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  • Originally posted by Wicked Slappaahs View Post
    I believe we've reached the low point in my lifetime...and I take no pleasure in admitting this.
    It is not the worst RPI team I have seen (Unfortunately, both Smith and Appert have coached contenders for that), but it is up there for the most disappointing season in memory. There was a disconnect on the ice this year that felt like a major departure from the last few years, even for those of us highlighting any positive steps. Even considering the team faced some injury issues, it is hard to find a silver lining.

    Given the returning players and some young players that will have good careers, it was reasonable to expect a better performance this year, especially during the league season. With two games left, RPI cannot match last year's league win total, even with a sweep on the road.

    I'll be out in Ithaca to catch the Cornell game, nonetheless. I hope the team finds the spark to finish on a high.
    Last edited by DavidNardolillo; 02-25-2024, 07:07 PM.

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    • Union is officially getting a new rink, but they will be renters. Report suggests $800k/year for 25 years: https://www.timesunion.com/news/arti...y-18688965.php

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      • I made the mistake of looking at some ECAC team stats yesterday....and was shocked by how many categories Union was near the top of the league (I'll spare you the details...).
        This was achieved by a second year head coach who inherited a rather depleted roster. Point being, in a very short period of time they have righted their ship following Mongo's exit....
        ""Ralph is the Chuck Norris of this board. Ralph doesnt sleep he just waits." - fishcore12

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        • Originally posted by Wicked Slappaahs View Post
          I made the mistake of looking at some ECAC team stats yesterday....and was shocked by how many categories Union was near the top of the league (I'll spare you the details...).
          This was achieved by a second year head coach who inherited a rather depleted roster. Point being, in a very short period of time they have righted their ship following Mongo's exit....
          Colgate also has to be very happy with their first year head coach, heading into the last weekend of regular season in 3rd place. Dartmouth has also had a major turn around from last season.

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          • Originally posted by Wicked Slappaahs View Post
            I made the mistake of looking at some ECAC team stats yesterday....and was shocked by how many categories Union was near the top of the league (I'll spare you the details...).
            This was achieved by a second year head coach who inherited a rather depleted roster. Point being, in a very short period of time they have righted their ship following Mongo's exit....
            I just went down that rabbit hole. Union has outscored RPI 27-14 since Hauge took over.
            "Rick not want to be know as tough guy, Rick want to be known as team guy" Rick "Mongo" Bennett

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            • The Union news is interesting. For one thing, it clearly forces RPIs hand as far as their own renovations go. It is a chance for Dr Bowers and Schmidt to flex their commitment to hockey and counter Union's move. Can I play devil's advocate? I don't think this is as great of a move for their hockey as it seems. Almost no college hockey teams play off campus, I think there is a reason for that. It is not football and basketball, students are generally not traveling to get to a college hockey game. Also, part of what makes college hockey rinks cool is that many are so personalized, and when you are a renter in a space it will never truly be yours. Look at Lynah, Agganis, Alfond. If Messa was architecturally unsound and an upgrade needed to be made I understand, and it is certainly cheaper than the alternative. I just don't think it is as great for the program as U is going to attempt to spin it.

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              • Friday's game @ Colgate is scheduled for 7:30.
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                • Originally posted by CMcGarvey View Post
                  The Union news is interesting. For one thing, it clearly forces RPIs hand as far as their own renovations go. It is a chance for Dr Bowers and Schmidt to flex their commitment to hockey and counter Union's move. Can I play devil's advocate? I don't think this is as great of a move for their hockey as it seems. Almost no college hockey teams play off campus, I think there is a reason for that. It is not football and basketball, students are generally not traveling to get to a college hockey game. Also, part of what makes college hockey rinks cool is that many are so personalized, and when you are a renter in a space it will never truly be yours. Look at Lynah, Agganis, Alfond. If Messa was architecturally unsound and an upgrade needed to be made I understand, and it is certainly cheaper than the alternative. I just don't think it is as great for the program as U is going to attempt to spin it.
                  Whatever RPI decides to do or not do with their facility to keep up with the Joneses, at least it does not appear that it will include being a front, a lure or a draw for a gambling operation. Not even a two hour diversion for gamblers wanting a break from the machines and tables.

                  A supposedly prestigious university getting themselves involved in this endeavor with that industry just plain looks and smells bad and dirty.

                  Does anyone know if the sports rooms at casinos presently take college hockey??? If so, eventually Schenectady fans will be able stop by the room before the game to lay their action down. They will probably also be able to scoot to the room between periods to lay down action on those game in progress bets with the odds adjusted depending on how the game is going thus far!!! When and if that day comes, will Union get a cut of the action on their games???

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                  • We’ll probably soon see bids to steal the ECAC’s from Lake Placid, and NCAA regional bids. If people don’t like coming to Albany, wait until they see Schenectady!
                    Uncle Mickey: July 23, 1950-July 22, 2003

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                    • Originally posted by jericho View Post
                      We’ll probably soon see bids to steal the ECAC’s from Lake Placid, and NCAA regional bids. If people don’t like coming to Albany, wait until they see Schenectady!
                      Tall order to get much of anything there with only 3,600 seats unless someone really gets greased!!! May be barely big enough for those traveling multi performer shows of still touring 70's and 80's disco acts!!!

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                      • Originally posted by tony/troy View Post

                        Tall order to get much of anything there with only 3,600 seats unless someone really gets greased!!! May be barely big enough for those traveling multi performer shows of still touring 70's and 80's disco acts!!!
                        wont stop them from bidding, especially if the casino can give guaranteed money
                        Last edited by jericho; 02-27-2024, 06:07 AM.
                        Uncle Mickey: July 23, 1950-July 22, 2003

                        WRPI, 91.5 FM...usually color commentary.

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                        • Originally posted by CMcGarvey View Post
                          Can I play devil's advocate? I don't think this is as great of a move for their hockey as it seems. Almost no college hockey teams play off campus, I think there is a reason for that.
                          I agree that Messa/Achilles had some charm and that wood ceiling was cool, but the issue is that it might be one of the worst rinks around from a spectator comfort perspective, and Union enjoys decent attendance from non-students that will appreciate easier access to the rink. Almost any facility will be better, and it was unfeasible to try and renovate. The school will solve any distance issues for the students.
                          Last edited by DavidNardolillo; 02-27-2024, 02:47 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by tony/troy View Post

                            Whatever RPI decides to do or not do with their facility to keep up with the Joneses, at least it does not appear that it will include being a front, a lure or a draw for a gambling operation. Not even a two hour diversion for gamblers wanting a break from the machines and tables.

                            A supposedly prestigious university getting themselves involved in this endeavor with that industry just plain looks and smells bad and dirty.

                            Does anyone know if the sports rooms at casinos presently take college hockey??? If so, eventually Schenectady fans will be able stop by the room before the game to lay their action down. They will probably also be able to scoot to the room between periods to lay down action on those game in progress bets with the odds adjusted depending on how the game is going thus far!!! When and if that day comes, will Union get a cut of the action on their games???
                            I know for a fact that Rivers Casino does not take action on any college game (hockey, football, basketball, etc.) that involves any New York State schools. I tried betting on UAlbany football when they were in the NCAA tournament and that’s what they told me.

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                            • Originally posted by DavidNardolillo View Post

                              I agree that Messa/Achilles had some charm and that wood ceiling was cool, but the issue is that it might be one of the worst rinks around from a spectator comfort perspective, and Union enjoys decent attendance from non-students that will appreciate easier access to the rink. Almost any facility will be better, and it was unfeasible to try and renovate. The school will solve any distance issues for the students.
                              All of this is true. Also, the school gains cost certainty for the next 25 years regarding the hockey facility. Given today's perilous fiscal realities for most northeastern universities, this is a big deal. Union won't have to face any emergencies such as when a compressor goes down or there is a refrigerant leak, etc. They pay the monthly rent and the landlord deals with upkeep and maintenance.
                              ""Ralph is the Chuck Norris of this board. Ralph doesnt sleep he just waits." - fishcore12

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                              • Originally posted by vicious View Post

                                Colgate also has to be very happy with their first year head coach, heading into the last weekend of regular season in 3rd place. Dartmouth has also had a major turn around from last season.
                                Amazing what happens with a good coaching staff. Dartmouth has been very impressive all year. Our coaching staff just bangs out 20+ loss seasons like it’s good for them.
                                Last edited by Engineers; 02-28-2024, 01:24 PM.

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