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  • Originally posted by Ferrrao1994 View Post
    Maine is the best matchup we could of gotten in this quarterfinal, yes Alfond is a tough place to play, but we would have no shot if we were to play at BC, BU or Providence. I think Souza has found a new formula which has clearly worked since we've only given up 1 goal in 4 games. Maine has been a team reeling and hasn't been the same team since the start of the season (Umaine fans agree with this statement) and might be a little bit more comfortable because they've already clinched an NCAA tourney birth. But truthfully I think we matchup against Maine very well.

    Side note, my fiance is a UMaine alumni and she was in the pep band and went to the games but didn't really know much about the sport. I've shown her the ropes this year and explaining hockey to her and she loves it. I grew up in Newmarket and started going to UNH games in the early 2000's. We've made it an effort as a family to now go to a UNH vs. UMaine game once a year. We went to the White out the Whit game on that Saturday and we annihilated them. She was a great sport about it though and we have plans to watch the game on TV on Saturday. We have a baby on the way so I'll do my best to make sure he's a wildcat haha. Anyway lets get back on track..


    There's something to be said about a wounded tiger theory or should I say Wildcat. We have more desperation to win this game on Saturday and most certainly our backs are against the wall not just for the team but the coach as well. But truthfully, I think they turned a corner after the BC series, while they didn't win, you can say it was a moral victory being toe-to-toe with the most talented team in the country. You need hot goaltending and we have one of the best goaltenders in the country in Hellsten who is most definitely better than Maine's goalie. Having that series sweep back in February was a huge confidence builder, we can absolutely beat the Black Bears. Souza is going to have to look at film and make adjustments because if they play a little sloppy like they did last night, Maine is finishing those chances. I said this before the tourney started, the path to Boston is right there and we have a golden opportunity in front of us. Jumping up to 16th in the Pwr we are right on the bubble and going to Boston is essential if we want to make it to the NCAA tourney.

    I will say that no matter what happens, we can all agree that we have been so impressed this year with the jump this team has made. No one expected 20 wins. Yeah there were some bad losses in there, but I think now a culture has been established. The program has been dogwater for so long the team is learning how to win again. I promise that next year there wont be losses to West Point, or Merrimack *Puke* Really excited with the direction this program is going and the future is bright. I saw that there was a point to meet up for a forum lunch and I think that is a fantastic idea. Or at the very least meet at future games. As always GOOOO CATS!!!!!!!
    I am not sure I agree. We did not give up a goal to UML who is a team that has clearly quit. They played well last night but overall they are a bad team. I would rather take my chance with BC (2 losses in a row and could have won both) or PC versus going to Maine who we embarrassed a month ago.

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    • Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post

      I don't think there's any question that being in the building is usually an advantage, JB. Having said that, from my viewing, I just didn't see many so-called Grade A chances generated by UML. Maybe part of it is that UNH does a nice job at blocking shots - I think I saw somewhere that UNH blocked 21 shots, and only 20 even made it through to Hellsten (and only 10 of those combined over the last two periods). I never ever really felt that Lowell had sufficient quality of player and opportunity to tie things up once Blaisdell scored. But that's just me. And if the UMaine players (or fans) want to think Hellsten was difference, hey, they should go with that.

      I do think some of the comments on the UMaine thread during last night's game were tinged with a little trepidation and optimistic hoping that Lowell would deal UNH another "UNH moment". This may be a rare occasion when UMaine-iacs are actually a little concerned about postseason UNH. I mean, let's face it, as good as I think Barr has been (as an assistant elsewhere, and as an HC so far at UMaine), he has yet to show the UMaine-iacs his postseason best as an HC. He may do that this weekend, and wax Souza's guys (say, for example) 7-2, and the ghosts of Walshy and TIMMAY will romp over MS7 doing a poor man's imitation of Dick Umile. The "business as usual" scenario. OR ...

      ... maybe Barr can't channel his inner Walshy, and his players are a generation younger, with little working knowledge of how this match-up is "supposed" to turn out? And maybe, after 8 years of unabated mediocrity, MS7 has finally tapped into the winning formula, and can transform the long-standing pro-UMaine arc to this rivalry?? I mean, if Souza were to be renewed after this season, the recruiting gets a lot easier if he can actually point to something that even approaches a coaching accomplishment??? The "flip the script" scenario.

      UMaine has been in the catbird's seat in the UMaine/UNH "Border Battle" (or whatever the UNH PR department wants to try to call it) since the day Shawn Walsh first arrived in the Downeast. There is nothing - NOTHING - UMaine fans would want less than to see a UNH team come up to Orono in the HEA quarters, and deprive them of a trip to Boston. It's all going to be out there and on the line Saturday night. A chance for both HC's to set the tone for the future of the rivalry ... and besides one quickly-avenged night in Boston in March 2002, it's been a mostly one way "rivalry" if we're being fair. Barr is trying to preserve/extend that edge ... which is why Souza HAS to win this one. Stating the obvious, he may never get another chance.

      If UMaine wins, good for them. They are the better team over the course of the season. See PWR, HEA 3rd place, etc.

      That would not make me angry. What would really torque me would be an MS7 extension after a UMaine win.

      Can't wait ... this weekend (and aftermath) could be spectacular on these boards. Bring me some Wild West USCHO!!!
      The NESN broadcast must have showed Saturday's game as UML had many more chances than UNH. Jakob has saves that we all looked at each other and asked how did he make it. They forced the play and if not for a fortunate bounce off of 18's stick this game goes to OT.

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      • There is no team - NO TEAM - I'd rather see UNH facing, and no venue I would rather see them playing in than at Alfond Arena in mid-March. I mean ... you're a 6th place HEA team playing for a trip to Boston, and a shot at qualifying for the NCAA's. Who did anyone think we were gonna be facing with those circumstances in place?? UNH already got the rub o' the green with three straight games against UML to finish the regular season, and two of those games were home games. Was it gonna be Merrimack or UVM at The Whitt with Boston on the line??? At some point, if you're a mid-table team, you're gonna actually have to beat someone of substance (and do it in their barn) to earn a reward(s) like the one(s) that may be on the line in Saturday night's tilt. So you gotta beat UMaine, in Alfond. Well, what's better than a chance to actually accomplish something big AND inflict a little pain onto your self-professed top rival????

        It feels like St. Patrick himself has decided to grace UNH with a sprinkle of good fortune a day early, with this opportunity falling into their lap. You don't turn around a mediocre program/career with a home RS sweep, and you certainly don't turn anything around with three straight wins over a last place team, no matter what silly gravitas you attempt to bestow on the 3rd game. Nope. What works best is you get on a bus, you travel three hours to the Downeast, you walk into the belly of the beast in March, and you leave with the golden ticket(s) to Boston (and maybe a Regional site TBD). Now THAT would be a super fun bus ride home, no?!?

        I've said it before, and I'll say it again ... never has a UNH head coach done so little, for so long, to deserve such a chance to re-set whatever the state of the UMaine-UNH "rivalry" currently stands at.

        This is no time for "moral victory" like 0-1 at BC. Barr has already blown past you in three short years, and he is not gonna stop improving his program, not unless YOU - UNH/Coach Souza - do something to slow him down.

        It is absolutely SO very simple, you've been gifted an amazing opportunity. Now just got out and take it.
        Sworn Enemy of the Perpetually Offended
        Montreal Expos Forever ...

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        • Originally posted by Snively65 View Post

          Great answer! Nicely played, groove. :-)

          Mostly I am just trying to revive some of the fan hostilities like in the good old days for our two teams.
          Cant you just see groovy in his mothers basement watching porn and posting videos on Tick Tack of maniacs going crazy in the Alfond.
          UNH Hockey: You can check out any time you like but you can never leave!

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          • Wow Chuck 2:38 am you write that post? I thought I was a night owl Yeah, this is a huge opportunity for UNH hockey. Speaks volumes to potential recruits. Lose the game
            and gee so what if UNH made it to the qtrs; they have done that before in recent years (well, 2021 beating Maine 7-1 up there with no fans as I recall?). But to make the
            Garden...oh to make the Garden..and have a shot at getting an at large bid would be colossal! Beyond colossal..

            Not to put the cart before the horse but regardless of W or L Saturday, UNH is going to be able to point to a few things:

            *Best showing in 10 years staying consistently in the top 20 all season long
            *Having the best home record since 2007/2008

            CHC said it at the beginning of the season : "No matter how UNH does they are going to do it with the best line up in years" which, has been
            true. Some hiccups sure. Like that road record (not gonna go there right now) and, a few other sundry things like a weak PP (talked that to death right?) and those
            games we shoulda won (harsh lessons learned).

            They can win this game; if they get out of their heads, quiet the crowd EARLY and stay out of the box as much as possible. What a statement it will make for MS7 to beat
            Ben Barr and thwart his chance for HE glory to move on to the sacred place on Causeway Street!! UVM last year, UNH this year...

            Gotta bring the game that swept Maine in February...the game at BU (despite the loss still think it was one of UNH's best of the season)...

            Not going to talk about the 'if they lose' stuff right now. Let's play the game! Go 'Cats!!! Show up big!! HR already has Gahden seats...don't let her down now...
            Last edited by HockeyRef; 03-15-2024, 07:51 AM.
            I'm just here for the hockey...

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            • If there is film to watch, watch the game not too long ago where Northeastern went up there and won 4-0.

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              • Originally posted by HockeyRef View Post
                Wow Chuck 2:38 am you write that post? I thought I was a night owl
                Tough winter at the WIS Estate, 'Ref. Family health issues, a death in the (extended) family, and having to work through all the fallout, has put us on a weird schedule. Hoping things normalize by Memorial Day.

                But will absolutely find a way to jam in a trip to Boston next weekend if UNH passes the big test in Orono tomorrow. Big sports weekend coming up, with DRW needing badly to break out of a huge tailspin, and with Wolverhampton (UK) hosting an FA Cup quarterfinal with a trip to Wembley on the line. Need at least one of these three to break my way and buoy my spirits. But if nothing else, Winter officially ends this time next week! :-)
                Sworn Enemy of the Perpetually Offended
                Montreal Expos Forever ...

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                • Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post

                  Tough winter at the WIS Estate, 'Ref. Family health issues, a death in the (extended) family, and having to work through all the fallout, has put us on a weird schedule. Hoping things normalize by Memorial Day.

                  But will absolutely find a way to jam in a trip to Boston next weekend if UNH passes the big test in Orono tomorrow. Big sports weekend coming up, with DRW needing badly to break out of a huge tailspin, and with Wolverhampton (UK) hosting an FA Cup quarterfinal with a trip to Wembley on the line. Need at least one of these three to break my way and buoy my spirits. But if nothing else, Winter officially ends this time next week! :-)
                  So sorry to hear Chuck...hoping for the best outcome for your family and condolences in your recent loss...

                  AND hope to see you at the Gahden!!!!
                  I'm just here for the hockey...

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                  • Originally posted by norbert View Post

                    I am not sure I agree. We did not give up a goal to UML who is a team that has clearly quit. They played well last night but overall they are a bad team. I would rather take my chance with BC (2 losses in a row and could have won both) or PC versus going to Maine who we embarrassed a month ago.
                    We always have a chance against PC. See 2014-2015.........
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                    • Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post
                      There is no team - NO TEAM - I'd rather see UNH facing, and no venue I would rather see them playing in than at Alfond Arena in mid-March. I mean ... you're a 6th place HEA team playing for a trip to Boston, and a shot at qualifying for the NCAA's.
                      ...
                      At some point, if you're a mid-table team, you're gonna actually have to beat someone of substance (and do it in their barn) to earn a reward(s) ... So you gotta beat UMaine, in Alfond. Well, what's better than a chance to actually accomplish something big AND inflict a little pain onto your self-professed top rival????
                      I really couldn't agree more. GO EARN IT.

                      Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post
                      ... never has a UNH head coach done so little, for so long, ...
                      Understatement!

                      For a little context.

                      This year is the 100th since the start of UNH hockey first team January 1925, but only the 97th season as like most teams they skipped 3 seasons 1943-1946. Before 1955-56 never played more than 14 games in a season with 42-43 being the low water mark at 2. Many of those years were single digit games played on an outdoor "natural" surface

                      UNH has had 14 coaches in those 97 seasons

                      6 have career records below .500

                      Of those 6 - Souza, most seasons at 6 (and that discounts the horrible "transition plan"), most games coached 197 (by 86)
                      "Now Progress Takes Away What Forever Took To Find" Dave Matthews Band, The Dreaming Tree

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                      • Originally posted by e.cat View Post
                        Cant you just see groovy in his mothers basement watching porn and posting videos on Tick Tack of maniacs going crazy in the Alfond.
                        I would have a hard time with that visualization of any Maine-iac, e.cat. :-)

                        What I find most comical is that here we get nearly incoherent short jabs from gooverider, but in return the Maine-iacs get eloquent and impeccably written, albeit long-winded, treatises from Chuck on their thread. :-)
                        Last edited by Snively65; 03-15-2024, 12:31 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by chuck murray View Post
                          there is no team - no team - i'd rather see unh facing, and no venue i would rather see them playing in than at alfond arena in mid-march. I mean ... You're a 6th place hea team playing for a trip to boston, and a shot at qualifying for the ncaa's. Who did anyone think we were gonna be facing with those circumstances in place?? Unh already got the rub o' the green with three straight games against uml to finish the regular season, and two of those games were home games. Was it gonna be merrimack or uvm at the whitt with boston on the line??? At some point, if you're a mid-table team, you're gonna actually have to beat someone of substance (and do it in their barn) to earn a reward(s) like the one(s) that may be on the line in saturday night's tilt. So you gotta beat umaine, in alfond. Well, what's better than a chance to actually accomplish something big and inflict a little pain onto your self-professed top rival????

                          It feels like st. Patrick himself has decided to grace unh with a sprinkle of good fortune a day early, with this opportunity falling into their lap. You don't turn around a mediocre program/career with a home rs sweep, and you certainly don't turn anything around with three straight wins over a last place team, no matter what silly gravitas you attempt to bestow on the 3rd game. Nope. What works best is you get on a bus, you travel three hours to the downeast, you walk into the belly of the beast in march, and you leave with the golden ticket(s) to boston (and maybe a regional site tbd). Now that would be a super fun bus ride home, no?!?

                          I've said it before, and i'll say it again ... Never has a unh head coach done so little, for so long, to deserve such a chance to re-set whatever the state of the umaine-unh "rivalry" currently stands at.

                          This is no time for "moral victory" like 0-1 at bc. Barr has already blown past you in three short years, and he is not gonna stop improving his program, not unless you - unh/coach souza - do something to slow him down.

                          It is absolutely so very simple, you've been gifted an amazing opportunity. Now just got out and take it.
                          chuck fire me up!!!! I'm ready to run through a brick wall!!!!!!!

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                          • Originally posted by UNHSince1969 View Post

                            We always have a chance against PC. See 2014-2015.........
                            I agree. As much as MS7 benefited (contract extension?) by getting his team to 20 wins with the MBPBEGAM game, I think that we would have had a better chance for reaching the Garden by placing fifth and facing Proviced at Schneider and letting the Minutemen try again in Orono. I think that a trip to the Garden is more important than stickin’ it to the Black Bears in Orono.

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                            • Originally posted by JB View Post

                              I really couldn't agree more. GO EARN IT.



                              Understatement!

                              For a little context.

                              This year is the 100th since the start of UNH hockey first team January 1925, but only the 97th season as like most teams they skipped 3 seasons 1943-1946. Before 1955-56 never played more than 14 games in a season with 42-43 being the low water mark at 2. Many of those years were single digit games played on an outdoor "natural" surface

                              UNH has had 14 coaches in those 97 seasons

                              6 have career records below .500

                              Of those 6 - Souza, most seasons at 6 (and that discounts the horrible "transition plan"), most games coached 197 (by 86)
                              Nice research. So how about beginning your string when the team moved inside to Snively Arena in 1965 (so the past 60 seasons)?

                              Last edited by Snively65; 03-15-2024, 12:06 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by e.cat View Post
                                Cant you just see groovy in his mothers basement watching porn and posting videos on Tick Tack of maniacs going crazy in the Alfond.
                                Oh e.mildcat you figured me out..I was trying to find tik tok videos as well of "UNH Hockey National championship" but my results came back blank..can you help me Mildcat fan #1? :-)

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