the B's are headed for a spell of mediocrity for what will likely be the rest of this decade. That won't be Monty's fault, but the guys who hired Monty can buy another few years in their jobs if they scapegoat Monty for his teams' "underperforming" in the playoffs. When the truth is, they're not that good to begin with, and it is Monty and his staff who've gotten them to overperform.

        Sweeney had a job to do this past offseason to keep the B's competitive in the postseason. What did he do? He gave away Taylor Hall for cap reasons, botched the Bertuzzi re-signing, and instead brought in over-the-hill guys like Milan "The Defendant" Lucic and JvR, who was never a B's style player to begin with even in his prime a half decade or so ago. Sweeney's chair should be the hottest one. But the way things work in Bruins Land, they will let Cup-winning coaches like Claude Julien and Butch Cassidy go, before their Harvard GM is called on the carpet for how he's let the franchise down. The B's could (and arguably should) have had a dynasty last decade, with at least 3 Cups, but instead they ended up with one (1), which makes them the fluky equivalent of the St. Louis Blues, who ironically beat them in 7 games for the 2019 Cup.

        So if history is a guide, Monty's seat is hot as soon as the B's crash out of the playoffs. He'd be gone already if they'd choked it up to the TML last series. It's not necessarily a Monty thing, though. It IS a B's thing, for sure.

        For the record ... if Monty gets fired, and the Red Wings get off to a slow start next season, I'd love to see Yzerman giving Monty a call to show his stuff in the regular season. The playoffs can be learned, if you are given the ammo. Yzerman has assembled lots of future ammo, and his teams have been advancing 10 points per season lately. Monty might end up "doing a Cassidy" and passing the B's on their way down ...
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        • Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post

          As usual, Drew points out the semi-obvious, and some folks yelp about how crazy-town his take is. Listen, I'm not a Bruins' fan, but if you've paid any attention to the B's over the last 50 years of Jacobs/Delaware North ownership, you know that coaches don't tend to stick around for very long with the B's. General managers and presidents, however, tend to be untouchable - at least until they screw up multiple times. Guys like Sweeney and (especially) Neely are so firmly entrenched, there is never a question who is gonna take the hit if/when someone has to walk the plank. That's eventually (sadly) gonna be Monty. Whether it will be this offseason, or next, I'll be surprised if it doesn't happen.

          Would he deserve to be the one to take the fall? Heck no. The B's are overperforming under Monty (at least in the RS), and in a year or two, they could still be overperforming ... but this is a franchise that's slowly moving further and further away from a Cup contender. Most of that is down to Sweeney doing a lousy job in the draft the better part of the last 10 years. Monty has proven to be an exceptional hire by the B's, especially for Sweeney, as it has diverted attention from their crumbling NHL roster, and the barren farm system below it. Monty might be able to get them another 100 point season next year, and 90 points the season after (if extended) and it won't change the fact that the B's are headed for a spell of mediocrity for what will likely be the rest of this decade. That won't be Monty's fault, but the guys who hired Monty can buy another few years in their jobs if they scapegoat Monty for his teams' "underperforming" in the playoffs. When the truth is, they're not that good to begin with, and it is Monty and his staff who've gotten them to overperform.

          Sweeney had a job to do this past offseason to keep the B's competitive in the postseason. What did he do? He gave away Taylor Hall for cap reasons, botched the Bertuzzi re-signing, and instead brought in over-the-hill guys like Milan "The Defendant" Lucic and JvR, who was never a B's style player to begin with even in his prime a half decade or so ago. Sweeney's chair should be the hottest one. But the way things work in Bruins Land, they will let Cup-winning coaches like Claude Julien and Butch Cassidy go, before their Harvard GM is called on the carpet for how he's let the franchise down. The B's could (and arguably should) have had a dynasty last decade, with at least 3 Cups, but instead they ended up with one (1), which makes them the fluky equivalent of the St. Louis Blues, who ironically beat them in 7 games for the 2019 Cup.

          So if history is a guide, Monty's seat is hot as soon as the B's crash out of the playoffs. He'd be gone already if they'd choked it up to the TML last series. It's not necessarily a Monty thing, though. It IS a B's thing, for sure.

          For the record ... if Monty gets fired, and the Red Wings get off to a slow start next season, I'd love to see Yzerman giving Monty a call to show his stuff in the regular season. The playoffs can be learned, if you are given the ammo. Yzerman has assembled lots of future ammo, and his teams have been advancing 10 points per season lately. Monty might end up "doing a Cassidy" and passing the B's on their way down ...
          Another keep your eye on Swayman's upcoming contract...signing him is a top priority and unloading Ullmark also...but keep your eye on the team that has moved to Utah(Arizona Coyotes)...there owner is like the owner from Vegas...he wants to win and willing to spend...don't be surprised if they make a offer sheet to Swayman...there loaded with draft picks over the next 3 years...could happen if management is scared off by the offer sheet price....

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          • Originally posted by Drew S. View Post

            Sorry if my post upset you. It’s a results business and the regular season doesn’t count for very much. Very few coaches are going to survive back to back playoff meltdowns. I’m sure Monty will be okay regardless of what happens.
            It didn't upset me, you seem to have your feelings hurt hence why you are projecting this crap onto me. How do you even consider this year a meltdown, it's not even in the same category as last year. Geekie is on your PP unit that's all you need to know.

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            • Originally posted by 9twenty View Post

              Another keep your eye on Swayman's upcoming contract...signing him is a top priority and unloading Ullmark also...but keep your eye on the team that has moved to Utah(Arizona Coyotes)...there owner is like the owner from Vegas...he wants to win and willing to spend...don't be surprised if they make a offer sheet to Swayman...there loaded with draft picks over the next 3 years...could happen if management is scared off by the offer sheet price....
              Ullmarks NMC drops from 16 to 15 teams next year.

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              • Originally posted by grooverider View Post

                Ullmarks NMC drops from 16 to 15 teams next year.
                He will get dealt before the draft...but with Swayman needing a deal...he is positioned well(Swayman)to get a great deal from Boston...but Utah has the picks and a Owner that what's to win out of the gates in Utah...they could send a offer sheet towards Swayman...still think Swayman will be in Boston long term...but stranger things have happened.

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                • Originally posted by 9twenty View Post
                  He will get dealt before the draft...but with Swayman needing a deal...he is positioned well(Swayman)to get a great deal from Boston...but Utah has the picks and a Owner that what's to win out of the gates in Utah...they could send a offer sheet towards Swayman...still think Swayman will be in Boston long term...but stranger things have happened.
                  If Sweeney somehow loses Swayman, that would be devastating to the future of the franchise. I assume he is an RFA next time up? Sounds like he hasn't been happy being forced to go to arbitration in the past, so you never know. But I'm guessing no one else is gonna be able to offer him what the B's can offer him. Even Sweeney can't F that one up ... but sure, someone like Utah could really throw a wrench into the B's cap management plans.
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                  • Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post

                    If Sweeney somehow loses Swayman, that would be devastating to the future of the franchise. I assume he is an RFA next time up? Sounds like he hasn't been happy being forced to go to arbitration in the past, so you never know. But I'm guessing no one else is gonna be able to offer him what the B's can offer him. Even Sweeney can't F that one up ... but sure, someone like Utah could really throw a wrench into the B's cap management plans.
                    Right...they may not get Swayman thru offer sheet but they could make Swayman's deal higher then what GM Sweeney-Owner Jacobs expected paying out. Only thing in play is that Swayman likes playing in Boston...but as you said the Arbitration process at times leaves a somewhat sour taste in the player...team vs. player can make for bitter negotiations.

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                    • Originally posted by 9twenty View Post

                      Right...they may not get Swayman thru offer sheet but they could make Swayman's deal higher then what GM Sweeney-Owner Jacobs expected paying out. Only thing in play is that Swayman likes playing in Boston...but as you said the Arbitration process at times leaves a somewhat sour taste in the player...team vs. player can make for bitter negotiations.
                      It would not shock me at all if Swayman leaves after next season. I think they really ****ed him off last year during arbitration and it’s obvious as time goes on the bruins will be less competitive.
                      Originally posted by BobbyBrady
                      Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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                      • Portal: BU's Wilmer to Quinnipiac

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                        • Originally posted by 9twenty View Post
                          Portal: BU's Wilmer to Quinnipiac
                          Thanks, Scratch another off the list. Today is the last day players can enter the portal. I noticed Merrimack had a defensemen, Frank Djuracevic, that seems decent enter the portal.

                          Here is an updated watch list of potentially solid additions…

                          Forwards
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                          Cade Nielsen - LC - 3.75 - 0.78
                          Liam Valente - LW - 3.75 - 0.77
                          Evan Werner - RC - 4.0 - (?)
                          Nick Rheaume - LC - 3.75 - (?)

                          Defense
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                          Arvils Bergmanis - LD - (?) - 0.71
                          Frank Djurecevic - RD - 3.75 - (?)
                          Ben Brunette - LD - 4.0 - (-0.04)

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                          • Nielsen to Mich Tech

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                            • Portal: Androlewicz to Stonehill

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                              • Enter the portal to go to Stonehill?? Yikes! Following year: beer league.
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