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  • Originally posted by RPI67 View Post

    Right. Last nights score makes Union look like BC,PC,Maine.
    So far this season, these guys panic whenever they are pushed. And any opponent that has film, can see it.
    Our defensive coverage in our own zone is non existent.
    I don't know if we have a defenseman who can stay calm in those situations.
    We need a reset, and soon.
    Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
    Benjamin Franklin
    The harder I practice, the luckier I get.
    Gary Player

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    • Originally posted by engineerhockeyfan View Post

      So far this season, these guys panic whenever they are pushed. And any opponent that has film, can see it.
      Our defensive coverage in our own zone is non existent.
      I don't know if we have a defenseman who can stay calm in those situations.
      We need a reset, and soon.
      I guess the week off after they had the **** kicked outta them to reset didn’t do much. Cherapack should file a lawsuit for defensive malpractice.

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      • Originally posted by sezenack View Post
        I was encouraged by our offensive showing for sure. Defense and goaltending needs to be better, but you've all already said that. I assume we'll have Cherepak in net. I don't think either coach is happy with the defense from last night, so tonight will be low scoring I bet
        Hauge figured it out but it's concerning that our HC didn't.
        "Rick not want to be know as tough guy, Rick want to be known as team guy" Rick "Mongo" Bennett

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        • Originally posted by engineerhockeyfan View Post

          So far this season, these guys panic whenever they are pushed. And any opponent that has film, can see it.
          Our defensive coverage in our own zone is non existent.
          I don't know if we have a defenseman who can stay calm in those situations.
          We need a reset, and soon.
          Those are the two issues that jumped out at me. Union was extremely aggressive and showed no respect for our puck handlers. It was most apparent during the power plays, but it was true even up as well. While we sat back and passively tried to keep them on the outside while (poorly) cutting off passing lanes, their guys came straight after whichever of our players had the puck at the point or along the sidewalls. They had no fear that we'd make them pay. While we were waiving sticks to break up plays they were moving their feet and using their bodies.

          As for the defense, it was a combination of bad positioning, an inability (or worse, unwillingness) to clear the net front and can someone, anyone, please pick up a trailer. I was always taught that on odd man rushes the defenseman should try to force the puck carrier to a bad angle and/or cut off the passing lanes, but their primary job is to take out the non-puck carrying players since the goaltender has to stay on the puck carrier. Instead our defensemen too often stay on the puck carrier leaving the other attackers wide open - and our other guys coming back don't seem to man up and take the trailers. The result was three tap in goals. Frankly, we should be embarassed by how pathetically easily Union scored those goals.

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          • Originally posted by Waite21 View Post

            I didn't listen to the game. Was any reason given during the WRPI broadcast as to why Jake Kazanowsky was not available? From the recap available at RPIathletics, one would never guess that Justin McCormack was not the regular # 1 QB.
            I watched the Hobart video broadcast and their announcers had no clue our first string QB was not playing for the entire first period. We jumped off to a 14-0 lead and really could have changed the entire script with another score. Hobart was just able to stay close enough to rush the ball down our throats. Their offensive line out weighed us by a huge margin and on most plays had gained 6-8 yards before we were able to lay a hand on the ball carrier. But if they were forced to pass instead of being able to pass when they preferred, the end result might have been different. They are a good team but we should have been able to hold them off when we got the score back up to 21-10 and simply could not. Not sure what the reason is but we just simply can never beat them up on their field. After this loss at least we cannot be left to wonder about the narrow unfortunate loss to Ithaca keeping us from the NCAA tournament. We have only the Union game left and it will mean little to us and probably more to them to win.
            Take the shortest distance to the puck and arrive in ill humor

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            • Originally posted by DrDemento View Post

              I watched the Hobart video broadcast and their announcers had no clue our first string QB was not playing for the entire first period. We jumped off to a 14-0 lead and really could have changed the entire script with another score. Hobart was just able to stay close enough to rush the ball down our throats. Their offensive line out weighed us by a huge margin and on most plays had gained 6-8 yards before we were able to lay a hand on the ball carrier. But if they were forced to pass instead of being able to pass when they preferred, the end result might have been different. They are a good team but we should have been able to hold them off when we got the score back up to 21-10 and simply could not. Not sure what the reason is but we just simply can never beat them up on their field. After this loss at least we cannot be left to wonder about the narrow unfortunate loss to Ithaca keeping us from the NCAA tournament. We have only the Union game left and it will mean little to us and probably more to them to win.
              In defense of announcers, I have missed this as well, when the opposition started a different quarterback than what was listed. You focus on the name so much you miss there is a different number out there. Yesterday I didn't notice DeMatteo started instead of Kazanowsky for a few plays, they were near the end zone on the left while I was closer to the one on the right, so I didn't get good looks at the QB number with 15 and 19 not dissimilar enough when viewed at an angle. It is usually best when someone in the press box alerts everyone, but we are separated at Hobart and I couldn't hear people in the main part of the press box. Neither could the Hobart announcers.

              As to why Kazanowsky didn't play, I don't know. There was never an answer but the starting lineups were verified for the PA announcer prior to the game, for what that is worth. The only odd thing (for me) that I only remembered on the drive back to Troy was in the pre-game warmups. I noticed the QBs for RPI throwing the ball around and Kazanowsky was standing there but didn't appear to be participating much. I didn't look for long but I do remember seeing DeMatteo and McCormack warming up. Whether something happened then or not, I don't know, but that is something I don't look for much, that it struck me as odd at the time is strange.

              I felt the Hobart TD as time expired in the first half was critical. Had RPI gotten the stop then, a better chance for a win. It let Hobart go into the locker room on an up note. RPI got that back on the first drive of the second half, but then the Hobart offense took over the game once they got the ball again. The Hobart offense scored on 5 consecutive drives in a game each team only got 9 possessions. RPI's two possessions after their last TD went nowhere, the second was the botched punt, then by the time they got the ball again they were trailing by 10. To simplify, RPI's offense left the field up by 11, had two horrid possessions, then were on the field down by 10. That is quite a swing.


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              • After all this time, I am so used to the call of the games done by Kurt, usually anything else simply doesn't measure up. But I must give credit to the Hobart announcers as they called the game well and tried to be as unbiased as possible. No matter what happens next weekend, and of course I am hoping we can win one more, this has been another successful season. We have been part of the top tier of the Liberty League virtually every year and Ithaca, Hobart, Union and RPI are almost always within an eyelash of each other. Those games can be decided by one play or one drive or one penalty. Kurt is spot on, the final play of the first half on which Hobart scored was a pass play they attempted 4 or 5 consecutive times and finally complete it. I felt a penalty could have been called on each attempt. A couple times on us for pass interference and on the successful score on Hobart as the receiver seemed to push the defender off just before the ball arrived. But the calls could have gone either way and i do not think we should feel cheated. The football program should be congratulated not only for this season, but for almost every recent season for being in the mix for either the NCAA tournament or a local ECAC bowl game.
                Take the shortest distance to the puck and arrive in ill humor

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                • Originally posted by DrDemento View Post
                  After all this time, I am so used to the call of the games done by Kurt, usually anything else simply doesn't measure up. But I must give credit to the Hobart announcers as they called the game well and tried to be as unbiased as possible. No matter what happens next weekend, and of course I am hoping we can win one more, this has been another successful season. We have been part of the top tier of the Liberty League virtually every year and Ithaca, Hobart, Union and RPI are almost always within an eyelash of each other. Those games can be decided by one play or one drive or one penalty. Kurt is spot on, the final play of the first half on which Hobart scored was a pass play they attempted 4 or 5 consecutive times and finally complete it. I felt a penalty could have been called on each attempt. A couple times on us for pass interference and on the successful score on Hobart as the receiver seemed to push the defender off just before the ball arrived. But the calls could have gone either way and i do not think we should feel cheated. The football program should be congratulated not only for this season, but for almost every recent season for being in the mix for either the NCAA tournament or a local ECAC bowl game.
                  Yes, the Hobart announcer is very good. Beyond football, got familiar with him watching home webcasts of the defending D3 national champion Hobart hockey team. You do know who he likes and would prefer to win but it's never to the point of annoyance.

                  There may not be any post season for RPI football this year. The NCAA is obviously gone and as of close of business Friday they have not declared any intention to play in an ECAC Bowl. They only have to the noon Monday deadline to do so. Seems they would have done so by now if they had any intention of participating or are even being allowed to by the new regime. Playing in any ECAC Bowls, especially an away one, does cost money.

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                  • Originally posted by rpi82 View Post

                    Those are the two issues that jumped out at me. Union was extremely aggressive and showed no respect for our puck handlers. It was most apparent during the power plays, but it was true even up as well. While we sat back and passively tried to keep them on the outside while (poorly) cutting off passing lanes, their guys came straight after whichever of our players had the puck at the point or along the sidewalls. They had no fear that we'd make them pay. While we were waiving sticks to break up plays they were moving their feet and using their bodies.

                    As for the defense, it was a combination of bad positioning, an inability (or worse, unwillingness) to clear the net front and can someone, anyone, please pick up a trailer. I was always taught that on odd man rushes the defenseman should try to force the puck carrier to a bad angle and/or cut off the passing lanes, but their primary job is to take out the non-puck carrying players since the goaltender has to stay on the puck carrier. Instead our defensemen too often stay on the puck carrier leaving the other attackers wide open - and our other guys coming back don't seem to man up and take the trailers. The result was three tap in goals. Frankly, we should be embarassed by how pathetically easily Union scored those goals.
                    One of the local TV stations showed the Union goals on their highlights last night. On two of the goals the only RPI player even appearing on the screen was the goalie!!! Not exactly the all time most in depth analysis of ice hockey but, nonetheless, frightening and/or terrifying!!!

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                    • Originally posted by tony/troy View Post

                      One of the local TV stations showed the Union goals on their highlights last night. On two of the goals the only RPI player even appearing on the screen was the goalie!!! Not exactly the all time most in depth analysis of ice hockey but, nonetheless, frightening and/or terrifying!!!
                      The only thing more terrifying than watching the highlights on TV was watching the game in person. RPI82 was spot on with his analysis. There just was no fire amongst the players despite a crowd of over 3200 fans mostly dressed in black wanting to make some noise. Can’t see it getting any better with what is normally our toughest road trip of the ECAC season next weekend. Just hope that I’m wrong…

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                      • Originally posted by DrDemento View Post

                        Did not have the luxury to replay our 5 minute penalty as we were at a local pub watching the game. No one in the place was an RPi fan. Virtually no one was even a hockey fan. But absolutely no one who saw the call was able to figure out why anything at all was called, let a lone a 5 minute major. There was virtually no contact and definitely no attempt at contact to the head. If it was supposed to be a make up call - the added misconduct and disqualification from the game was far more than the Union player got for his penalty earlier. Which, btw, I thought might also be only a 2 minute penalty. Would not have mattered since we played those 5 minutes about as poorly as we could giving whatever momentum we had to Union.
                        You're not wrong Doc. Given the refs took at least 5 mins to look at it before making the horrible call tells you it was a stretch. If it takes two adults that long to decide, then its not a call. Just my opinion...
                        ""Ralph is the Chuck Norris of this board. Ralph doesnt sleep he just waits." - fishcore12

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                        • Originally posted by engineerhockeyfan View Post

                          So far this season, these guys panic whenever they are pushed. And any opponent that has film, can see it.
                          Our defensive coverage in our own zone is non existent.
                          I don't know if we have a defenseman who can stay calm in those situations.
                          We need a reset, and soon.
                          The d-zone play this weekend was nothing short of horrible. I don't pretend to know the reason, but I do know that sound team defense in any sport is made up largely of effort and attitude...which was nowhere to be found this past weekend.
                          ""Ralph is the Chuck Norris of this board. Ralph doesnt sleep he just waits." - fishcore12

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                          • I made the mistake of tuning into Smitty's weekly appearance on 104.5 the Team today. Once again, there was remarkably little discussion of the team's actual performance over the weekend...thanks to the host's ignorance of the sport. Smitty did mention the lack of checking and physicality on Saturday, despite it having been a point of emphasis.

                            Our crew will be making the north country trek this weekend as per usual. But with a team that is giving up 5 goals per game, I'll arrive with absolutely no expectations....
                            ""Ralph is the Chuck Norris of this board. Ralph doesnt sleep he just waits." - fishcore12

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                            • Originally posted by Wicked Slappaahs View Post
                              I made the mistake of tuning into Smitty's weekly appearance on 104.5 the Team today. Once again, there was remarkably little discussion of the team's actual performance over the weekend...thanks to the host's ignorance of the sport. Smitty did mention the lack of checking and physicality on Saturday, despite it having been a point of emphasis.

                              Our crew will be making the north country trek this weekend as per usual. But with a team that is giving up 5 goals per game, I'll arrive with absolutely no expectations....
                              I have absolutely no expectations with this coaching staff. The play to start the year has been terrible and honestly nobody should be surprised. I said it once before smith had one decent year only because they relied heavily on savory who played out of his mind. I understand why they fired appert but to replace him with this? Give me a break.

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                              • Originally posted by Engineers View Post

                                I have absolutely no expectations with this coaching staff. The play to start the year has been terrible and honestly nobody should be surprised. I said it once before smith had one decent year only because they relied heavily on savory who played out of his mind. I understand why they fired appert but to replace him with this? Give me a break.
                                I think Reilly was the best player on that team, and the defense in front of Savory was really good in general. He didn't have to make very many difficult saves the second half of the season. They also scored a good amount in the second half of the year.

                                That was a good team in general; I don't agree they were carried. After that, 2021-22 was as good as it could have been given all the players they lost.
                                Last year was disappointing for sure, and this year has been so far to start.

                                It's been 6 games though against a really tough schedule; there's a lot of hockey left to play. The story on this team is nowhere close to being written, and I wouldn't give up on them quite yet.
                                PS: It's worth noting that BC is now #1, PC is now #5 and Maine is now #13.

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